'Inadequate' Testwood Sports College placed in special measures

Testwood Sports College

Testwood Sports College

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A HAMPSHIRE school has been placed in special measures after an Ofsted inspection deemed it to be inadequate.

Testwood Sports College in Totton was given the lowest rating by the school’s inspectorate, which concluded that the school was failing to give its students an acceptable standard of education.

Head teacher Ian Appleton said that he was shocked by the findings of the report, and explained how staff have already begun a raft of improvements.

Mr Appleton, who retires at the end of the year, said: “We were just shocked, the pupils, the staff, all of us. This is not the school we recognise in this report but we are determined to do everything in our power to get us out of special measures as soon as possible.”

Mr Appleton said that had the school been inspected before last year’s set of GCSE results was published, he believed it would have retained its ‘good’ status, which it obtained before it converted to academy status in 2011.

He said: “I think the inspection was very data-driven and due to a poor set of results last year – particularly in English – we were judged on those.”

Inspectors said that following the inspection – carried out last November, with the report published this week – the leadership of the school, achievement of pupils and quality of teaching were all inadequate, with the behaviour and safety of pupils requiring improvement.

The inspectors found: n Most students do not make sufficient progress from their starting point to enable them to achieve high enough GCSE results, especially in English.

• Although teachers are now becoming more effective in helping students to make more suitable progress, this has not yet resulted in high enough achievement in examinations.

• Behaviour around the college is particularly cooperative and polite but more consistency is needed.

• The quality of leadership of the college is inadequate. Strategies in place to improve the quality of teaching have not yet had sufficient impact.

The report acknowledged that following the disappointing GCSE results of 2013 measures had already been put in place to improve performance. It also concluded that pupils enjoyed going to school and that some lessons observed were outstanding.

The school will now be subject to increased monitoring by Ofsted.

A meeting for parents was being held last night at the school to discuss the report.

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8:16am Fri 14 Feb 14

S Pance says...

Did anyone go to the meeting last night? The school were blaming the children of year 11 for the bad Ofsted!

Inconsistent homework, fighting in class, inadequate teaching standards were all mentioned by parents last night. Apparently Mr Appleton wrote to parents about 18 months ago saying it was school policy NOT to require homework to be handed in. Un-bl00dy-believable
!

One parent described Mr Appleton as "Arrogant" last night and I personally believe this to be the case.

The school need to accept that they are to blame for this mess, not the pupils before any of this will be sorted.

Glad the guy has fallen on his sword and is going.
Did anyone go to the meeting last night? The school were blaming the children of year 11 for the bad Ofsted! Inconsistent homework, fighting in class, inadequate teaching standards were all mentioned by parents last night. Apparently Mr Appleton wrote to parents about 18 months ago saying it was school policy NOT to require homework to be handed in. Un-bl00dy-believable ! One parent described Mr Appleton as "Arrogant" last night and I personally believe this to be the case. The school need to accept that they are to blame for this mess, not the pupils before any of this will be sorted. Glad the guy has fallen on his sword and is going. S Pance
  • Score: -6

8:28am Fri 14 Feb 14

10 Minute Man says...

Parents need to send children to school who are ready to learn, and support the teachers trying to teach them. Kids who are fighting in class are not the responsibility of the teacher.
Parents need to send children to school who are ready to learn, and support the teachers trying to teach them. Kids who are fighting in class are not the responsibility of the teacher. 10 Minute Man
  • Score: 42

9:22am Fri 14 Feb 14

S Pance says...

Whatever gave you that idea....the Teacher is responsible for what goes on in their class.

If the teacher loses control of their class and fighting starts it's their responsibility to quash it. Failure to do so is the sign of a bad teacher. Period.

Letting it continue to the detriment of the learning of other pupils is inexcusable.
Whatever gave you that idea....the Teacher is responsible for what goes on in their class. If the teacher loses control of their class and fighting starts it's their responsibility to quash it. Failure to do so is the sign of a bad teacher. Period. Letting it continue to the detriment of the learning of other pupils is inexcusable. S Pance
  • Score: -18

10:34am Fri 14 Feb 14

blonde_1 says...

I myself went to this school I never had a permanent teacher for English the school didn't really care about the pupils. But if the children don't want to learn you can understand why the teachers give up.
I myself went to this school I never had a permanent teacher for English the school didn't really care about the pupils. But if the children don't want to learn you can understand why the teachers give up. blonde_1
  • Score: 9

11:02am Fri 14 Feb 14

10 Minute Man says...

S Pance wrote:
Whatever gave you that idea....the Teacher is responsible for what goes on in their class.

If the teacher loses control of their class and fighting starts it's their responsibility to quash it. Failure to do so is the sign of a bad teacher. Period.

Letting it continue to the detriment of the learning of other pupils is inexcusable.
Where does that end - here's a starter list, I'd like to know when you think the teacher is supposed to be responsible.

0 - Attentive and learning.
1 - Ignore the teacher, talk to each other ?
2 - Shout out and disrupt the lesson ?
3 - Throw things at each other or the teacher?
5 - Start fights with each other or the teacher?
8 - Bring weapons into the classroom to assault others?
9 - Kill/main people?
10 -Burn the school down?

The problem is that pupils enter the classroom with an expectation of behaviour not at the top of this list, but half way down....and you think the teacher is supposed to bring them back to the top - to normal, acceptable learning behaviour ? Why ? Failure of parents....
[quote][p][bold]S Pance[/bold] wrote: Whatever gave you that idea....the Teacher is responsible for what goes on in their class. If the teacher loses control of their class and fighting starts it's their responsibility to quash it. Failure to do so is the sign of a bad teacher. Period. Letting it continue to the detriment of the learning of other pupils is inexcusable.[/p][/quote]Where does that end - here's a starter list, I'd like to know when you think the teacher is supposed to be responsible. 0 - Attentive and learning. 1 - Ignore the teacher, talk to each other ? 2 - Shout out and disrupt the lesson ? 3 - Throw things at each other or the teacher? 5 - Start fights with each other or the teacher? 8 - Bring weapons into the classroom to assault others? 9 - Kill/main people? 10 -Burn the school down? The problem is that pupils enter the classroom with an expectation of behaviour not at the top of this list, but half way down....and you think the teacher is supposed to bring them back to the top - to normal, acceptable learning behaviour ? Why ? Failure of parents.... 10 Minute Man
  • Score: 25

11:09am Fri 14 Feb 14

deepheat says...

You can forget sending your child to this school if they have any ambition of being a musician. They don't have a music department or teachers that can teach music.
I know someone that went to Testwood School. They said their last two years at school was so boring, nothing but going over and over subjects for exams, every day was like groundhog day. There was no inspiration from teachers who were just as bored as the Kids they were suppose to be teaching. No wonder pupils just ended up bunking off school. The headmasters of this school, past and present have let so many pupils and parents down over the years.
You can forget sending your child to this school if they have any ambition of being a musician. They don't have a music department or teachers that can teach music. I know someone that went to Testwood School. They said their last two years at school was so boring, nothing but going over and over subjects for exams, every day was like groundhog day. There was no inspiration from teachers who were just as bored as the Kids they were suppose to be teaching. No wonder pupils just ended up bunking off school. The headmasters of this school, past and present have let so many pupils and parents down over the years. deepheat
  • Score: 1

11:16am Fri 14 Feb 14

S Pance says...

10 Minute Man wrote:
S Pance wrote:
Whatever gave you that idea....the Teacher is responsible for what goes on in their class.

If the teacher loses control of their class and fighting starts it's their responsibility to quash it. Failure to do so is the sign of a bad teacher. Period.

Letting it continue to the detriment of the learning of other pupils is inexcusable.
Where does that end - here's a starter list, I'd like to know when you think the teacher is supposed to be responsible.

0 - Attentive and learning.
1 - Ignore the teacher, talk to each other ?
2 - Shout out and disrupt the lesson ?
3 - Throw things at each other or the teacher?
5 - Start fights with each other or the teacher?
8 - Bring weapons into the classroom to assault others?
9 - Kill/main people?
10 -Burn the school down?

The problem is that pupils enter the classroom with an expectation of behaviour not at the top of this list, but half way down....and you think the teacher is supposed to bring them back to the top - to normal, acceptable learning behaviour ? Why ? Failure of parents....
Ensuring good behaviour is a fundamental part of their job!

The UK "Teachers' Standards" states teachers must: "Manage behaviour effectively to ensure a good and safe learning environment"

I'm sorry, but ANY Teacher who can't meet the minimum standards as laid down in law should NOT be a teacher..

Here's a link to the Teacher Standards. This details the minimum standard they must achieve:

https://www.gov.uk/g
overnment/publicatio
ns/teachers-standard
s

Is it any surprise the School is failing when the Teacher's apparently can't meet the minimum standards themselves?
[quote][p][bold]10 Minute Man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]S Pance[/bold] wrote: Whatever gave you that idea....the Teacher is responsible for what goes on in their class. If the teacher loses control of their class and fighting starts it's their responsibility to quash it. Failure to do so is the sign of a bad teacher. Period. Letting it continue to the detriment of the learning of other pupils is inexcusable.[/p][/quote]Where does that end - here's a starter list, I'd like to know when you think the teacher is supposed to be responsible. 0 - Attentive and learning. 1 - Ignore the teacher, talk to each other ? 2 - Shout out and disrupt the lesson ? 3 - Throw things at each other or the teacher? 5 - Start fights with each other or the teacher? 8 - Bring weapons into the classroom to assault others? 9 - Kill/main people? 10 -Burn the school down? The problem is that pupils enter the classroom with an expectation of behaviour not at the top of this list, but half way down....and you think the teacher is supposed to bring them back to the top - to normal, acceptable learning behaviour ? Why ? Failure of parents....[/p][/quote]Ensuring good behaviour is a fundamental part of their job! The UK "Teachers' Standards" states teachers must: "Manage behaviour effectively to ensure a good and safe learning environment" I'm sorry, but ANY Teacher who can't meet the minimum standards as laid down in law should NOT be a teacher.. Here's a link to the Teacher Standards. This details the minimum standard they must achieve: https://www.gov.uk/g overnment/publicatio ns/teachers-standard s Is it any surprise the School is failing when the Teacher's apparently can't meet the minimum standards themselves? S Pance
  • Score: -16

11:26am Fri 14 Feb 14

Andy Locks Heath says...

