Trout Inn in Itchen Abbas closes after tenant's abrupt departure

Message left by a customer on the chalk board at the closed Trout inn

Message left by a customer on the chalk board at the closed Trout inn

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MYSTERY surrounds the closure of a Winchester pub after the landlord is suspected to have abandoned it in the middle of the night.

The Trout Inn in Itchen Abbas has been closed for nearly a month after the tenants left suddently.

Itchen Valley Parish Council clerk, Viv Brooks, said: “At the last council meeting in the beginning of May someone said that the manager had absconded in the middle of the night but that’s all we know at this stage.”

One villager left a chalked notice by the door: “Closed. They bloody left without telling us. The Village. X”

Councillor for the Itchen Valley ward, Kim Gottlieb, said: “We were very unhappy to see it close. It’s quite a tricky one because the brewery needs to get the formula just right. It’s not about offering a good pint and decent food, it’s got to serve a much wider community now because the competition is so fierce.

“The village will be very disappointed if it closes down completely. We’ve got some other good pubs in the area not far away but it would be a big shame if it were to close. I know the village are keen to see it reopen and I hope the new landlord will bring something new. It’s had a patchy history but we’re lucky to have a number of good pubs all over the place.”

A spokesperson for Greene King said: “Unfortunately the Trout closed earlier this month (May), for reasons beyond our control.

“However, we wish to reassure locals and customers that it is an important pub to us and we are now in the process of recruiting a new tenant who will take the Trout forward. We plan to re-open it in July, following a refurbishment throughout the pub, its bedrooms and the garden.”

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2:00pm Wed 28 May 14

funkyd says...

A quick look on recent reviews on TripAdvisor shows some very poor ratings. It's a real shame as itches Abbas is a lovely village and one of the first things you see as you enter the village is the Trout Inn. The area and locals there deserve a good pub with some nice local sourced food. Prime spot potentially.
A quick look on recent reviews on TripAdvisor shows some very poor ratings. It's a real shame as itches Abbas is a lovely village and one of the first things you see as you enter the village is the Trout Inn. The area and locals there deserve a good pub with some nice local sourced food. Prime spot potentially. funkyd
  • Score: -1

4:47pm Wed 28 May 14

thepubguy says...

Looking at greedy greene kings annual rent of £50k + business rates it's no wonder the poor guys did a disappearing act. I would too. When you compare thier rent to other brewery's it's criminal! The quote about caring about the pub is ridiculous and just their way of passing the buck. Charging the rent they do, and tieing their tenants to their over priced beer and not allowing local ales like a village pub needs it is just another building on their books to them. Unfortunately this is the story for many of the greene king pubs going under. You only have to keep an eye on their website to see how frequently their pubs change hands. I think there are 4 alone in the near by area that you see frequently available on the market and that doesn't include the ones that seem to change tenants on a yearly basis. I think if the locals of all these pubs realise the terms they put tenants under they would be less critical and perhaps slightly more supportive. Greene king and marstons care only for their managed houses, if you're not one of these then they will rinse you for every penny you have. And then play the victim when tenants decide to terminate their lease. I see greene king also promise a refurb - something that is probably long over due and obviously wasn't done for the previous landlords and is only being done to make the lease more appealing. Once you're in they don't want to know!
Looking at greedy greene kings annual rent of £50k + business rates it's no wonder the poor guys did a disappearing act. I would too. When you compare thier rent to other brewery's it's criminal! The quote about caring about the pub is ridiculous and just their way of passing the buck. Charging the rent they do, and tieing their tenants to their over priced beer and not allowing local ales like a village pub needs it is just another building on their books to them. Unfortunately this is the story for many of the greene king pubs going under. You only have to keep an eye on their website to see how frequently their pubs change hands. I think there are 4 alone in the near by area that you see frequently available on the market and that doesn't include the ones that seem to change tenants on a yearly basis. I think if the locals of all these pubs realise the terms they put tenants under they would be less critical and perhaps slightly more supportive. Greene king and marstons care only for their managed houses, if you're not one of these then they will rinse you for every penny you have. And then play the victim when tenants decide to terminate their lease. I see greene king also promise a refurb - something that is probably long over due and obviously wasn't done for the previous landlords and is only being done to make the lease more appealing. Once you're in they don't want to know! thepubguy
  • Score: 14

6:19pm Wed 28 May 14

winchres says...

