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Shipbuilding yard's future is in doubt


THE long-term future of the former VT shipbuilding yard in Hampshire has been thrown into doubt by a leaked memo.

Two out of three shipyards belonging to BVT Surface Fleet, the joint venture company which took over the running of the Portsmouth yard last year, face closure within a decade, according to the document.

The other two yards are in Govan and Scotstoun in Glasgow, Scotland.

Any closure could be a disaster for the south Hampshire economy where as many as one in 12 people are reliant for work on the Portsmouth naval base.

It’s the second leak for BVT in as many days after an earlier memo revealed costs for the project had swelled by a billion pounds, from £4 billion to £5 billion.

The latest memo is said to show BVT Surface Fleet’s chief executive Alan Johnston forecasting savings of as much as half a billion pounds from the closure of two out of the three yards after the contract for two aircraft carriers is completed in 2014.

BVT was formed by the merging of Hampshire defence giants BAE Systems and VT Group’s shipbuilding operations and was designed to smooth the manufacture of two Royal Navy aircraft carriers.

But once the Queen Elizabeth and Prince of Wales enter into service in 2014 and 2016 respectively, there will be reduced demand for Royal Naval shipbuilding.A BVT spokesman said that he could ‘not deny’ that a memo existed.

The memo is said to show BVT Surface Fleet’s chief executive Alan Johnston forecasting savings of as much as half a billion pounds from the closure of two out of the three yards after the contract for two aircraft carriers.

It is also is reported to state that the Ministry of Defence is willing to finance redundancies in order to scale down Britain’s capacity for building warships.

Around 1,300 Portsmouth workers will build hull sections of the carriers, including hundreds who are based in Southampton, a legacy of VT’s original Woolston site. A further 1,700 jobs are expected to be created in the region in support roles.

BVT said it is not expecting to close any facilities in the ‘foreseeable’ future.

“BVT Surface Fleet has a solid order book for the next seven to eight years and is in the strongest position that the shipbuilding industry in the UK has seen for a generation.

“To that end, it continues to invest in designs, facilities and skills to secure the long-term future of both its Clyde and Portsmouth facilities.”

A spokesman for the Ministry of Defence said: “Negotiations with industry partners are still ongoing and no decisions have been taken, therefore, it would be inappropriate to comment further.”



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Linesman, Fareham says...
8:53am Thu 2 Jul 09

According to a BVT spokesman, the document was 'a worst case scenario' plan, which shows good sense by the company's planners.

If more companies had made similar contingency plans, then fewer of them would have gone bankrupt.

The bible tells the story of 'the years of famine following years of plenty', explaining that in the good years you plan for the lean years.

Well done BVT for taking that advice!


Andy Locks Heath, says...
11:08am Thu 2 Jul 09

This is a really radical idea for Britain I know, where we prefer to just talk about things but why don't we try building ships for other countries and exporting them?

soton1980, Southampton/Winchester/Fareham says...
11:44am Thu 2 Jul 09

Andy Locks Heath wrote:
This is a really radical idea for Britain I know, where we prefer to just talk about things but why don't we try building ships for other countries and exporting them?
All this stuff on the news about leaked memos is rubbish. The French Navy are interested in the QE class aircraft carriers for a start!

http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/Future_Fren
ch_aircraft_carrier

It may be wikipedia, but it is all backed up with citations.

Lone Ranger, Southampton says...
11:52am Thu 2 Jul 09

Sensationalist headlines again.

Quote:- BVT Surface Fleet have a full order book for the next seven to eight years"

How many companies can say that. At the moment barely a handful at a guess.


goard, Southampton says...
12:35pm Thu 2 Jul 09

Is there anything left in our Country that has not been sold down the river? One hears constantly from the newspapers that some foreign rich kid has bought something we value -the public are treated as cash cows. When we have no more money they dump us. I would like to know who started selling off all our assets? Even the Post Office has been descimated, customers neglected, workers treated with no respect. We cannot blame Mandleson for all of it but he sure as hell intends to throw us to the wolves (EU)! Yes, there are some nasties burrowing into our everyday lives like weavils.

goard

Condor Man, Southampton says...
12:51pm Thu 2 Jul 09

since VT pulled out of Woolston and left the place in tatters I couldn't care less, especially for Portsmouth.

Andy Locks Heath, says...
3:55pm Thu 2 Jul 09

soton1980 wrote:
Andy Locks Heath wrote:
This is a really radical idea for Britain I know, where we prefer to just talk about things but why don't we try building ships for other countries and exporting them?
All this stuff on the news about leaked memos is rubbish. The French Navy are interested in the QE class aircraft carriers for a start!

http://en.wikipedia.

org/wiki/Future_Fren

ch_aircraft_carrier

It may be wikipedia, but it is all backed up with citations.
That was the plan - 2 for Britain, 1 for France. But that means Thales (the French partner) gets to build large bits of the two British carriers. The French never, NEVER let a foreign company get the majority share in any of their defence spending.

goard, Southampton says...
4:27pm Thu 2 Jul 09

What amazes me there are no 'salesmen'. In the good old days it depended on super salesmen and could sell a camel to Iceland - now it is MPs and MEPs who are just being 'talked down' or ignored. We have a grim future ahead of us - the EU have no respect for us.
It was mentioned we will concentrate on sales world wide and get back to how we use to trade - what a hope - they want to spit on us. We are not a country of our word, integrity we have none!

Goard

Andy Locks Heath, says...
5:37pm Thu 2 Jul 09

Virtually no MPs have any experience at all of industry Goard - the vast majority are career politicians or lawyers totally exposed and overwhelmed in the world of comepetition where words don't count. . The number with experience in what it takes to compete in industry (Vince Cable is one, and doesn't it show!) can be counted on the fingers of two hands. In their hands our world beating farming industry was sliced to pieces by restrictive regulation that European rivals knew was crippling. Now we see it in manufacturing.

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