The fact that Ian Appleton Was "shocked" by these findings should indicate to him why his school got such a low rating. It is just as well that he is going. If Mr Appleton is not able to anticipate what Ofsted will find then he is not the right man for the job.
The fact that Ian Appleton Was "shocked" by these findings should indicate to him why his school got such a low rating. It is just as well that he is going. If Mr Appleton is not able to anticipate what Ofsted will find then he is not the right man for the job. Andy Locks Heath
  • Score: -3

12:14pm Fri 14 Feb 14

solents says...

I am a parent of children at this school.
I was at the meeting last night.
I witnessed only 3 or 4 parents really speak out.
Most of the issues that they raised had nothing to do with the Ofsted report itself but were aimed at their perception of what they believe goes on in the school with regard to homework and pupil behavior.
Mr. Appleton was at pains to point out that half way through the academic year; Mr Gove and the Government moved the goal posts with regard to what the school was to achieve. This meant that instead of a vast majority of children getting marked at grade 'C' they number got a grade 'D' instead. A grade 'D' is not a fail in examination terms - it is only a few marks away from a higher attainment level. When the rules are changed then turning things around is not an easy thing to do when you have mapped out your whole year and set lessons and teaching according to the rules which were in place at the start of the year.
He then went on to state that any parent is welcome to go into the school and observe what happens regarding behavior by being escorted around the corridors and having the opportunity to listen and see how the pupils behave - it is something that the staff do regularly.
With regard to homework and the perceived lack of a) the amount of homework set in some areas and b) the lack of feedback/marking of homework then it was conceded that this was an area which requires addressing. My own thoughts are that if your child hands his/her homework in on time then I should expect that it is marked and feedback to the child given. However if the homework isn't handed in or is late without a reason they why should the teacher be expected to go back to an old subject and mark it. I know that teachers spend a lot of their own time marking books and planning lessons so burdening them with extra work isn't fair. If the homework isn't marked because it wasn't handed in or it was late then a comment in that child's' homework book should be made which the parents can read. This may ensure that homework is handed in and marked on time. We as parents have a responsibility for our children's education as much as any school has. If you don't believe that your child is getting enough homework then you are able to speak to his teacher or you could bolster their education by giving them some extra references to read - there are easy to find and use education websites such as mymaths and myenglishpages which can be used.
The school did suffer a weak cohort of pupils who were way below the national average ability level upon their entry into the school in year 7. There were a high proportion of children who have special educational needs or who a history of family problems.
If you look at how the school performs with children at these lower levels then you'd be surprised to see that they often out-perform other local schools.
It's not all doom and gloom as you may think - a lot of good will come out of this. It's an opportunity change and focus with the help of specialists. Most of the action plans to improve were already in place before the visit was announced and were being acted upon. The timing of the Oftsed visit was unfortunate in that the inspectors hadn't had enough evidence to assess the effectiveness of the new measures however they did acknowledge that the changes were having an effect.
Ofsted rated the standard of teaching too with almost 25% of the observed lessons were outstanding with a high percentage rated as good and only 1 as requires improvement. 25% might not seem a lot however it is right in line with the rest of the country so the school is definitely no worse than anywhere else.
Most parents attending last nights meeting stated that they are happy with the school, that their child is happy with the school and that they are happy with their child's progress at the school. I know I am.
I am a parent of children at this school. I was at the meeting last night. I witnessed only 3 or 4 parents really speak out. Most of the issues that they raised had nothing to do with the Ofsted report itself but were aimed at their perception of what they believe goes on in the school with regard to homework and pupil behavior. Mr. Appleton was at pains to point out that half way through the academic year; Mr Gove and the Government moved the goal posts with regard to what the school was to achieve. This meant that instead of a vast majority of children getting marked at grade 'C' they number got a grade 'D' instead. A grade 'D' is not a fail in examination terms - it is only a few marks away from a higher attainment level. When the rules are changed then turning things around is not an easy thing to do when you have mapped out your whole year and set lessons and teaching according to the rules which were in place at the start of the year. He then went on to state that any parent is welcome to go into the school and observe what happens regarding behavior by being escorted around the corridors and having the opportunity to listen and see how the pupils behave - it is something that the staff do regularly. With regard to homework and the perceived lack of a) the amount of homework set in some areas and b) the lack of feedback/marking of homework then it was conceded that this was an area which requires addressing. My own thoughts are that if your child hands his/her homework in on time then I should expect that it is marked and feedback to the child given. However if the homework isn't handed in or is late without a reason they why should the teacher be expected to go back to an old subject and mark it. I know that teachers spend a lot of their own time marking books and planning lessons so burdening them with extra work isn't fair. If the homework isn't marked because it wasn't handed in or it was late then a comment in that child's' homework book should be made which the parents can read. This may ensure that homework is handed in and marked on time. We as parents have a responsibility for our children's education as much as any school has. If you don't believe that your child is getting enough homework then you are able to speak to his teacher or you could bolster their education by giving them some extra references to read - there are easy to find and use education websites such as mymaths and myenglishpages which can be used. The school did suffer a weak cohort of pupils who were way below the national average ability level upon their entry into the school in year 7. There were a high proportion of children who have special educational needs or who a history of family problems. If you look at how the school performs with children at these lower levels then you'd be surprised to see that they often out-perform other local schools. It's not all doom and gloom as you may think - a lot of good will come out of this. It's an opportunity change and focus with the help of specialists. Most of the action plans to improve were already in place before the visit was announced and were being acted upon. The timing of the Oftsed visit was unfortunate in that the inspectors hadn't had enough evidence to assess the effectiveness of the new measures however they did acknowledge that the changes were having an effect. Ofsted rated the standard of teaching too with almost 25% of the observed lessons were outstanding with a high percentage rated as good and only 1 as requires improvement. 25% might not seem a lot however it is right in line with the rest of the country so the school is definitely no worse than anywhere else. Most parents attending last nights meeting stated that they are happy with the school, that their child is happy with the school and that they are happy with their child's progress at the school. I know I am. solents
  • Score: 29

12:18pm Fri 14 Feb 14

boilerman says...

Both Of my kids went to this school, both had different learning abilities one of them went onto Uni, the other started work as soon as they left school and hasn't been out of work since , as we know some kids develop more when they leave school.
Many of their friends from school who they are still friends with also went onto uni all getting good jobs and two becoming doctors.

If kids want to learn and have the support of the parents they will do alright, if however they are disruptive and have parents who think the school should be responsible for bringing up their badly behaved kids there is a problem.
Both Of my kids went to this school, both had different learning abilities one of them went onto Uni, the other started work as soon as they left school and hasn't been out of work since , as we know some kids develop more when they leave school. Many of their friends from school who they are still friends with also went onto uni all getting good jobs and two becoming doctors. If kids want to learn and have the support of the parents they will do alright, if however they are disruptive and have parents who think the school should be responsible for bringing up their badly behaved kids there is a problem. boilerman
  • Score: 46

12:25pm Fri 14 Feb 14

bgb123 says...

It's time teachers can use discipline effectively( not hitting) and have parents support, if they don't listen or mis behave in class remove them, get the parents in and explain why. Put some cameras in classes to back up the teacher or pupil to see which one is underperforming.
It's time teachers can use discipline effectively( not hitting) and have parents support, if they don't listen or mis behave in class remove them, get the parents in and explain why. Put some cameras in classes to back up the teacher or pupil to see which one is underperforming. bgb123
  • Score: 23

12:34pm Fri 14 Feb 14

speakout19 says...

I was at the meeting. The school has been stagnant for at least 2 years. Pupils who enter above average (express) classes will do well if they are willing to learn. This is a small proportion of the yearly intake hence the low exam results. The problem lies with midstream pupils (development) whom are mixed together with children who are not interested in learning, have behaviour issues and are disrespectful to their peers.This causes major disruption to those children who want to learn. The teachers morale may be low? hence the lack of homework or marked feedback. In the past, Parents have contacted staff' but their concerns appear to be on deaf ears. The school needs to get tough, stand up for what it believes in and help those children in development whom are struggling to learn because of the ones who don't want too. Parents need to teach their children respect and what is acceptable behaviour out of the home!
I was at the meeting. The school has been stagnant for at least 2 years. Pupils who enter above average (express) classes will do well if they are willing to learn. This is a small proportion of the yearly intake hence the low exam results. The problem lies with midstream pupils (development) whom are mixed together with children who are not interested in learning, have behaviour issues and are disrespectful to their peers.This causes major disruption to those children who want to learn. The teachers morale may be low? hence the lack of homework or marked feedback. In the past, Parents have contacted staff' but their concerns appear to be on deaf ears. The school needs to get tough, stand up for what it believes in and help those children in development whom are struggling to learn because of the ones who don't want too. Parents need to teach their children respect and what is acceptable behaviour out of the home! speakout19
  • Score: 25

12:40pm Fri 14 Feb 14

solomum says...

S Pance wrote:
Whatever gave you that idea....the Teacher is responsible for what goes on in their class.

If the teacher loses control of their class and fighting starts it's their responsibility to quash it. Failure to do so is the sign of a bad teacher. Period.

