Chancellor George Osborne in Southampton to promote new pension reforms

Chancellor George Osborne in Southampton, in front a of banner about Liverpool.

Chancellor George Osborne in Southampton, in front a of banner about Liverpool.

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Hampshire Chronicle: Photograph of the Author by , Senior reporter

CHANCELLOR George Osborne is in Southampton today on the day radical new pension reforms were announced.

The Chancellor visited Carnival UK's headquarters in the city centre to brief staff on what the changes mean for them.

Under the proposals, people will be able to take cash out of pension pots in the future to cover the costs of care and other vital needs.

He told staff: "These are the biggest changes to pensions for 100 years.

"If you think about what Southampton looked like 100 years ago, it's a big change.

"I want to see more growth in other parts of the country, like here in Southampton.

"As a country we don't save as much as we should."

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12:53pm Mon 21 Jul 14

southy says...

And yesterday this government push though new sercuritys that will allow not just the police but also there private government sercurity G4 to be able to enter any household by any means with out a warrent. This is more in turn with Hilter Germany, it also allows them G4 that is to read every ones e-mails, listen in on phone calls, open your letters, it also give them the right to operate out side the UK in other countrys.
And yesterday this government push though new sercuritys that will allow not just the police but also there private government sercurity G4 to be able to enter any household by any means with out a warrent. This is more in turn with Hilter Germany, it also allows them G4 that is to read every ones e-mails, listen in on phone calls, open your letters, it also give them the right to operate out side the UK in other countrys. southy
  • Score: -10

1:30pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Outside of the Box says...

Lambert Lallana Lovren, and now Liners,,,,,,,Everyth
ing is going to Liverpool. Someone needs to have a word with the photo editor, Not very funny when considering Saints fans reaction to losing our best players to the Scousers.
Lambert Lallana Lovren, and now Liners,,,,,,,Everyth ing is going to Liverpool. Someone needs to have a word with the photo editor, Not very funny when considering Saints fans reaction to losing our best players to the Scousers. Outside of the Box
  • Score: 3

2:02pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Torchie1 says...

southy wrote:
And yesterday this government push though new sercuritys that will allow not just the police but also there private government sercurity G4 to be able to enter any household by any means with out a warrent. This is more in turn with Hilter Germany, it also allows them G4 that is to read every ones e-mails, listen in on phone calls, open your letters, it also give them the right to operate out side the UK in other countrys.
And the link to pensions is what precisely? I suppose you could have likened it to Stalin's Russia but their steam driven economy hasn't seen the introduction of computers yet.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: And yesterday this government push though new sercuritys that will allow not just the police but also there private government sercurity G4 to be able to enter any household by any means with out a warrent. This is more in turn with Hilter Germany, it also allows them G4 that is to read every ones e-mails, listen in on phone calls, open your letters, it also give them the right to operate out side the UK in other countrys.[/p][/quote]And the link to pensions is what precisely? I suppose you could have likened it to Stalin's Russia but their steam driven economy hasn't seen the introduction of computers yet. Torchie1
  • Score: 0

2:17pm Mon 21 Jul 14

one in the crowd says...

Nice to see Liverpool mentioned in the photograph and caption.
Nice to see Liverpool mentioned in the photograph and caption. one in the crowd
  • Score: 5

2:34pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Sholingista says...

We have to help Liverpool, remember, they are victimised constantly and can't help themselves in anyway unless its through handouts.

Tories are scum. Liverpool are scum. Made for each other.
We have to help Liverpool, remember, they are victimised constantly and can't help themselves in anyway unless its through handouts. Tories are scum. Liverpool are scum. Made for each other. Sholingista
  • Score: -5

2:35pm Mon 21 Jul 14

IronLady2010 says...

southy wrote:
And yesterday this government push though new sercuritys that will allow not just the police but also there private government sercurity G4 to be able to enter any household by any means with out a warrent. This is more in turn with Hilter Germany, it also allows them G4 that is to read every ones e-mails, listen in on phone calls, open your letters, it also give them the right to operate out side the UK in other countrys.
I don't see why you're worried, do you have something to hide?

