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Deadline looms for primary school applications

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PARENTS across Southampton and Hampshire whose children are due to start infant, junior or primary school this September have only got a few days left to apply for a place.

Application forms for reception classes and for those transferring schools ahead of Year 3 must be submitted to council admissions teams by midnight on Sunday.

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TIME is also running out for students to get their university applications in.

Admissions service UCAS has also set a deadline of Sunday night for those wanting to study courses at university and college from this summer.

The organisation is urging prospective students to send in their applications as soon as possible, but say late submissions received by June 30 will be considered by institutions, so long as they still have vacancies.

Council chiefs are urging parents to get their forms in on time to give themselves the best chance of gaining a spot for their youngsters at the school of their choice.

Competition for places is expected to be especially tough this year, as councils battle to create enough spaces in schools to cope with rising numbers of children.

Some 75 youngsters were left without a school for up to two months at the start of the academic year because of a crisis in the bursting-at-theseams system, despite their parents having applied on time.

But a further 20 children whose parents had submitted applications late had to wait into November to be allocated a spot.

Southampton City Council’s education chief, Councillor Jeremy Moulton, said: “It’s important that parents and carers get their applications for reception class and junior school places in on time.

“If an application comes in after the closing date, it will only be processed after all the on-time applications have been completed and it may mean that you could miss out on your preferred schools.”

Last year one in ten Hampshire children missed out on their parents’ preferred choice of school for reception class.

The county council allocated first preferences to 89.6 per cent of Year R requests and 97.3 per cent of first choices for Year 3 transfers, from more than 21,000 applications. In Southampton, 24 schools were oversubscribed last year, with Springhill Catholic Primary School receiving 239 applications for 90 places.

Comments(9)

parent222 says...
9:51am Thu 12 Jan 12

My child is one that has not yet started school, even though our application WAS on time. Having not been offered a place at any of my preferred schools (including catchment school) has left us extremely concerned. We have this year been offered a school out of area and that has failed the offsted 3 years in a row. Not the start in education we as a parents want. Parents having a choice where there children go is a joke. We have been on waiting lists for our 3 local schools and keep being pushed down the list. We have been home tutoring and will continue to do so until we are given a decent school. Is it too much to ask for the best start in life.

Over the Edge says...
10:01am Thu 12 Jan 12

parent222 wrote:
My child is one that has not yet started school, even though our application WAS on time. Having not been offered a place at any of my preferred schools (including catchment school) has left us extremely concerned. We have this year been offered a school out of area and that has failed the offsted 3 years in a row. Not the start in education we as a parents want. Parents having a choice where there children go is a joke. We have been on waiting lists for our 3 local schools and keep being pushed down the list. We have been home tutoring and will continue to do so until we are given a decent school. Is it too much to ask for the best start in life.
Situations like yours is very concerning and I fear this problem will only get added to because of the cuts in jobs and the number of people processing the applications.

MGRA says...
10:12am Thu 12 Jan 12

Over the Edge wrote:
parent222 wrote:
My child is one that has not yet started school, even though our application WAS on time. Having not been offered a place at any of my preferred schools (including catchment school) has left us extremely concerned. We have this year been offered a school out of area and that has failed the offsted 3 years in a row. Not the start in education we as a parents want. Parents having a choice where there children go is a joke. We have been on waiting lists for our 3 local schools and keep being pushed down the list. We have been home tutoring and will continue to do so until we are given a decent school. Is it too much to ask for the best start in life.
Situations like yours is very concerning and I fear this problem will only get added to because of the cuts in jobs and the number of people processing the applications.
you are incorrect. the ONLY things making the situation worse are authorities who fail to get best practices and good managements to run/influence poor schools and for schools to be expanded where needed at a greater pace. Its nothing to do with jobs !?!? The criteria for assigning places is simple and set in stone ( before the appeals set in ). Education is so important I don't understand why more people do not move to get their kids into decent schools...

Over the Edge says...
10:38am Thu 12 Jan 12

MGRA wrote:
Over the Edge wrote:
parent222 wrote:
My child is one that has not yet started school, even though our application WAS on time. Having not been offered a place at any of my preferred schools (including catchment school) has left us extremely concerned. We have this year been offered a school out of area and that has failed the offsted 3 years in a row. Not the start in education we as a parents want. Parents having a choice where there children go is a joke. We have been on waiting lists for our 3 local schools and keep being pushed down the list. We have been home tutoring and will continue to do so until we are given a decent school. Is it too much to ask for the best start in life.
Situations like yours is very concerning and I fear this problem will only get added to because of the cuts in jobs and the number of people processing the applications.
you are incorrect. the ONLY things making the situation worse are authorities who fail to get best practices and good managements to run/influence poor schools and for schools to be expanded where needed at a greater pace. Its nothing to do with jobs !?!? The criteria for assigning places is simple and set in stone ( before the appeals set in ). Education is so important I don't understand why more people do not move to get their kids into decent schools...
Oh right.

The report says: Some 75 youngsters were left without a school for up to two months at the start of the academic year because of a crisis in the bursting-at-theseams system, despite their parents having applied on time.

If 10 people process applications now and they can't cope, what chance do they have if it's reduced to 5 people because of redundancies?

So what system are they talking about?