Letting it continue to the detriment of the learning of other pupils is inexcusable.
Well you can blame the government for lack of control by teachers as any form of punishment is now seen as going against the rights of the child. That coupled with parents who boast all over facebook about how naughty their kids are at the school, and the teachers don't really have a hope.
[quote][p][bold]S Pance[/bold] wrote: Whatever gave you that idea....the Teacher is responsible for what goes on in their class. If the teacher loses control of their class and fighting starts it's their responsibility to quash it. Failure to do so is the sign of a bad teacher. Period. Letting it continue to the detriment of the learning of other pupils is inexcusable.[/p][/quote]Well you can blame the government for lack of control by teachers as any form of punishment is now seen as going against the rights of the child. That coupled with parents who boast all over facebook about how naughty their kids are at the school, and the teachers don't really have a hope. solomum
  • Score: 22

1:13pm Fri 14 Feb 14

solomum says...

deepheat wrote:
You can forget sending your child to this school if they have any ambition of being a musician. They don't have a music department or teachers that can teach music.
I know someone that went to Testwood School. They said their last two years at school was so boring, nothing but going over and over subjects for exams, every day was like groundhog day. There was no inspiration from teachers who were just as bored as the Kids they were suppose to be teaching. No wonder pupils just ended up bunking off school. The headmasters of this school, past and present have let so many pupils and parents down over the years.
Where on earth do you get that information from? Testwood does have a Music department for years 7, 8 and 11. Years 9+10 are focusing on BTEC which is why Music is not incorporated into their timetable. For any child wanting to pursue a musical career, there is a BTEC in Perfoming Arts. It seems that you are speaking second hand, The old story of I know someone who went there and they said.......
[quote][p][bold]deepheat[/bold] wrote: You can forget sending your child to this school if they have any ambition of being a musician. They don't have a music department or teachers that can teach music. I know someone that went to Testwood School. They said their last two years at school was so boring, nothing but going over and over subjects for exams, every day was like groundhog day. There was no inspiration from teachers who were just as bored as the Kids they were suppose to be teaching. No wonder pupils just ended up bunking off school. The headmasters of this school, past and present have let so many pupils and parents down over the years.[/p][/quote]Where on earth do you get that information from? Testwood does have a Music department for years 7, 8 and 11. Years 9+10 are focusing on BTEC which is why Music is not incorporated into their timetable. For any child wanting to pursue a musical career, there is a BTEC in Perfoming Arts. It seems that you are speaking second hand, The old story of I know someone who went there and they said....... solomum
  • Score: 5

1:15pm Fri 14 Feb 14

tony1kinobe says...

S Pance wrote:
10 Minute Man wrote:
S Pance wrote:
Whatever gave you that idea....the Teacher is responsible for what goes on in their class.

If the teacher loses control of their class and fighting starts it's their responsibility to quash it. Failure to do so is the sign of a bad teacher. Period.

Letting it continue to the detriment of the learning of other pupils is inexcusable.Where does that end - here's a starter list, I'd like to know when you think the teacher is supposed to be responsible.

0 - Attentive and learning.
1 - Ignore the teacher, talk to each other ?
2 - Shout out and disrupt the lesson ?
3 - Throw things at each other or the teacher?
5 - Start fights with each other or the teacher?
8 - Bring weapons into the classroom to assault others?
9 - Kill/main people?
10 -Burn the school down?

The problem is that pupils enter the classroom with an expectation of behaviour not at the top of this list, but half way down....and you think the teacher is supposed to bring them back to the top - to normal, acceptable learning behaviour ? Why ? Failure of parents....Ensuring good behaviour is a fundamental part of their job!

The UK "Teachers' StandardsYou sound like the twit who had a pop at everything said and then declared themselves to be from Hampshire Children Services - you must be proud working for them if it's you. Is your own house in order then?
[quote][p][bold]S Pance[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]10 Minute Man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]S Pance[/bold] wrote: Whatever gave you that idea....the Teacher is responsible for what goes on in their class. If the teacher loses control of their class and fighting starts it's their responsibility to quash it. Failure to do so is the sign of a bad teacher. Period. Letting it continue to the detriment of the learning of other pupils is inexcusable.[/p][/quote]Where does that end - here's a starter list, I'd like to know when you think the teacher is supposed to be responsible. 0 - Attentive and learning. 1 - Ignore the teacher, talk to each other ? 2 - Shout out and disrupt the lesson ? 3 - Throw things at each other or the teacher? 5 - Start fights with each other or the teacher? 8 - Bring weapons into the classroom to assault others? 9 - Kill/main people? 10 -Burn the school down? The problem is that pupils enter the classroom with an expectation of behaviour not at the top of this list, but half way down....and you think the teacher is supposed to bring them back to the top - to normal, acceptable learning behaviour ? Why ? Failure of parents....[/p][/quote]Ensuring good behaviour is a fundamental part of their job! The UK "Teachers' StandardsYou sound like the twit who had a pop at everything said and then declared themselves to be from Hampshire Children Services - you must be proud working for them if it's you. Is your own house in order then? tony1kinobe
  • Score: -3

1:17pm Fri 14 Feb 14

tony1kinobe says...

tony1kinobe wrote:
S Pance wrote:
10 Minute Man wrote:
S Pance wrote:
Whatever gave you that idea....the Teacher is responsible for what goes on in their class.

If the teacher loses control of their class and fighting starts it's their responsibility to quash it. Failure to do so is the sign of a bad teacher. Period.

Letting it continue to the detriment of the learning of other pupils is inexcusable.Where does that end - here's a starter list, I'd like to know when you think the teacher is supposed to be responsible.

0 - Attentive and learning.
1 - Ignore the teacher, talk to each other ?
2 - Shout out and disrupt the lesson ?
3 - Throw things at each other or the teacher?
5 - Start fights with each other or the teacher?
8 - Bring weapons into the classroom to assault others?
9 - Kill/main people?
10 -Burn the school down?

The problem is that pupils enter the classroom with an expectation of behaviour not at the top of this list, but half way down....and you think the teacher is supposed to bring them back to the top - to normal, acceptable learning behaviour ? Why ? Failure of parents....Ensuring good behaviour is a fundamental part of their job!

The UK "Teachers' StandardsYou sound like the twit who had a pop at everything said and then declared themselves to be from Hampshire Children Services - you must be proud working for them if it's you. Is your own house in order then?Somehow the formatting went wrong in my original quote from you so here goes again;

You sound like the twit who had a pop at everything said and then declared themselves to be from Hampshire Children Services - you must be proud working for them if it's you. Is your own house in order then?
[quote][p][bold]tony1kinobe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]S Pance[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]10 Minute Man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]S Pance[/bold] wrote: Whatever gave you that idea....the Teacher is responsible for what goes on in their class. If the teacher loses control of their class and fighting starts it's their responsibility to quash it. Failure to do so is the sign of a bad teacher. Period. Letting it continue to the detriment of the learning of other pupils is inexcusable.[/p][/quote]Where does that end - here's a starter list, I'd like to know when you think the teacher is supposed to be responsible. 0 - Attentive and learning. 1 - Ignore the teacher, talk to each other ? 2 - Shout out and disrupt the lesson ? 3 - Throw things at each other or the teacher? 5 - Start fights with each other or the teacher? 8 - Bring weapons into the classroom to assault others? 9 - Kill/main people? 10 -Burn the school down? The problem is that pupils enter the classroom with an expectation of behaviour not at the top of this list, but half way down....and you think the teacher is supposed to bring them back to the top - to normal, acceptable learning behaviour ? Why ? Failure of parents....[/p][/quote]Ensuring good behaviour is a fundamental part of their job! The UK "Teachers' StandardsYou sound like the twit who had a pop at everything said and then declared themselves to be from Hampshire Children Services - you must be proud working for them if it's you. Is your own house in order then?[/p][/quote]Somehow the formatting went wrong in my original quote from you so here goes again; You sound like the twit who had a pop at everything said and then declared themselves to be from Hampshire Children Services - you must be proud working for them if it's you. Is your own house in order then? tony1kinobe
  • Score: 0

1:23pm Fri 14 Feb 14

totton_lad says...

There were a very small number of parents who even asked question about the Ofsted inspection! The vast majority were about homework and behaviour - so why was this not raised with the school before now?.

It's very difficult to decide if my child is getting enough homework compared with any other. Some children do 'homework' at the end of a lesson, others maybe a bit slower take it home, in the end as long as it's done why complain? My child does homework because I chase it up, others rely on their child, and when they don't complete it on time blame others - take some responsibility! The school will always reply to any concerns and even send website address, sell reduced price revision/study books and cd's to help your child. They are also aware that homework is a contentious issue with some parents - some say their child gets too much other too little. School staff are on a lose/lose.

On the behaviour - all Ofsted said was 'inconsistency in bahaviour management' - note management! they saw no bad behaviour in class' or around the school in fact their comments were very positive.

So why In Measures - because a weak cohort, with a lot of boys at the bottom end of middle ability who just failed to meet the magic 'C' grade were caught during a mass of changes by Mr Gove and only made 'D' Try playing football, score a goal, and then when someone moves the goalpost say the goal is not valid.

Mr Appleton said his decision to retire was made back last Summer way before any GCSE results were issued and way before the Ofsted in November. Ofsted made no comment or recommendation about sacking the Head or anyone else.

If as some of you are saying the teaching or leadership is at fault - why don't you do something about it and start asking sensible questions at parent evenings and mentoring days. You also can really ask question of the leadership - if you become a governor?

Interesting fact, from the dates I saw on their report, was the inspection was in November but the report didn't get issued by Ofsted until February - a long time to keep anybody hanging around? Are they overworked and overpaid?
There were a very small number of parents who even asked question about the Ofsted inspection! The vast majority were about homework and behaviour - so why was this not raised with the school before now?. It's very difficult to decide if my child is getting enough homework compared with any other. Some children do 'homework' at the end of a lesson, others maybe a bit slower take it home, in the end as long as it's done why complain? My child does homework because I chase it up, others rely on their child, and when they don't complete it on time blame others - take some responsibility! The school will always reply to any concerns and even send website address, sell reduced price revision/study books and cd's to help your child. They are also aware that homework is a contentious issue with some parents - some say their child gets too much other too little. School staff are on a lose/lose. On the behaviour - all Ofsted said was 'inconsistency in bahaviour management' - note management! they saw no bad behaviour in class' or around the school in fact their comments were very positive. So why In Measures - because a weak cohort, with a lot of boys at the bottom end of middle ability who just failed to meet the magic 'C' grade were caught during a mass of changes by Mr Gove and only made 'D' Try playing football, score a goal, and then when someone moves the goalpost say the goal is not valid. Mr Appleton said his decision to retire was made back last Summer way before any GCSE results were issued and way before the Ofsted in November. Ofsted made no comment or recommendation about sacking the Head or anyone else. If as some of you are saying the teaching or leadership is at fault - why don't you do something about it and start asking sensible questions at parent evenings and mentoring days. You also can really ask question of the leadership - if you become a governor? Interesting fact, from the dates I saw on their report, was the inspection was in November but the report didn't get issued by Ofsted until February - a long time to keep anybody hanging around? Are they overworked and overpaid? totton_lad
  • Score: 11

1:30pm Fri 14 Feb 14

Totton15 says...