They can read my emails or do whatever, they won't find anything criminal.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: And yesterday this government push though new sercuritys that will allow not just the police but also there private government sercurity G4 to be able to enter any household by any means with out a warrent. This is more in turn with Hilter Germany, it also allows them G4 that is to read every ones e-mails, listen in on phone calls, open your letters, it also give them the right to operate out side the UK in other countrys.[/p][/quote]I don't see why you're worried, do you have something to hide? They can read my emails or do whatever, they won't find anything criminal. IronLady2010
  • Score: 0

2:39pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Lone Ranger. says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
And yesterday this government push though new sercuritys that will allow not just the police but also there private government sercurity G4 to be able to enter any household by any means with out a warrent. This is more in turn with Hilter Germany, it also allows them G4 that is to read every ones e-mails, listen in on phone calls, open your letters, it also give them the right to operate out side the UK in other countrys.
I don't see why you're worried, do you have something to hide?

They can read my emails or do whatever, they won't find anything criminal.
I dont know ....... i think that some of your posts are criminal ...!!
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: And yesterday this government push though new sercuritys that will allow not just the police but also there private government sercurity G4 to be able to enter any household by any means with out a warrent. This is more in turn with Hilter Germany, it also allows them G4 that is to read every ones e-mails, listen in on phone calls, open your letters, it also give them the right to operate out side the UK in other countrys.[/p][/quote]I don't see why you're worried, do you have something to hide? They can read my emails or do whatever, they won't find anything criminal.[/p][/quote]I dont know ....... i think that some of your posts are criminal ...!! Lone Ranger.
  • Score: 4

2:48pm Mon 21 Jul 14

IronLady2010 says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
And yesterday this government push though new sercuritys that will allow not just the police but also there private government sercurity G4 to be able to enter any household by any means with out a warrent. This is more in turn with Hilter Germany, it also allows them G4 that is to read every ones e-mails, listen in on phone calls, open your letters, it also give them the right to operate out side the UK in other countrys.
I don't see why you're worried, do you have something to hide?

They can read my emails or do whatever, they won't find anything criminal.
I dont know ....... i think that some of your posts are criminal ...!!
hahaha, I had to give you a thumbs up for that one :-)
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: And yesterday this government push though new sercuritys that will allow not just the police but also there private government sercurity G4 to be able to enter any household by any means with out a warrent. This is more in turn with Hilter Germany, it also allows them G4 that is to read every ones e-mails, listen in on phone calls, open your letters, it also give them the right to operate out side the UK in other countrys.[/p][/quote]I don't see why you're worried, do you have something to hide? They can read my emails or do whatever, they won't find anything criminal.[/p][/quote]I dont know ....... i think that some of your posts are criminal ...!![/p][/quote]hahaha, I had to give you a thumbs up for that one :-) IronLady2010
  • Score: 1

2:58pm Mon 21 Jul 14

WalkingOnAWire says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
And yesterday this government push though new sercuritys that will allow not just the police but also there private government sercurity G4 to be able to enter any household by any means with out a warrent. This is more in turn with Hilter Germany, it also allows them G4 that is to read every ones e-mails, listen in on phone calls, open your letters, it also give them the right to operate out side the UK in other countrys.
I don't see why you're worried, do you have something to hide?

They can read my emails or do whatever, they won't find anything criminal.
That's a typically simplistic response from someone who has not thought the issue through properly. It's also the argument that totalitarian governments down the ages have always trotted out as a justification for increased surveillance. It's the thin end of a dangerous wedge. If you haven't already done so, I suggest you read Orwell's 1984. It's not being dramatic to say that much of what he wrote as a dystopian warning is now hard reality in the 21st century.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: And yesterday this government push though new sercuritys that will allow not just the police but also there private government sercurity G4 to be able to enter any household by any means with out a warrent. This is more in turn with Hilter Germany, it also allows them G4 that is to read every ones e-mails, listen in on phone calls, open your letters, it also give them the right to operate out side the UK in other countrys.[/p][/quote]I don't see why you're worried, do you have something to hide? They can read my emails or do whatever, they won't find anything criminal.[/p][/quote]That's a typically simplistic response from someone who has not thought the issue through properly. It's also the argument that totalitarian governments down the ages have always trotted out as a justification for increased surveillance. It's the thin end of a dangerous wedge. If you haven't already done so, I suggest you read Orwell's 1984. It's not being dramatic to say that much of what he wrote as a dystopian warning is now hard reality in the 21st century. WalkingOnAWire
  • Score: 8