Over the Edge says...
10:48am Thu 12 Jan 12

MGRA wrote:
Over the Edge wrote:
parent222 wrote:
My child is one that has not yet started school, even though our application WAS on time. Having not been offered a place at any of my preferred schools (including catchment school) has left us extremely concerned. We have this year been offered a school out of area and that has failed the offsted 3 years in a row. Not the start in education we as a parents want. Parents having a choice where there children go is a joke. We have been on waiting lists for our 3 local schools and keep being pushed down the list. We have been home tutoring and will continue to do so until we are given a decent school. Is it too much to ask for the best start in life.
Situations like yours is very concerning and I fear this problem will only get added to because of the cuts in jobs and the number of people processing the applications.
you are incorrect. the ONLY things making the situation worse are authorities who fail to get best practices and good managements to run/influence poor schools and for schools to be expanded where needed at a greater pace. Its nothing to do with jobs !?!? The criteria for assigning places is simple and set in stone ( before the appeals set in ). Education is so important I don't understand why more people do not move to get their kids into decent schools...
Education is so important I don't understand why more people do not move to get their kids into decent schools...a very pompous comment from you MGRA, maybe this will help you understand,,,

Gaining access to a decent school is not on the council list of criteria for exchanging council properties.

Not everyone has a choice of where they live.

Going by your by comment, you believe that children only have a right to attend a decent school if their parents own their property, how very Tory of you.

MGRA says...
2:07pm Thu 12 Jan 12

Over the Edge wrote:
MGRA wrote:
Over the Edge wrote:
parent222 wrote:
My child is one that has not yet started school, even though our application WAS on time. Having not been offered a place at any of my preferred schools (including catchment school) has left us extremely concerned. We have this year been offered a school out of area and that has failed the offsted 3 years in a row. Not the start in education we as a parents want. Parents having a choice where there children go is a joke. We have been on waiting lists for our 3 local schools and keep being pushed down the list. We have been home tutoring and will continue to do so until we are given a decent school. Is it too much to ask for the best start in life.
Situations like yours is very concerning and I fear this problem will only get added to because of the cuts in jobs and the number of people processing the applications.
you are incorrect. the ONLY things making the situation worse are authorities who fail to get best practices and good managements to run/influence poor schools and for schools to be expanded where needed at a greater pace. Its nothing to do with jobs !?!? The criteria for assigning places is simple and set in stone ( before the appeals set in ). Education is so important I don't understand why more people do not move to get their kids into decent schools...
Oh right.

The report says: Some 75 youngsters were left without a school for up to two months at the start of the academic year because of a crisis in the bursting-at-theseams system, despite their parents having applied on time.

If 10 people process applications now and they can't cope, what chance do they have if it's reduced to 5 people because of redundancies?

So what system are they talking about?
they are talking rubbish.... there is no system "bursting at the seams".... places are assigned due to strict criteria and its a straight forward process before appeals.... its just spin.

Over the Edge says...
4:34pm Thu 12 Jan 12

MGRA wrote:
Over the Edge wrote:
MGRA wrote:
Over the Edge wrote:
parent222 wrote:
My child is one that has not yet started school, even though our application WAS on time. Having not been offered a place at any of my preferred schools (including catchment school) has left us extremely concerned. We have this year been offered a school out of area and that has failed the offsted 3 years in a row. Not the start in education we as a parents want. Parents having a choice where there children go is a joke. We have been on waiting lists for our 3 local schools and keep being pushed down the list. We have been home tutoring and will continue to do so until we are given a decent school. Is it too much to ask for the best start in life.
Situations like yours is very concerning and I fear this problem will only get added to because of the cuts in jobs and the number of people processing the applications.
you are incorrect. the ONLY things making the situation worse are authorities who fail to get best practices and good managements to run/influence poor schools and for schools to be expanded where needed at a greater pace. Its nothing to do with jobs !?!? The criteria for assigning places is simple and set in stone ( before the appeals set in ). Education is so important I don't understand why more people do not move to get their kids into decent schools...
Oh right.

The report says: Some 75 youngsters were left without a school for up to two months at the start of the academic year because of a crisis in the bursting-at-theseams system, despite their parents having applied on time.

If 10 people process applications now and they can't cope, what chance do they have if it's reduced to 5 people because of redundancies?

So what system are they talking about?
they are talking rubbish.... there is no system "bursting at the seams".... places are assigned due to strict criteria and its a straight forward process before appeals.... its just spin.
Spin by whom?

I noticed you didn't answer my question

Do you believe that children only have a right to attend a decent school if their parents own their property?

parent222 says...
7:50pm Thu 12 Jan 12

Whilst I don't wish to interfer in your disagreement, do either of you have a child that has not got a school place? Probably not. There could be 25 people processing applications, job loses within the the council are a totaly different issue, the FACT is there isn't enough school places. Why? there wasnt a baby boom? whilst birth rates have steadily risen since 2001, 2007 saw only a 0.6% rise from the previous year. The answer is ............. well i'm not allowed to say because that wouldn't be polically correct!! But if you cook dinner for 10 & 100 turn up, well you can work out the analogy.

Isthatwotuwant says...
10:31pm Sat 14 Jan 12

It is always reassuring to have people like MGRA asserting their own view of what's true without reference to facts.

The facts are that there are virtually no school places anywhere in Southampton for children in Year R, 1 or 2. So it doesn't matter how much money you have, you will only get a place at a school if someone leaves. I know several people who have been affected by this. I understand some schools are expanding, but that birth rates are still rising.

The only good news is that our schools do seem to be getting better at long last!

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