We have 2 children who attended this school & have nothing but praise for Testwood & Mr Appleton who turn't the school around after the days of headteacher Mrs Capsimedos.
Too many parents blame the schools, teachers, etc, when teaching good behaviour SHOULD start at home, not at school. The teachers have enough to do delivering a lesson without disruptive children making their jobs harder.
We have 2 children who attended this school & have nothing but praise for Testwood & Mr Appleton who turn't the school around after the days of headteacher Mrs Capsimedos. Too many parents blame the schools, teachers, etc, when teaching good behaviour SHOULD start at home, not at school. The teachers have enough to do delivering a lesson without disruptive children making their jobs harder. Totton15
  • Score: 21

2:04pm Fri 14 Feb 14

totton_lad says...

Great to see the hornets nest that has been stirred up. It's amazing when a school get 'Good' or better, no one complains, but when things go a little pear shaped a few creep out of the woodwork and drag up issues that have been around for ages??
Great to see the hornets nest that has been stirred up. It's amazing when a school get 'Good' or better, no one complains, but when things go a little pear shaped a few creep out of the woodwork and drag up issues that have been around for ages?? totton_lad
  • Score: 8

2:12pm Fri 14 Feb 14

crabbit says...

So many people blame schools for thier childrens behaviour, they think its the teachers responsibility to instill dicipline and a good standard of education but inreality ... They are there to teach, not be a parent.

A good foundation for school, a decent set of morals, the forsight to work hard, good behaviour, respect etc all starts at home ... parents are roll models and shouldnt leave it to the education system to bring thier children up.
So many people blame schools for thier childrens behaviour, they think its the teachers responsibility to instill dicipline and a good standard of education but inreality ... They are there to teach, not be a parent. A good foundation for school, a decent set of morals, the forsight to work hard, good behaviour, respect etc all starts at home ... parents are roll models and shouldnt leave it to the education system to bring thier children up. crabbit
  • Score: 16

2:23pm Fri 14 Feb 14

sburman says...

10 Minute Man wrote:
Parents need to send children to school who are ready to learn, and support the teachers trying to teach them. Kids who are fighting in class are not the responsibility of the teacher.
Totally agree. Teachers are there to teach our kids school subjects ( maths, English, science etc. etc.) but to many Parents think that it is also the teachers responsibility to teach their brats manners & respect. These leasons should come from their parents mainly through example.
[quote][p][bold]10 Minute Man[/bold] wrote: Parents need to send children to school who are ready to learn, and support the teachers trying to teach them. Kids who are fighting in class are not the responsibility of the teacher.[/p][/quote]Totally agree. Teachers are there to teach our kids school subjects ( maths, English, science etc. etc.) but to many Parents think that it is also the teachers responsibility to teach their brats manners & respect. These leasons should come from their parents mainly through example. sburman
  • Score: 16

2:52pm Fri 14 Feb 14

speakout19 says...

I totally agree with all the comments about Parents responsibility teaching children behaviour not the teachers BUT THE PROBLEM AT THE MOMENT is Testwood seem powerless to deal with the disruptive children in CLASS.
The teachers should be able to expel them from class immediately. They should BAN THE USE OF MOBILE PHONES from class and the giving out of sweets as these cause issues. Detentions should be more than 10 minutes and involve some kind of activity. A small amount of fear in the child is a good learning tool and does not cause harm if implemented sensibly.
The children should also be allowed to bring their work books home and homework should not rely too much on the internet. Bring back text books. Above all parents should show their support by attending meetings, filling in questionnaires, etc.
The corrective list is endless but the school
I totally agree with all the comments about Parents responsibility teaching children behaviour not the teachers BUT THE PROBLEM AT THE MOMENT is Testwood seem powerless to deal with the disruptive children in CLASS. The teachers should be able to expel them from class immediately. They should BAN THE USE OF MOBILE PHONES from class and the giving out of sweets as these cause issues. Detentions should be more than 10 minutes and involve some kind of activity. A small amount of fear in the child is a good learning tool and does not cause harm if implemented sensibly. The children should also be allowed to bring their work books home and homework should not rely too much on the internet. Bring back text books. Above all parents should show their support by attending meetings, filling in questionnaires, etc. The corrective list is endless but the school speakout19
  • Score: 13

3:07pm Fri 14 Feb 14

S Pance says...

solomum wrote:
deepheat wrote:
You can forget sending your child to this school if they have any ambition of being a musician. They don't have a music department or teachers that can teach music.
I know someone that went to Testwood School. They said their last two years at school was so boring, nothing but going over and over subjects for exams, every day was like groundhog day. There was no inspiration from teachers who were just as bored as the Kids they were suppose to be teaching. No wonder pupils just ended up bunking off school. The headmasters of this school, past and present have let so many pupils and parents down over the years.
Where on earth do you get that information from? Testwood does have a Music department for years 7, 8 and 11. Years 9+10 are focusing on BTEC which is why Music is not incorporated into their timetable. For any child wanting to pursue a musical career, there is a BTEC in Perfoming Arts. It seems that you are speaking second hand, The old story of I know someone who went there and they said.......
Yes, it has a music department which was Ofsted'ed a while ago. See the report on the Ofsted website; it was bad too.

This is not something that has suddenly happened overnight, the warning signs were there when the report into music was published.
[quote][p][bold]solomum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]deepheat[/bold] wrote: You can forget sending your child to this school if they have any ambition of being a musician. They don't have a music department or teachers that can teach music. I know someone that went to Testwood School. They said their last two years at school was so boring, nothing but going over and over subjects for exams, every day was like groundhog day. There was no inspiration from teachers who were just as bored as the Kids they were suppose to be teaching. No wonder pupils just ended up bunking off school. The headmasters of this school, past and present have let so many pupils and parents down over the years.[/p][/quote]Where on earth do you get that information from? Testwood does have a Music department for years 7, 8 and 11. Years 9+10 are focusing on BTEC which is why Music is not incorporated into their timetable. For any child wanting to pursue a musical career, there is a BTEC in Perfoming Arts. It seems that you are speaking second hand, The old story of I know someone who went there and they said.......[/p][/quote]Yes, it has a music department which was Ofsted'ed a while ago. See the report on the Ofsted website; it was bad too. This is not something that has suddenly happened overnight, the warning signs were there when the report into music was published. S Pance
  • Score: 2

3:07pm Fri 14 Feb 14

S Pance says...

solomum wrote:
deepheat wrote:
You can forget sending your child to this school if they have any ambition of being a musician. They don't have a music department or teachers that can teach music.
I know someone that went to Testwood School. They said their last two years at school was so boring, nothing but going over and over subjects for exams, every day was like groundhog day. There was no inspiration from teachers who were just as bored as the Kids they were suppose to be teaching. No wonder pupils just ended up bunking off school. The headmasters of this school, past and present have let so many pupils and parents down over the years.
Where on earth do you get that information from? Testwood does have a Music department for years 7, 8 and 11. Years 9+10 are focusing on BTEC which is why Music is not incorporated into their timetable. For any child wanting to pursue a musical career, there is a BTEC in Perfoming Arts. It seems that you are speaking second hand, The old story of I know someone who went there and they said.......
Yes, it has a music department which was Ofsted'ed a while ago. See the report on the Ofsted website; it was bad too.

This is not something that has suddenly happened overnight, the warning signs were there when the report into music was published.
[quote][p][bold]solomum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]deepheat[/bold] wrote: You can forget sending your child to this school if they have any ambition of being a musician. They don't have a music department or teachers that can teach music. I know someone that went to Testwood School. They said their last two years at school was so boring, nothing but going over and over subjects for exams, every day was like groundhog day. There was no inspiration from teachers who were just as bored as the Kids they were suppose to be teaching. No wonder pupils just ended up bunking off school. The headmasters of this school, past and present have let so many pupils and parents down over the years.[/p][/quote]Where on earth do you get that information from? Testwood does have a Music department for years 7, 8 and 11. Years 9+10 are focusing on BTEC which is why Music is not incorporated into their timetable. For any child wanting to pursue a musical career, there is a BTEC in Perfoming Arts. It seems that you are speaking second hand, The old story of I know someone who went there and they said.......[/p][/quote]Yes, it has a music department which was Ofsted'ed a while ago. See the report on the Ofsted website; it was bad too. This is not something that has suddenly happened overnight, the warning signs were there when the report into music was published. S Pance
  • Score: 1

3:14pm Fri 14 Feb 14

S Pance says...

solomum wrote:
deepheat wrote:
You can forget sending your child to this school if they have any ambition of being a musician. They don't have a music department or teachers that can teach music.
I know someone that went to Testwood School. They said their last two years at school was so boring, nothing but going over and over subjects for exams, every day was like groundhog day. There was no inspiration from teachers who were just as bored as the Kids they were suppose to be teaching. No wonder pupils just ended up bunking off school. The headmasters of this school, past and present have let so many pupils and parents down over the years.
Where on earth do you get that information from? Testwood does have a Music department for years 7, 8 and 11. Years 9+10 are focusing on BTEC which is why Music is not incorporated into their timetable. For any child wanting to pursue a musical career, there is a BTEC in Perfoming Arts. It seems that you are speaking second hand, The old story of I know someone who went there and they said.......
Solents, can you please indicate where in the report it says that:

"Ofsted rated the standard of teaching too with almost 25% of the observed lessons were outstanding with a high percentage rated as good and only 1 as requires improvement."

I have scoured the report and it clearly does NOT say that! All I can find is the mention that "Some" lessons in English (Only) are outstanding, which is not the same thing at all.