3:08pm Mon 21 Jul 14

miltonarcher says...

southy wrote:
And yesterday this government push though new sercuritys that will allow not just the police but also there private government sercurity G4 to be able to enter any household by any means with out a warrent. This is more in turn with Hilter Germany, it also allows them G4 that is to read every ones e-mails, listen in on phone calls, open your letters, it also give them the right to operate out side the UK in other countrys.
You have reached a new low, which considering the drivel you post on here is quite something. Comparing this country with Nazi Germany is an insult to those who fought and died for this country in two World Wars. You are without doubt a very sad misguided, illiterate uniformed and ignorant individual who struggles through life with a massive chip on his shoulder.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: And yesterday this government push though new sercuritys that will allow not just the police but also there private government sercurity G4 to be able to enter any household by any means with out a warrent. This is more in turn with Hilter Germany, it also allows them G4 that is to read every ones e-mails, listen in on phone calls, open your letters, it also give them the right to operate out side the UK in other countrys.[/p][/quote]You have reached a new low, which considering the drivel you post on here is quite something. Comparing this country with Nazi Germany is an insult to those who fought and died for this country in two World Wars. You are without doubt a very sad misguided, illiterate uniformed and ignorant individual who struggles through life with a massive chip on his shoulder. miltonarcher
  • Score: 5

4:08pm Mon 21 Jul 14

southy says...

Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
And yesterday this government push though new sercuritys that will allow not just the police but also there private government sercurity G4 to be able to enter any household by any means with out a warrent. This is more in turn with Hilter Germany, it also allows them G4 that is to read every ones e-mails, listen in on phone calls, open your letters, it also give them the right to operate out side the UK in other countrys.
And the link to pensions is what precisely? I suppose you could have likened it to Stalin's Russia but their steam driven economy hasn't seen the introduction of computers yet.
When Russia collapse back in the early 90's, and westerns started to have a look around on there technology, it was found that the Russian rockets Engines and there computors where decades ahead on the rest of the world there engine designs are now being used by Nasa, ideas how to run computors now incorporated in our systems.
As for pensions it as a lot to do with it, every thing is telling us that we are heading into Hitler Germany system and your dystopian society is just round the corner.
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: And yesterday this government push though new sercuritys that will allow not just the police but also there private government sercurity G4 to be able to enter any household by any means with out a warrent. This is more in turn with Hilter Germany, it also allows them G4 that is to read every ones e-mails, listen in on phone calls, open your letters, it also give them the right to operate out side the UK in other countrys.[/p][/quote]And the link to pensions is what precisely? I suppose you could have likened it to Stalin's Russia but their steam driven economy hasn't seen the introduction of computers yet.[/p][/quote]When Russia collapse back in the early 90's, and westerns started to have a look around on there technology, it was found that the Russian rockets Engines and there computors where decades ahead on the rest of the world there engine designs are now being used by Nasa, ideas how to run computors now incorporated in our systems. As for pensions it as a lot to do with it, every thing is telling us that we are heading into Hitler Germany system and your dystopian society is just round the corner. southy
  • Score: -6

4:10pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Beer Monster says...

Annuity rates have been in decline for decades, and in order to make the system fairer and more accessible for those with pension pots saved up, some more reforms were required (we had a load of them 10 years ago). I'm glad that pensioners will be offered free independent advice, because I forsee a surge in spam (e)mail and calls trying to sell dodgy investment products in the near future.
Annuity rates have been in decline for decades, and in order to make the system fairer and more accessible for those with pension pots saved up, some more reforms were required (we had a load of them 10 years ago). I'm glad that pensioners will be offered free independent advice, because I forsee a surge in spam (e)mail and calls trying to sell dodgy investment products in the near future. Beer Monster
  • Score: 2

4:37pm Mon 21 Jul 14

miltonarcher says...

southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
And yesterday this government push though new sercuritys that will allow not just the police but also there private government sercurity G4 to be able to enter any household by any means with out a warrent. This is more in turn with Hilter Germany, it also allows them G4 that is to read every ones e-mails, listen in on phone calls, open your letters, it also give them the right to operate out side the UK in other countrys.
And the link to pensions is what precisely? I suppose you could have likened it to Stalin's Russia but their steam driven economy hasn't seen the introduction of computers yet.
When Russia collapse back in the early 90's, and westerns started to have a look around on there technology, it was found that the Russian rockets Engines and there computors where decades ahead on the rest of the world there engine designs are now being used by Nasa, ideas how to run computors now incorporated in our systems.
As for pensions it as a lot to do with it, every thing is telling us that we are heading into Hitler Germany system and your dystopian society is just round the corner.
It was the Soviet Union that collapsed you Muppet, even though you are posting rubbish at least try and get your facts right. I refer you to my earlier post, I think my description of you was spot on.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: And yesterday this government push though new sercuritys that will allow not just the police but also there private government sercurity G4 to be able to enter any household by any means with out a warrent. This is more in turn with Hilter Germany, it also allows them G4 that is to read every ones e-mails, listen in on phone calls, open your letters, it also give them the right to operate out side the UK in other countrys.[/p][/quote]And the link to pensions is what precisely? I suppose you could have likened it to Stalin's Russia but their steam driven economy hasn't seen the introduction of computers yet.[/p][/quote]When Russia collapse back in the early 90's, and westerns started to have a look around on there technology, it was found that the Russian rockets Engines and there computors where decades ahead on the rest of the world there engine designs are now being used by Nasa, ideas how to run computors now incorporated in our systems. As for pensions it as a lot to do with it, every thing is telling us that we are heading into Hitler Germany system and your dystopian society is just round the corner.[/p][/quote]It was the Soviet Union that collapsed you Muppet, even though you are posting rubbish at least try and get your facts right. I refer you to my earlier post, I think my description of you was spot on. miltonarcher
  • Score: 10

4:58pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Torchie1 says...

southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
And yesterday this government push though new sercuritys that will allow not just the police but also there private government sercurity G4 to be able to enter any household by any means with out a warrent. This is more in turn with Hilter Germany, it also allows them G4 that is to read every ones e-mails, listen in on phone calls, open your letters, it also give them the right to operate out side the UK in other countrys.
And the link to pensions is what precisely? I suppose you could have likened it to Stalin's Russia but their steam driven economy hasn't seen the introduction of computers yet.
When Russia collapse back in the early 90's, and westerns started to have a look around on there technology, it was found that the Russian rockets Engines and there computors where decades ahead on the rest of the world there engine designs are now being used by Nasa, ideas how to run computors now incorporated in our systems.
As for pensions it as a lot to do with it, every thing is telling us that we are heading into Hitler Germany system and your dystopian society is just round the corner.
I used to think you made it up as you went along but I don't think you're that clever. What G4 would make of your rubbish is anyone's guess but they may pursue your emails in the belief that you are using a code based loosely on English.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: And yesterday this government push though new sercuritys that will allow not just the police but also there private government sercurity G4 to be able to enter any household by any means with out a warrent. This is more in turn with Hilter Germany, it also allows them G4 that is to read every ones e-mails, listen in on phone calls, open your letters, it also give them the right to operate out side the UK in other countrys.[/p][/quote]And the link to pensions is what precisely? I suppose you could have likened it to Stalin's Russia but their steam driven economy hasn't seen the introduction of computers yet.[/p][/quote]When Russia collapse back in the early 90's, and westerns started to have a look around on there technology, it was found that the Russian rockets Engines and there computors where decades ahead on the rest of the world there engine designs are now being used by Nasa, ideas how to run computors now incorporated in our systems. As for pensions it as a lot to do with it, every thing is telling us that we are heading into Hitler Germany system and your dystopian society is just round the corner.[/p][/quote]I used to think you made it up as you went along but I don't think you're that clever. What G4 would make of your rubbish is anyone's guess but they may pursue your emails in the belief that you are using a code based loosely on English. Torchie1
  • Score: 1

5:07pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Tom Redpath says...