thepubguy wrote:
Looking at greedy greene kings annual rent of £50k + business rates it's no wonder the poor guys did a disappearing act. I would too. When you compare thier rent to other brewery's it's criminal! The quote about caring about the pub is ridiculous and just their way of passing the buck. Charging the rent they do, and tieing their tenants to their over priced beer and not allowing local ales like a village pub needs it is just another building on their books to them. Unfortunately this is the story for many of the greene king pubs going under. You only have to keep an eye on their website to see how frequently their pubs change hands. I think there are 4 alone in the near by area that you see frequently available on the market and that doesn't include the ones that seem to change tenants on a yearly basis. I think if the locals of all these pubs realise the terms they put tenants under they would be less critical and perhaps slightly more supportive. Greene king and marstons care only for their managed houses, if you're not one of these then they will rinse you for every penny you have. And then play the victim when tenants decide to terminate their lease. I see greene king also promise a refurb - something that is probably long over due and obviously wasn't done for the previous landlords and is only being done to make the lease more appealing. Once you're in they don't want to know!
Can you just terminate your lease? Is it not like renting a property, once you have signed up to a period you must pay for that period even if you choose to move out earlier?
[quote][p][bold]thepubguy[/bold] wrote: Looking at greedy greene kings annual rent of £50k + business rates it's no wonder the poor guys did a disappearing act. I would too. When you compare thier rent to other brewery's it's criminal! The quote about caring about the pub is ridiculous and just their way of passing the buck. Charging the rent they do, and tieing their tenants to their over priced beer and not allowing local ales like a village pub needs it is just another building on their books to them. Unfortunately this is the story for many of the greene king pubs going under. You only have to keep an eye on their website to see how frequently their pubs change hands. I think there are 4 alone in the near by area that you see frequently available on the market and that doesn't include the ones that seem to change tenants on a yearly basis. I think if the locals of all these pubs realise the terms they put tenants under they would be less critical and perhaps slightly more supportive. Greene king and marstons care only for their managed houses, if you're not one of these then they will rinse you for every penny you have. And then play the victim when tenants decide to terminate their lease. I see greene king also promise a refurb - something that is probably long over due and obviously wasn't done for the previous landlords and is only being done to make the lease more appealing. Once you're in they don't want to know![/p][/quote]Can you just terminate your lease? Is it not like renting a property, once you have signed up to a period you must pay for that period even if you choose to move out earlier? winchres
  • Score: 0

6:26pm Wed 28 May 14

thepubguy says...

It all depends on the type of agreement the brewery decides to con you with. Whatever arlgreement it is though, it willvalways be the licencee who is left out of pocket. If there is no rent left to pay then they will hit you with cleaning charges etc regardless of the condition left it. The breweries also have a habit of ignoring their code of practice completely and just put it in the hands of the solicitors so if you don't have the money to take them to court you are made to rollover and accept any charges they throw at you. Breweries also take a deposit of you at the beginning of the agreements which you will almost always kiss goodbye to regardless of circumstances. They are legalised thief's.
It all depends on the type of agreement the brewery decides to con you with. Whatever arlgreement it is though, it willvalways be the licencee who is left out of pocket. If there is no rent left to pay then they will hit you with cleaning charges etc regardless of the condition left it. The breweries also have a habit of ignoring their code of practice completely and just put it in the hands of the solicitors so if you don't have the money to take them to court you are made to rollover and accept any charges they throw at you. Breweries also take a deposit of you at the beginning of the agreements which you will almost always kiss goodbye to regardless of circumstances. They are legalised thief's. thepubguy
  • Score: 8

11:11pm Wed 28 May 14

funkyd says...

Thanks for the perspective pubguy - that's really bad to hear and sounds very heavy, very constrained to their conditions.
Thanks for the perspective pubguy - that's really bad to hear and sounds very heavy, very constrained to their conditions. funkyd
  • Score: 1

7:43pm Thu 29 May 14

chumpster says...

The Trout Inn mystery. It all sounds a bit fishy to me...
The Trout Inn mystery. It all sounds a bit fishy to me... chumpster
  • Score: 3

11:55pm Thu 29 May 14

Hewhuff says...

chumpster wrote:
The Trout Inn mystery. It all sounds a bit fishy to me...
Nothing fishy about it chump. Another set of landlords screwed by Greene king.

Also I knew a member of staff working there. They were always paid on time as far as I'm aware. I don't believe otherwise for a moment.
[quote][p][bold]chumpster[/bold] wrote: The Trout Inn mystery. It all sounds a bit fishy to me...[/p][/quote]Nothing fishy about it chump. Another set of landlords screwed by Greene king. Also I knew a member of staff working there. They were always paid on time as far as I'm aware. I don't believe otherwise for a moment. Hewhuff
  • Score: 3

11:03am Thu 12 Jun 14

wheresthemoneygone says...

Quite right 'pubguy', the corporations and councils are killing small entrepreneurial businesses where real growth, choice and innovation largely come from.With no movement or recognition from lazy and corrupt governments this won't charge and eventually we'll lose most of our customs and heritage. So who do the Government really represent?
Quite right 'pubguy', the corporations and councils are killing small entrepreneurial businesses where real growth, choice and innovation largely come from.With no movement or recognition from lazy and corrupt governments this won't charge and eventually we'll lose most of our customs and heritage. So who do the Government really represent? wheresthemoneygone
  • Score: 2

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