Someone is pulling the wool over your eyes, maybe..read the report instead of believing word of mouth.
[quote][p][bold]solomum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]deepheat[/bold] wrote: You can forget sending your child to this school if they have any ambition of being a musician. They don't have a music department or teachers that can teach music. I know someone that went to Testwood School. They said their last two years at school was so boring, nothing but going over and over subjects for exams, every day was like groundhog day. There was no inspiration from teachers who were just as bored as the Kids they were suppose to be teaching. No wonder pupils just ended up bunking off school. The headmasters of this school, past and present have let so many pupils and parents down over the years.[/p][/quote]Where on earth do you get that information from? Testwood does have a Music department for years 7, 8 and 11. Years 9+10 are focusing on BTEC which is why Music is not incorporated into their timetable. For any child wanting to pursue a musical career, there is a BTEC in Perfoming Arts. It seems that you are speaking second hand, The old story of I know someone who went there and they said.......[/p][/quote]Solents, can you please indicate where in the report it says that: "Ofsted rated the standard of teaching too with almost 25% of the observed lessons were outstanding with a high percentage rated as good and only 1 as requires improvement." I have scoured the report and it clearly does NOT say that! All I can find is the mention that "Some" lessons in English (Only) are outstanding, which is not the same thing at all. Someone is pulling the wool over your eyes, maybe..read the report instead of believing word of mouth. S Pance
  • Score: 2

3:15pm Fri 14 Feb 14

haselbury100 says...

I have spent the last 30 minutes reading all the posts and to be honest i am a little flabegasted at some of the coments, i was at the meeting last night in fact i was the person who said that Mr Appleton was arrogant. I still stand by my comment but it was based on the way he presented last night not the way in which he manages the school. My son when through Testwood and atained fantastic grades and has gone on to become very successful, i have two girls at the school who are doing really well and love school. Both girls recieve a huge amount of homework and we as parents spend quality time supporting them to complete the work to an acceptable standard and on time, yes we get frustrated when we have spend days and weeks working on projects to meet the deadline set by the teacher, only to find other pupils who have not made any effort have been given extensions, but thats life. The school and the teachers have a hard job and yes they have to meet the minimum standards but as pupils and parents we to have an obligation to do what we can to give our children the best start in life as possible. It is sad Mr Appleton has chosen to leave and maybe its time for new broom but we should commend him for the work he has done and wish him well for the future.
I have spent the last 30 minutes reading all the posts and to be honest i am a little flabegasted at some of the coments, i was at the meeting last night in fact i was the person who said that Mr Appleton was arrogant. I still stand by my comment but it was based on the way he presented last night not the way in which he manages the school. My son when through Testwood and atained fantastic grades and has gone on to become very successful, i have two girls at the school who are doing really well and love school. Both girls recieve a huge amount of homework and we as parents spend quality time supporting them to complete the work to an acceptable standard and on time, yes we get frustrated when we have spend days and weeks working on projects to meet the deadline set by the teacher, only to find other pupils who have not made any effort have been given extensions, but thats life. The school and the teachers have a hard job and yes they have to meet the minimum standards but as pupils and parents we to have an obligation to do what we can to give our children the best start in life as possible. It is sad Mr Appleton has chosen to leave and maybe its time for new broom but we should commend him for the work he has done and wish him well for the future. haselbury100
  • Score: 15

3:35pm Fri 14 Feb 14

tony1kinobe says...

S Pance wrote:
solomum wrote:
deepheat wrote:
You can forget sending your child to this school if they have any ambition of being a musician. They don't have a music department or teachers that can teach music.
I know someone that went to Testwood School. They said their last two years at school was so boring, nothing but going over and over subjects for exams, every day was like groundhog day. There was no inspiration from teachers who were just as bored as the Kids they were suppose to be teaching. No wonder pupils just ended up bunking off school. The headmasters of this school, past and present have let so many pupils and parents down over the years.
Where on earth do you get that information from? Testwood does have a Music department for years 7, 8 and 11. Years 9+10 are focusing on BTEC which is why Music is not incorporated into their timetable. For any child wanting to pursue a musical career, there is a BTEC in Perfoming Arts. It seems that you are speaking second hand, The old story of I know someone who went there and they said.......
Solents, can you please indicate where in the report it says that:

"Ofsted rated the standard of teaching too with almost 25% of the observed lessons were outstanding with a high percentage rated as good and only 1 as requires improvement."

I have scoured the report and it clearly does NOT say that! All I can find is the mention that "Some" lessons in English (Only) are outstanding, which is not the same thing at all.

Someone is pulling the wool over your eyes, maybe..read the report instead of believing word of mouth.
It was clearly stated to us parents last night that approximately 25% of the lessons were rated as good. Why would Mr. Appleton lie? Maybe it's not in the report.
[quote][p][bold]S Pance[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]solomum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]deepheat[/bold] wrote: You can forget sending your child to this school if they have any ambition of being a musician. They don't have a music department or teachers that can teach music. I know someone that went to Testwood School. They said their last two years at school was so boring, nothing but going over and over subjects for exams, every day was like groundhog day. There was no inspiration from teachers who were just as bored as the Kids they were suppose to be teaching. No wonder pupils just ended up bunking off school. The headmasters of this school, past and present have let so many pupils and parents down over the years.[/p][/quote]Where on earth do you get that information from? Testwood does have a Music department for years 7, 8 and 11. Years 9+10 are focusing on BTEC which is why Music is not incorporated into their timetable. For any child wanting to pursue a musical career, there is a BTEC in Perfoming Arts. It seems that you are speaking second hand, The old story of I know someone who went there and they said.......[/p][/quote]Solents, can you please indicate where in the report it says that: "Ofsted rated the standard of teaching too with almost 25% of the observed lessons were outstanding with a high percentage rated as good and only 1 as requires improvement." I have scoured the report and it clearly does NOT say that! All I can find is the mention that "Some" lessons in English (Only) are outstanding, which is not the same thing at all. Someone is pulling the wool over your eyes, maybe..read the report instead of believing word of mouth.[/p][/quote]It was clearly stated to us parents last night that approximately 25% of the lessons were rated as good. Why would Mr. Appleton lie? Maybe it's not in the report. tony1kinobe
  • Score: 0

3:48pm Fri 14 Feb 14

Versuvious says...

This makes me laugh, i attended this school from 2000-06 and i could have told you this is long overdue. While i was at this school i witnessed a stabbing in the back of the field a drugs ring court, constant fighting, bullying was NOT dealt with, in many cases they would stick the bully AND the victim in the "learning support" room, and leave them un-attended which is a bacic invite to a death match.

Although, everything was not all bad... i mean, when the teachers COULD teach it was pretty good, but the whole place needs a serious look over on how they do things... as i believe some teachers are just pure lazy and do not teach, but throw a book at you and basically say "copy out of this"

But, with lacked discipline towards children these days no wonder school like Testwood that house a large amount of pupils cannot control them when you have to sign for your own detention and almost anything a parent does to punish they're child is classed as some form of "abuse"
This makes me laugh, i attended this school from 2000-06 and i could have told you this is long overdue. While i was at this school i witnessed a stabbing in the back of the field a drugs ring court, constant fighting, bullying was NOT dealt with, in many cases they would stick the bully AND the victim in the "learning support" room, and leave them un-attended which is a bacic invite to a death match. Although, everything was not all bad... i mean, when the teachers COULD teach it was pretty good, but the whole place needs a serious look over on how they do things... as i believe some teachers are just pure lazy and do not teach, but throw a book at you and basically say "copy out of this" But, with lacked discipline towards children these days no wonder school like Testwood that house a large amount of pupils cannot control them when you have to sign for your own detention and almost anything a parent does to punish they're child is classed as some form of "abuse" Versuvious
  • Score: 0

4:11pm Fri 14 Feb 14

solomum says...

Versuvious wrote:
This makes me laugh, i attended this school from 2000-06 and i could have told you this is long overdue. While i was at this school i witnessed a stabbing in the back of the field a drugs ring court, constant fighting, bullying was NOT dealt with, in many cases they would stick the bully AND the victim in the "learning support" room, and leave them un-attended which is a bacic invite to a death match.

Although, everything was not all bad... i mean, when the teachers COULD teach it was pretty good, but the whole place needs a serious look over on how they do things... as i believe some teachers are just pure lazy and do not teach, but throw a book at you and basically say "copy out of this"

But, with lacked discipline towards children these days no wonder school like Testwood that house a large amount of pupils cannot control them when you have to sign for your own detention and almost anything a parent does to punish they're child is classed as some form of "abuse"
What the school was like from 2000-2006 has no bearing on now. There was a different head teacher in place then and no doubt a lot of different staff too. This current Ofsted is a shock to a lot of people, BUT, it can only encourage improvements. If Ofsted were around when I was at school back in the 80's I dread to think how they would have rated the school I attended. In fact I left school with just CSE's rather than O levels, but that has not stopped me forging a good career for myself. I would not want to work in a school and I have utmost respect for those that do. Testwood has a wide mix of pupils and a challenging catchment area. I really do wish them well for the future and hope that pupils and parents alike will pull together to support the school.
[quote][p][bold]Versuvious[/bold] wrote: This makes me laugh, i attended this school from 2000-06 and i could have told you this is long overdue. While i was at this school i witnessed a stabbing in the back of the field a drugs ring court, constant fighting, bullying was NOT dealt with, in many cases they would stick the bully AND the victim in the "learning support" room, and leave them un-attended which is a bacic invite to a death match. Although, everything was not all bad... i mean, when the teachers COULD teach it was pretty good, but the whole place needs a serious look over on how they do things... as i believe some teachers are just pure lazy and do not teach, but throw a book at you and basically say "copy out of this" But, with lacked discipline towards children these days no wonder school like Testwood that house a large amount of pupils cannot control them when you have to sign for your own detention and almost anything a parent does to punish they're child is classed as some form of "abuse"[/p][/quote]What the school was like from 2000-2006 has no bearing on now. There was a different head teacher in place then and no doubt a lot of different staff too. This current Ofsted is a shock to a lot of people, BUT, it can only encourage improvements. If Ofsted were around when I was at school back in the 80's I dread to think how they would have rated the school I attended. In fact I left school with just CSE's rather than O levels, but that has not stopped me forging a good career for myself. I would not want to work in a school and I have utmost respect for those that do. Testwood has a wide mix of pupils and a challenging catchment area. I really do wish them well for the future and hope that pupils and parents alike will pull together to support the school. solomum
  • Score: 7

5:28pm Fri 14 Feb 14

S Pance says...

tonykinoble,

It was originally stated by someone else that Ofsted rated 25% of the lessons as "Outstanding". I checked the Ofsted report and they did not say this.

You are now telling me that 25% of lessons were rated "Good" by Ofsted, yet this is not mentioned in their report either.

In any event, even if 25% were good, that leaves 75% that were either Inadequate or needing improvement which is still an appallingly low figure, compared to other schools.