What are our current financial advisers then ? Only a Tory could make a gaffe like that , maybe the Southampton seats aren't so marginal. Cameron praised Liverpool's container port & said there'd be no need to come here. Taking us for granted & pitching for the Liverpool could backfire as spectacularly as Gerry Malone's Election petition.
What are our current financial advisers then ? Only a Tory could make a gaffe like that , maybe the Southampton seats aren't so marginal. Cameron praised Liverpool's container port & said there'd be no need to come here. Taking us for granted & pitching for the Liverpool could backfire as spectacularly as Gerry Malone's Election petition. Tom Redpath
  • Score: 3

7:15pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Linesman says...

Tom Redpath wrote:
What are our current financial advisers then ? Only a Tory could make a gaffe like that , maybe the Southampton seats aren't so marginal. Cameron praised Liverpool's container port & said there'd be no need to come here. Taking us for granted & pitching for the Liverpool could backfire as spectacularly as Gerry Malone's Election petition.
I am surprised that loosehead has not made a comment, explaining how, by giving his talk in front of an advert for Liverpool, George Osborne was actually giving Southampton a boost.
[quote][p][bold]Tom Redpath[/bold] wrote: What are our current financial advisers then ? Only a Tory could make a gaffe like that , maybe the Southampton seats aren't so marginal. Cameron praised Liverpool's container port & said there'd be no need to come here. Taking us for granted & pitching for the Liverpool could backfire as spectacularly as Gerry Malone's Election petition.[/p][/quote]I am surprised that loosehead has not made a comment, explaining how, by giving his talk in front of an advert for Liverpool, George Osborne was actually giving Southampton a boost. Linesman
  • Score: 0

7:30pm Mon 21 Jul 14

03alpe01 says...

Going to Southampton and standing in front of a board promoting cruises from Liverpool. Priceless.
Going to Southampton and standing in front of a board promoting cruises from Liverpool. Priceless. 03alpe01
  • Score: 5

7:46pm Mon 21 Jul 14

one in the crowd says...

03alpe01 wrote:
Going to Southampton and standing in front of a board promoting cruises from Liverpool. Priceless.
A wonderful endorsement for cruising from Liverpool.
[quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: Going to Southampton and standing in front of a board promoting cruises from Liverpool. Priceless.[/p][/quote]A wonderful endorsement for cruising from Liverpool. one in the crowd
  • Score: 6

7:56pm Mon 21 Jul 14

southy says...

Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
And yesterday this government push though new sercuritys that will allow not just the police but also there private government sercurity G4 to be able to enter any household by any means with out a warrent. This is more in turn with Hilter Germany, it also allows them G4 that is to read every ones e-mails, listen in on phone calls, open your letters, it also give them the right to operate out side the UK in other countrys.
And the link to pensions is what precisely? I suppose you could have likened it to Stalin's Russia but their steam driven economy hasn't seen the introduction of computers yet.
When Russia collapse back in the early 90's, and westerns started to have a look around on there technology, it was found that the Russian rockets Engines and there computors where decades ahead on the rest of the world there engine designs are now being used by Nasa, ideas how to run computors now incorporated in our systems.
As for pensions it as a lot to do with it, every thing is telling us that we are heading into Hitler Germany system and your dystopian society is just round the corner.
I used to think you made it up as you went along but I don't think you're that clever. What G4 would make of your rubbish is anyone's guess but they may pursue your emails in the belief that you are using a code based loosely on English.
Difference is your sleep walking right into it and allowing to happen, I can see it coming. You do realise that G4 and Blackwater are in the Ukraine proping up the Ilegal Government in Kiev, and what would they be doing there, they are there to destablise the Russian Government, people in Kiev have been disapering.
You don't have to be hiding any thing, you just might say some thing they don't like and that will be enough.
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: And yesterday this government push though new sercuritys that will allow not just the police but also there private government sercurity G4 to be able to enter any household by any means with out a warrent. This is more in turn with Hilter Germany, it also allows them G4 that is to read every ones e-mails, listen in on phone calls, open your letters, it also give them the right to operate out side the UK in other countrys.[/p][/quote]And the link to pensions is what precisely? I suppose you could have likened it to Stalin's Russia but their steam driven economy hasn't seen the introduction of computers yet.[/p][/quote]When Russia collapse back in the early 90's, and westerns started to have a look around on there technology, it was found that the Russian rockets Engines and there computors where decades ahead on the rest of the world there engine designs are now being used by Nasa, ideas how to run computors now incorporated in our systems. As for pensions it as a lot to do with it, every thing is telling us that we are heading into Hitler Germany system and your dystopian society is just round the corner.[/p][/quote]I used to think you made it up as you went along but I don't think you're that clever. What G4 would make of your rubbish is anyone's guess but they may pursue your emails in the belief that you are using a code based loosely on English.[/p][/quote]Difference is your sleep walking right into it and allowing to happen, I can see it coming. You do realise that G4 and Blackwater are in the Ukraine proping up the Ilegal Government in Kiev, and what would they be doing there, they are there to destablise the Russian Government, people in Kiev have been disapering. You don't have to be hiding any thing, you just might say some thing they don't like and that will be enough. southy
  • Score: -3