I'd surrest everyone READS the report and digests what Ofsted are saying.

Don't get me wrong, I sincerely wish the school the very best and hope they achieve at least a "good" real soon.

However, the school won't get better whilst people are blind to the problems that exist or try to kid themselves that the Ofsted was wrong. People need to accept the (fair) findings of the report, put things right and build on all the good things that go on at Testwood.

The longer people pretend that the school is currently good, the longer things will take.
tonykinoble, It was originally stated by someone else that Ofsted rated 25% of the lessons as "Outstanding". I checked the Ofsted report and they did not say this. You are now telling me that 25% of lessons were rated "Good" by Ofsted, yet this is not mentioned in their report either. In any event, even if 25% were good, that leaves 75% that were either Inadequate or needing improvement which is still an appallingly low figure, compared to other schools. I'd surrest everyone READS the report and digests what Ofsted are saying. Don't get me wrong, I sincerely wish the school the very best and hope they achieve at least a "good" real soon. However, the school won't get better whilst people are blind to the problems that exist or try to kid themselves that the Ofsted was wrong. People need to accept the (fair) findings of the report, put things right and build on all the good things that go on at Testwood. The longer people pretend that the school is currently good, the longer things will take. S Pance
  • Score: 1

5:31pm Fri 14 Feb 14

S Pance says...

solomum wrote:
Versuvious wrote:
This makes me laugh, i attended this school from 2000-06 and i could have told you this is long overdue. While i was at this school i witnessed a stabbing in the back of the field a drugs ring court, constant fighting, bullying was NOT dealt with, in many cases they would stick the bully AND the victim in the "learning support" room, and leave them un-attended which is a bacic invite to a death match.

Although, everything was not all bad... i mean, when the teachers COULD teach it was pretty good, but the whole place needs a serious look over on how they do things... as i believe some teachers are just pure lazy and do not teach, but throw a book at you and basically say "copy out of this"

But, with lacked discipline towards children these days no wonder school like Testwood that house a large amount of pupils cannot control them when you have to sign for your own detention and almost anything a parent does to punish they're child is classed as some form of "abuse"
What the school was like from 2000-2006 has no bearing on now. There was a different head teacher in place then and no doubt a lot of different staff too. This current Ofsted is a shock to a lot of people, BUT, it can only encourage improvements. If Ofsted were around when I was at school back in the 80's I dread to think how they would have rated the school I attended. In fact I left school with just CSE's rather than O levels, but that has not stopped me forging a good career for myself. I would not want to work in a school and I have utmost respect for those that do. Testwood has a wide mix of pupils and a challenging catchment area. I really do wish them well for the future and hope that pupils and parents alike will pull together to support the school.
Mr Appleton has been HT for nearly 20years.
[quote][p][bold]solomum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Versuvious[/bold] wrote: This makes me laugh, i attended this school from 2000-06 and i could have told you this is long overdue. While i was at this school i witnessed a stabbing in the back of the field a drugs ring court, constant fighting, bullying was NOT dealt with, in many cases they would stick the bully AND the victim in the "learning support" room, and leave them un-attended which is a bacic invite to a death match. Although, everything was not all bad... i mean, when the teachers COULD teach it was pretty good, but the whole place needs a serious look over on how they do things... as i believe some teachers are just pure lazy and do not teach, but throw a book at you and basically say "copy out of this" But, with lacked discipline towards children these days no wonder school like Testwood that house a large amount of pupils cannot control them when you have to sign for your own detention and almost anything a parent does to punish they're child is classed as some form of "abuse"[/p][/quote]What the school was like from 2000-2006 has no bearing on now. There was a different head teacher in place then and no doubt a lot of different staff too. This current Ofsted is a shock to a lot of people, BUT, it can only encourage improvements. If Ofsted were around when I was at school back in the 80's I dread to think how they would have rated the school I attended. In fact I left school with just CSE's rather than O levels, but that has not stopped me forging a good career for myself. I would not want to work in a school and I have utmost respect for those that do. Testwood has a wide mix of pupils and a challenging catchment area. I really do wish them well for the future and hope that pupils and parents alike will pull together to support the school.[/p][/quote]Mr Appleton has been HT for nearly 20years. S Pance
  • Score: -5

5:42pm Fri 14 Feb 14

insider1234 says...

Can I just correct one point here, there were 40 lessons observed and 11 were outstanding, and only 1 inadequate. Ofsted saw no poor behaviour and only commented on it from the results of a questionnaire. These I promise you are 100% true facts. There are a few points the school needs to work on and I am certain we will get to being a good school after the next set of GCSE results go back to where they were before. Support the school.
Can I just correct one point here, there were 40 lessons observed and 11 were outstanding, and only 1 inadequate. Ofsted saw no poor behaviour and only commented on it from the results of a questionnaire. These I promise you are 100% true facts. There are a few points the school needs to work on and I am certain we will get to being a good school after the next set of GCSE results go back to where they were before. Support the school. insider1234
  • Score: 8

6:20pm Fri 14 Feb 14

deepheat says...

solomum wrote:
deepheat wrote:
You can forget sending your child to this school if they have any ambition of being a musician. They don't have a music department or teachers that can teach music.
I know someone that went to Testwood School. They said their last two years at school was so boring, nothing but going over and over subjects for exams, every day was like groundhog day. There was no inspiration from teachers who were just as bored as the Kids they were suppose to be teaching. No wonder pupils just ended up bunking off school. The headmasters of this school, past and present have let so many pupils and parents down over the years.
Where on earth do you get that information from? Testwood does have a Music department for years 7, 8 and 11. Years 9+10 are focusing on BTEC which is why Music is not incorporated into their timetable. For any child wanting to pursue a musical career, there is a BTEC in Perfoming Arts. It seems that you are speaking second hand, The old story of I know someone who went there and they said.......
You are basically copy/pasting from the Testwood School website.

I read the report. Here is what it states.

"Leaders are aware that provision for music within the college remains an area for further development. Although a few students now learn to play an instrument and the ‘Rock challenge’ continues to attract many students, there is still insufficient focus on music both in terms of lessons and within the college overall".

I rest my case.
[quote][p][bold]solomum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]deepheat[/bold] wrote: You can forget sending your child to this school if they have any ambition of being a musician. They don't have a music department or teachers that can teach music. I know someone that went to Testwood School. They said their last two years at school was so boring, nothing but going over and over subjects for exams, every day was like groundhog day. There was no inspiration from teachers who were just as bored as the Kids they were suppose to be teaching. No wonder pupils just ended up bunking off school. The headmasters of this school, past and present have let so many pupils and parents down over the years.[/p][/quote]Where on earth do you get that information from? Testwood does have a Music department for years 7, 8 and 11. Years 9+10 are focusing on BTEC which is why Music is not incorporated into their timetable. For any child wanting to pursue a musical career, there is a BTEC in Perfoming Arts. It seems that you are speaking second hand, The old story of I know someone who went there and they said.......[/p][/quote]You are basically copy/pasting from the Testwood School website. I read the report. Here is what it states. "Leaders are aware that provision for music within the college remains an area for further development. Although a few students now learn to play an instrument and the ‘Rock challenge’ continues to attract many students, there is still insufficient focus on music both in terms of lessons and within the college overall". I rest my case. deepheat
  • Score: 1

6:20pm Fri 14 Feb 14

For pity sake says...

speakout19 wrote:
I was at the meeting. The school has been stagnant for at least 2 years. Pupils who enter above average (express) classes will do well if they are willing to learn. This is a small proportion of the yearly intake hence the low exam results. The problem lies with midstream pupils (development) whom are mixed together with children who are not interested in learning, have behaviour issues and are disrespectful to their peers.This causes major disruption to those children who want to learn. The teachers morale may be low? hence the lack of homework or marked feedback. In the past, Parents have contacted staff' but their concerns appear to be on deaf ears. The school needs to get tough, stand up for what it believes in and help those children in development whom are struggling to learn because of the ones who don't want too. Parents need to teach their children respect and what is acceptable behaviour out of the home!
http://www.grammarbo
ok.com/grammar/whovw
hom.asp

This may be of help.
[quote][p][bold]speakout19[/bold] wrote: I was at the meeting. The school has been stagnant for at least 2 years. Pupils who enter above average (express) classes will do well if they are willing to learn. This is a small proportion of the yearly intake hence the low exam results. The problem lies with midstream pupils (development) whom are mixed together with children who are not interested in learning, have behaviour issues and are disrespectful to their peers.This causes major disruption to those children who want to learn. The teachers morale may be low? hence the lack of homework or marked feedback. In the past, Parents have contacted staff' but their concerns appear to be on deaf ears. The school needs to get tough, stand up for what it believes in and help those children in development whom are struggling to learn because of the ones who don't want too. Parents need to teach their children respect and what is acceptable behaviour out of the home![/p][/quote]http://www.grammarbo ok.com/grammar/whovw hom.asp This may be of help. For pity sake
  • Score: -1

6:28pm Fri 14 Feb 14

solomum says...

S Pance wrote:
solomum wrote:
Versuvious wrote:
This makes me laugh, i attended this school from 2000-06 and i could have told you this is long overdue. While i was at this school i witnessed a stabbing in the back of the field a drugs ring court, constant fighting, bullying was NOT dealt with, in many cases they would stick the bully AND the victim in the "learning support" room, and leave them un-attended which is a bacic invite to a death match.

Although, everything was not all bad... i mean, when the teachers COULD teach it was pretty good, but the whole place needs a serious look over on how they do things... as i believe some teachers are just pure lazy and do not teach, but throw a book at you and basically say "copy out of this"

But, with lacked discipline towards children these days no wonder school like Testwood that house a large amount of pupils cannot control them when you have to sign for your own detention and almost anything a parent does to punish they're child is classed as some form of "abuse"
What the school was like from 2000-2006 has no bearing on now. There was a different head teacher in place then and no doubt a lot of different staff too. This current Ofsted is a shock to a lot of people, BUT, it can only encourage improvements. If Ofsted were around when I was at school back in the 80's I dread to think how they would have rated the school I attended. In fact I left school with just CSE's rather than O levels, but that has not stopped me forging a good career for myself. I would not want to work in a school and I have utmost respect for those that do. Testwood has a wide mix of pupils and a challenging catchment area. I really do wish them well for the future and hope that pupils and parents alike will pull together to support the school.
Mr Appleton has been HT for nearly 20years.
Mr Appleton has definitely not been headteacher for 20 yrs. There was a female head there back in the early 2000's .
[quote][p][bold]S Pance[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]solomum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Versuvious[/bold] wrote: This makes me laugh, i attended this school from 2000-06 and i could have told you this is long overdue. While i was at this school i witnessed a stabbing in the back of the field a drugs ring court, constant fighting, bullying was NOT dealt with, in many cases they would stick the bully AND the victim in the "learning support" room, and leave them un-attended which is a bacic invite to a death match. Although, everything was not all bad... i mean, when the teachers COULD teach it was pretty good, but the whole place needs a serious look over on how they do things... as i believe some teachers are just pure lazy and do not teach, but throw a book at you and basically say "copy out of this" But, with lacked discipline towards children these days no wonder school like Testwood that house a large amount of pupils cannot control them when you have to sign for your own detention and almost anything a parent does to punish they're child is classed as some form of "abuse"[/p][/quote]What the school was like from 2000-2006 has no bearing on now. There was a different head teacher in place then and no doubt a lot of different staff too. This current Ofsted is a shock to a lot of people, BUT, it can only encourage improvements. If Ofsted were around when I was at school back in the 80's I dread to think how they would have rated the school I attended. In fact I left school with just CSE's rather than O levels, but that has not stopped me forging a good career for myself. I would not want to work in a school and I have utmost respect for those that do. Testwood has a wide mix of pupils and a challenging catchment area. I really do wish them well for the future and hope that pupils and parents alike will pull together to support the school.[/p][/quote]Mr Appleton has been HT for nearly 20years.[/p][/quote]Mr Appleton has definitely not been headteacher for 20 yrs. There was a female head there back in the early 2000's . solomum
  • Score: 1

6:31pm Fri 14 Feb 14

Em1996 says...

I left the school in 2012 and came away with great results and have been successful since, and this is all thanks to the teachers who made every effort possible to get me through the exams by offering fantastic support.

To blame this all on the teachers is ridiculous, a huge majority of the students are not willing to learn and disrupt those who do, they take up teachers time giving them less chance to actually teach.

I had a great time at Testwood and I am very thankful for my time there and the opportunities I had through the school and the opportunities I've had since. Now is the time to support Testwood not moan about it.
I left the school in 2012 and came away with great results and have been successful since, and this is all thanks to the teachers who made every effort possible to get me through the exams by offering fantastic support. To blame this all on the teachers is ridiculous, a huge majority of the students are not willing to learn and disrupt those who do, they take up teachers time giving them less chance to actually teach. I had a great time at Testwood and I am very thankful for my time there and the opportunities I had through the school and the opportunities I've had since. Now is the time to support Testwood not moan about it. Em1996
  • Score: 14

6:41pm Fri 14 Feb 14

solomum says...

deepheat wrote:
solomum wrote:
deepheat wrote:
You can forget sending your child to this school if they have any ambition of being a musician. They don't have a music department or teachers that can teach music.
I know someone that went to Testwood School. They said their last two years at school was so boring, nothing but going over and over subjects for exams, every day was like groundhog day. There was no inspiration from teachers who were just as bored as the Kids they were suppose to be teaching. No wonder pupils just ended up bunking off school. The headmasters of this school, past and present have let so many pupils and parents down over the years.
Where on earth do you get that information from? Testwood does have a Music department for years 7, 8 and 11. Years 9+10 are focusing on BTEC which is why Music is not incorporated into their timetable. For any child wanting to pursue a musical career, there is a BTEC in Perfoming Arts. It seems that you are speaking second hand, The old story of I know someone who went there and they said.......
You are basically copy/pasting from the Testwood School website.

I read the report. Here is what it states.

"Leaders are aware that provision for music within the college remains an area for further development. Although a few students now learn to play an instrument and the ‘Rock challenge’ continues to attract many students, there is still insufficient focus on music both in terms of lessons and within the college overall".

I rest my case.
I did not get any info from the website, but from my knowledge as a parent of a pupil at this school. You stated that the school does not have a Music department. That is incorrect, which I know as I have helped my child with their Music homework. As my child is currently in year 9, they are not doing Music at the moment, and we were told at the BTEC evening that this would be incorporated into Performing Arts. I guess you have no children at this school and are basing your opinions on what you have heard from other parents. Interestingly prior to my child attending Testwood, I had heard what a terrible school it was and was loathed to send my child there. All the bad reports I had heard were from parents who had not have children go through the school. Thankfully my fears did not come to fruition and my child is happy and doing well at the school. Also anyone with particular career aspirations, surely would look beyond school at what other experience they could obtain. How many pupils are actually likely to want to become musicians? It seems you have picked up on one area of the report and made that your focus to attack.
[quote][p][bold]deepheat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]solomum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]deepheat[/bold] wrote: You can forget sending your child to this school if they have any ambition of being a musician. They don't have a music department or teachers that can teach music. I know someone that went to Testwood School. They said their last two years at school was so boring, nothing but going over and over subjects for exams, every day was like groundhog day. There was no inspiration from teachers who were just as bored as the Kids they were suppose to be teaching. No wonder pupils just ended up bunking off school. The headmasters of this school, past and present have let so many pupils and parents down over the years.[/p][/quote]Where on earth do you get that information from? Testwood does have a Music department for years 7, 8 and 11. Years 9+10 are focusing on BTEC which is why Music is not incorporated into their timetable. For any child wanting to pursue a musical career, there is a BTEC in Perfoming Arts. It seems that you are speaking second hand, The old story of I know someone who went there and they said.......[/p][/quote]You are basically copy/pasting from the Testwood School website. I read the report. Here is what it states. "Leaders are aware that provision for music within the college remains an area for further development. Although a few students now learn to play an instrument and the ‘Rock challenge’ continues to attract many students, there is still insufficient focus on music both in terms of lessons and within the college overall". I rest my case.[/p][/quote]I did not get any info from the website, but from my knowledge as a parent of a pupil at this school. You stated that the school does not have a Music department. That is incorrect, which I know as I have helped my child with their Music homework. As my child is currently in year 9, they are not doing Music at the moment, and we were told at the BTEC evening that this would be incorporated into Performing Arts. I guess you have no children at this school and are basing your opinions on what you have heard from other parents. Interestingly prior to my child attending Testwood, I had heard what a terrible school it was and was loathed to send my child there. All the bad reports I had heard were from parents who had not have children go through the school. Thankfully my fears did not come to fruition and my child is happy and doing well at the school. Also anyone with particular career aspirations, surely would look beyond school at what other experience they could obtain. How many pupils are actually likely to want to become musicians? It seems you have picked up on one area of the report and made that your focus to attack. solomum
  • Score: -9

7:05pm Fri 14 Feb 14

deepheat says...

solomum wrote:
deepheat wrote:
solomum wrote:
deepheat wrote:
You can forget sending your child to this school if they have any ambition of being a musician. They don't have a music department or teachers that can teach music.
I know someone that went to Testwood School. They said their last two years at school was so boring, nothing but going over and over subjects for exams, every day was like groundhog day. There was no inspiration from teachers who were just as bored as the Kids they were suppose to be teaching. No wonder pupils just ended up bunking off school. The headmasters of this school, past and present have let so many pupils and parents down over the years.
Where on earth do you get that information from? Testwood does have a Music department for years 7, 8 and 11. Years 9+10 are focusing on BTEC which is why Music is not incorporated into their timetable. For any child wanting to pursue a musical career, there is a BTEC in Perfoming Arts. It seems that you are speaking second hand, The old story of I know someone who went there and they said.......
You are basically copy/pasting from the Testwood School website.

I read the report. Here is what it states.

"Leaders are aware that provision for music within the college remains an area for further development. Although a few students now learn to play an instrument and the ‘Rock challenge’ continues to attract many students, there is still insufficient focus on music both in terms of lessons and within the college overall".

I rest my case.
I did not get any info from the website, but from my knowledge as a parent of a pupil at this school. You stated that the school does not have a Music department. That is incorrect, which I know as I have helped my child with their Music homework. As my child is currently in year 9, they are not doing Music at the moment, and we were told at the BTEC evening that this would be incorporated into Performing Arts. I guess you have no children at this school and are basing your opinions on what you have heard from other parents. Interestingly prior to my child attending Testwood, I had heard what a terrible school it was and was loathed to send my child there. All the bad reports I had heard were from parents who had not have children go through the school. Thankfully my fears did not come to fruition and my child is happy and doing well at the school. Also anyone with particular career aspirations, surely would look beyond school at what other experience they could obtain. How many pupils are actually likely to want to become musicians? It seems you have picked up on one area of the report and made that your focus to attack.
The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

You asked. " How many pupils are actually likely to want to become musicians?"

Well none from Testwood obviously.
[quote][p][bold]solomum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]deepheat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]solomum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]deepheat[/bold] wrote: You can forget sending your child to this school if they have any ambition of being a musician. They don't have a music department or teachers that can teach music. I know someone that went to Testwood School. They said their last two years at school was so boring, nothing but going over and over subjects for exams, every day was like groundhog day. There was no inspiration from teachers who were just as bored as the Kids they were suppose to be teaching. No wonder pupils just ended up bunking off school. The headmasters of this school, past and present have let so many pupils and parents down over the years.[/p][/quote]Where on earth do you get that information from? Testwood does have a Music department for years 7, 8 and 11. Years 9+10 are focusing on BTEC which is why Music is not incorporated into their timetable. For any child wanting to pursue a musical career, there is a BTEC in Perfoming Arts. It seems that you are speaking second hand, The old story of I know someone who went there and they said.......[/p][/quote]You are basically copy/pasting from the Testwood School website. I read the report. Here is what it states. "Leaders are aware that provision for music within the college remains an area for further development. Although a few students now learn to play an instrument and the ‘Rock challenge’ continues to attract many students, there is still insufficient focus on music both in terms of lessons and within the college overall". I rest my case.[/p][/quote]I did not get any info from the website, but from my knowledge as a parent of a pupil at this school. You stated that the school does not have a Music department. That is incorrect, which I know as I have helped my child with their Music homework. As my child is currently in year 9, they are not doing Music at the moment, and we were told at the BTEC evening that this would be incorporated into Performing Arts. I guess you have no children at this school and are basing your opinions on what you have heard from other parents. Interestingly prior to my child attending Testwood, I had heard what a terrible school it was and was loathed to send my child there. All the bad reports I had heard were from parents who had not have children go through the school. Thankfully my fears did not come to fruition and my child is happy and doing well at the school. Also anyone with particular career aspirations, surely would look beyond school at what other experience they could obtain. How many pupils are actually likely to want to become musicians? It seems you have picked up on one area of the report and made that your focus to attack.[/p][/quote]The lady doth protest too much, methinks. You asked. " How many pupils are actually likely to want to become musicians?" Well none from Testwood obviously. deepheat
  • Score: 13

7:16pm Fri 14 Feb 14

eurogordi says...