8:21pm Mon 21 Jul 14

03alpe01 says...

one in the crowd wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
Going to Southampton and standing in front of a board promoting cruises from Liverpool. Priceless.
A wonderful endorsement for cruising from Liverpool.
seems even the Government have joined the from Southampton to Liverpool party!
[quote][p][bold]one in the crowd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: Going to Southampton and standing in front of a board promoting cruises from Liverpool. Priceless.[/p][/quote]A wonderful endorsement for cruising from Liverpool.[/p][/quote]seems even the Government have joined the from Southampton to Liverpool party! 03alpe01
  • Score: 1

9:44pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Torchie1 says...

southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
And yesterday this government push though new sercuritys that will allow not just the police but also there private government sercurity G4 to be able to enter any household by any means with out a warrent. This is more in turn with Hilter Germany, it also allows them G4 that is to read every ones e-mails, listen in on phone calls, open your letters, it also give them the right to operate out side the UK in other countrys.
And the link to pensions is what precisely? I suppose you could have likened it to Stalin's Russia but their steam driven economy hasn't seen the introduction of computers yet.
When Russia collapse back in the early 90's, and westerns started to have a look around on there technology, it was found that the Russian rockets Engines and there computors where decades ahead on the rest of the world there engine designs are now being used by Nasa, ideas how to run computors now incorporated in our systems.
As for pensions it as a lot to do with it, every thing is telling us that we are heading into Hitler Germany system and your dystopian society is just round the corner.
I used to think you made it up as you went along but I don't think you're that clever. What G4 would make of your rubbish is anyone's guess but they may pursue your emails in the belief that you are using a code based loosely on English.
Difference is your sleep walking right into it and allowing to happen, I can see it coming. You do realise that G4 and Blackwater are in the Ukraine proping up the Ilegal Government in Kiev, and what would they be doing there, they are there to destablise the Russian Government, people in Kiev have been disapering.
You don't have to be hiding any thing, you just might say some thing they don't like and that will be enough.
A return to the 1930s and the joys of Stalinism, it must make you well up with nostalgia.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: And yesterday this government push though new sercuritys that will allow not just the police but also there private government sercurity G4 to be able to enter any household by any means with out a warrent. This is more in turn with Hilter Germany, it also allows them G4 that is to read every ones e-mails, listen in on phone calls, open your letters, it also give them the right to operate out side the UK in other countrys.[/p][/quote]And the link to pensions is what precisely? I suppose you could have likened it to Stalin's Russia but their steam driven economy hasn't seen the introduction of computers yet.[/p][/quote]When Russia collapse back in the early 90's, and westerns started to have a look around on there technology, it was found that the Russian rockets Engines and there computors where decades ahead on the rest of the world there engine designs are now being used by Nasa, ideas how to run computors now incorporated in our systems. As for pensions it as a lot to do with it, every thing is telling us that we are heading into Hitler Germany system and your dystopian society is just round the corner.[/p][/quote]I used to think you made it up as you went along but I don't think you're that clever. What G4 would make of your rubbish is anyone's guess but they may pursue your emails in the belief that you are using a code based loosely on English.[/p][/quote]Difference is your sleep walking right into it and allowing to happen, I can see it coming. You do realise that G4 and Blackwater are in the Ukraine proping up the Ilegal Government in Kiev, and what would they be doing there, they are there to destablise the Russian Government, people in Kiev have been disapering. You don't have to be hiding any thing, you just might say some thing they don't like and that will be enough.[/p][/quote]A return to the 1930s and the joys of Stalinism, it must make you well up with nostalgia. Torchie1
  • Score: 2

1:13am Tue 22 Jul 14

southy says...

Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
And yesterday this government push though new sercuritys that will allow not just the police but also there private government sercurity G4 to be able to enter any household by any means with out a warrent. This is more in turn with Hilter Germany, it also allows them G4 that is to read every ones e-mails, listen in on phone calls, open your letters, it also give them the right to operate out side the UK in other countrys.
And the link to pensions is what precisely? I suppose you could have likened it to Stalin's Russia but their steam driven economy hasn't seen the introduction of computers yet.
When Russia collapse back in the early 90's, and westerns started to have a look around on there technology, it was found that the Russian rockets Engines and there computors where decades ahead on the rest of the world there engine designs are now being used by Nasa, ideas how to run computors now incorporated in our systems.
As for pensions it as a lot to do with it, every thing is telling us that we are heading into Hitler Germany system and your dystopian society is just round the corner.
I used to think you made it up as you went along but I don't think you're that clever. What G4 would make of your rubbish is anyone's guess but they may pursue your emails in the belief that you are using a code based loosely on English.
Difference is your sleep walking right into it and allowing to happen, I can see it coming. You do realise that G4 and Blackwater are in the Ukraine proping up the Ilegal Government in Kiev, and what would they be doing there, they are there to destablise the Russian Government, people in Kiev have been disapering.
You don't have to be hiding any thing, you just might say some thing they don't like and that will be enough.
A return to the 1930s and the joys of Stalinism, it must make you well up with nostalgia.
That is right on the spot, thats what we been heading towards for the last 35 years slowly bit by bit and there was MP's and Union members that did warn us where it was all heading back in the early 80's
Like in WWII the first shoots where fired way before 1939 (Spainsih Civil war) the first shoots in WWIII have all ready been fired we are heading towards the next stage
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: And yesterday this government push though new sercuritys that will allow not just the police but also there private government sercurity G4 to be able to enter any household by any means with out a warrent. This is more in turn with Hilter Germany, it also allows them G4 that is to read every ones e-mails, listen in on phone calls, open your letters, it also give them the right to operate out side the UK in other countrys.[/p][/quote]And the link to pensions is what precisely? I suppose you could have likened it to Stalin's Russia but their steam driven economy hasn't seen the introduction of computers yet.[/p][/quote]When Russia collapse back in the early 90's, and westerns started to have a look around on there technology, it was found that the Russian rockets Engines and there computors where decades ahead on the rest of the world there engine designs are now being used by Nasa, ideas how to run computors now incorporated in our systems. As for pensions it as a lot to do with it, every thing is telling us that we are heading into Hitler Germany system and your dystopian society is just round the corner.[/p][/quote]I used to think you made it up as you went along but I don't think you're that clever. What G4 would make of your rubbish is anyone's guess but they may pursue your emails in the belief that you are using a code based loosely on English.[/p][/quote]Difference is your sleep walking right into it and allowing to happen, I can see it coming. You do realise that G4 and Blackwater are in the Ukraine proping up the Ilegal Government in Kiev, and what would they be doing there, they are there to destablise the Russian Government, people in Kiev have been disapering. You don't have to be hiding any thing, you just might say some thing they don't like and that will be enough.[/p][/quote]A return to the 1930s and the joys of Stalinism, it must make you well up with nostalgia.[/p][/quote]That is right on the spot, thats what we been heading towards for the last 35 years slowly bit by bit and there was MP's and Union members that did warn us where it was all heading back in the early 80's Like in WWII the first shoots where fired way before 1939 (Spainsih Civil war) the first shoots in WWIII have all ready been fired we are heading towards the next stage southy
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4:14pm Tue 12 Aug 14

aldermoorboy says...

welcome
welcome aldermoorboy
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