I have known Testwood School/Sports College for almost 20 years and in three different capacities. During that time the school has deteriorated and, in particular, under the headship of Mr Appleton.

PROFESSIONAL - although not employed by the school, I was required to visit in a professional capacity on a regular basis from 1998 to 2012. Mrs Capsomidis was the first head I encountered and I always found her firm but fair. However, this made her unpopular with staff and parents who did not like the discipline that she sought to impose on pupils. She was also chosen for a government experiment that saw Bulgarian teachers employed at the school. When this backfired, Mrs Capsomidis became a local scapegoat for decisions that had been taken in Whitehall. Sadly this sealed her fate at the school and she eventually became the victim of a campaign to oust her from the school. This campaign was led by a former History teacher who has since retired and the then deputy head, Mr Appleton.

PARENT - My children have also attended this school, the first being there at the same time as Mrs Capsomidis. When there was a bullying situation involving my child, Mrs Capsomidis dealt with the matter both quickly and efficiently. I have every respect for her leadership. My next child started at the school with Mrs Capsomidis but left under Mr Appleton. I noticed that behaviour was starting to become a major issue, but nothing prepared me for when my youngest child started under Mr Appleton and also found herself the victim of bullying. Despite speaking to the school almost daily at one point, despite physical injury caused by the bullies and despite witnesses being prepared to name the bullies, Mr Appleton buried his head in the sand claiming that there was no bullying in the school. There was also an Ofsted inspection at this time, and Mr Appleton even wrote to the bullies' parents requesting that they did not go to school when the inspectors were present. I spoke to the Chair of Governors who, like Mr Appleton, also failed to address my concerns and so I had no choice but to go to the Local Education Authority. Within days of contacting the LEA, Mr Appleton was beginning to take action to resolve the matter, although an apology was never received.

RESIDENT - Living within sight of the school, I have seen and heard inappropriate behaviour coming from within the school grounds. None of the staff seem able or willing to challenge inappropriate behaviour and I was only thankful that my children had left by this time. Following incidents of vandalism in which the Police were involved, Mr Appleton failed to take any action until an object was thrown by a pupil through a residential window narrowly missing the occupant. I was part of a residents delegation at the time and I was never entirely sure if Mr Appleton was arrogant or just disinterested.

I feel sorry for Mr Appleton in that his career is ending on such a low point, but equally I do not think that he has succeeded as a headteacher and should probably have never been appointed to that role within a school where he had been deputy. He is not a particularly strong person in my opinion and, while he may have been a good teacher in his younger days, this was not something I have witnessed in my own association with the school.

I agree with some of the comments that say schools cannot be responsible for the actions of its pupils, but this is also the reason why a strong head such as Mrs Capsomidis should be in post. Some pupils may have been scared of her, but that was good in many ways. My eldest child reminds me that, even when she was there, no one had any respect for her deputy, Mr Appleton, who was frequently referred to as one of the Chuckle Brothers!
I have known Testwood School/Sports College for almost 20 years and in three different capacities. During that time the school has deteriorated and, in particular, under the headship of Mr Appleton. PROFESSIONAL - although not employed by the school, I was required to visit in a professional capacity on a regular basis from 1998 to 2012. Mrs Capsomidis was the first head I encountered and I always found her firm but fair. However, this made her unpopular with staff and parents who did not like the discipline that she sought to impose on pupils. She was also chosen for a government experiment that saw Bulgarian teachers employed at the school. When this backfired, Mrs Capsomidis became a local scapegoat for decisions that had been taken in Whitehall. Sadly this sealed her fate at the school and she eventually became the victim of a campaign to oust her from the school. This campaign was led by a former History teacher who has since retired and the then deputy head, Mr Appleton. PARENT - My children have also attended this school, the first being there at the same time as Mrs Capsomidis. When there was a bullying situation involving my child, Mrs Capsomidis dealt with the matter both quickly and efficiently. I have every respect for her leadership. My next child started at the school with Mrs Capsomidis but left under Mr Appleton. I noticed that behaviour was starting to become a major issue, but nothing prepared me for when my youngest child started under Mr Appleton and also found herself the victim of bullying. Despite speaking to the school almost daily at one point, despite physical injury caused by the bullies and despite witnesses being prepared to name the bullies, Mr Appleton buried his head in the sand claiming that there was no bullying in the school. There was also an Ofsted inspection at this time, and Mr Appleton even wrote to the bullies' parents requesting that they did not go to school when the inspectors were present. I spoke to the Chair of Governors who, like Mr Appleton, also failed to address my concerns and so I had no choice but to go to the Local Education Authority. Within days of contacting the LEA, Mr Appleton was beginning to take action to resolve the matter, although an apology was never received. RESIDENT - Living within sight of the school, I have seen and heard inappropriate behaviour coming from within the school grounds. None of the staff seem able or willing to challenge inappropriate behaviour and I was only thankful that my children had left by this time. Following incidents of vandalism in which the Police were involved, Mr Appleton failed to take any action until an object was thrown by a pupil through a residential window narrowly missing the occupant. I was part of a residents delegation at the time and I was never entirely sure if Mr Appleton was arrogant or just disinterested. I feel sorry for Mr Appleton in that his career is ending on such a low point, but equally I do not think that he has succeeded as a headteacher and should probably have never been appointed to that role within a school where he had been deputy. He is not a particularly strong person in my opinion and, while he may have been a good teacher in his younger days, this was not something I have witnessed in my own association with the school. I agree with some of the comments that say schools cannot be responsible for the actions of its pupils, but this is also the reason why a strong head such as Mrs Capsomidis should be in post. Some pupils may have been scared of her, but that was good in many ways. My eldest child reminds me that, even when she was there, no one had any respect for her deputy, Mr Appleton, who was frequently referred to as one of the Chuckle Brothers! eurogordi
  • Score: 8

8:29pm Fri 14 Feb 14

totton_lad says...

S Pance wrote:
solomum wrote:
Versuvious wrote:
This makes me laugh, i attended this school from 2000-06 and i could have told you this is long overdue. While i was at this school i witnessed a stabbing in the back of the field a drugs ring court, constant fighting, bullying was NOT dealt with, in many cases they would stick the bully AND the victim in the "learning support" room, and leave them un-attended which is a bacic invite to a death match.

Although, everything was not all bad... i mean, when the teachers COULD teach it was pretty good, but the whole place needs a serious look over on how they do things... as i believe some teachers are just pure lazy and do not teach, but throw a book at you and basically say "copy out of this"

But, with lacked discipline towards children these days no wonder school like Testwood that house a large amount of pupils cannot control them when you have to sign for your own detention and almost anything a parent does to punish they're child is classed as some form of "abuse"
What the school was like from 2000-2006 has no bearing on now. There was a different head teacher in place then and no doubt a lot of different staff too. This current Ofsted is a shock to a lot of people, BUT, it can only encourage improvements. If Ofsted were around when I was at school back in the 80's I dread to think how they would have rated the school I attended. In fact I left school with just CSE's rather than O levels, but that has not stopped me forging a good career for myself. I would not want to work in a school and I have utmost respect for those that do. Testwood has a wide mix of pupils and a challenging catchment area. I really do wish them well for the future and hope that pupils and parents alike will pull together to support the school.
Mr Appleton has been HT for nearly 20years.
He has only been head for 11 years!
[quote][p][bold]S Pance[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]solomum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Versuvious[/bold] wrote: This makes me laugh, i attended this school from 2000-06 and i could have told you this is long overdue. While i was at this school i witnessed a stabbing in the back of the field a drugs ring court, constant fighting, bullying was NOT dealt with, in many cases they would stick the bully AND the victim in the "learning support" room, and leave them un-attended which is a bacic invite to a death match. Although, everything was not all bad... i mean, when the teachers COULD teach it was pretty good, but the whole place needs a serious look over on how they do things... as i believe some teachers are just pure lazy and do not teach, but throw a book at you and basically say "copy out of this" But, with lacked discipline towards children these days no wonder school like Testwood that house a large amount of pupils cannot control them when you have to sign for your own detention and almost anything a parent does to punish they're child is classed as some form of "abuse"[/p][/quote]What the school was like from 2000-2006 has no bearing on now. There was a different head teacher in place then and no doubt a lot of different staff too. This current Ofsted is a shock to a lot of people, BUT, it can only encourage improvements. If Ofsted were around when I was at school back in the 80's I dread to think how they would have rated the school I attended. In fact I left school with just CSE's rather than O levels, but that has not stopped me forging a good career for myself. I would not want to work in a school and I have utmost respect for those that do. Testwood has a wide mix of pupils and a challenging catchment area. I really do wish them well for the future and hope that pupils and parents alike will pull together to support the school.[/p][/quote]Mr Appleton has been HT for nearly 20years.[/p][/quote]He has only been head for 11 years! totton_lad
  • Score: 2

9:28pm Fri 14 Feb 14

Peters567 says...

I'm sure that he said he'd been in the job at Testwood 19 years.

Still, it was a pretty lively meeting it must be said, with one parent storming out annoyed at what Appy had said.

Why has this school failed? The blame must lie with Appy and the rest of the management team.

As Appy himself said, there are teenagers out there who have lost places at colledge because of this. Just a pity that Appy didn't want to accept any of the blame nor apologise for the state of affairs but instead seemed to be blaming things on the pupils and (ex) head of English!
I'm sure that he said he'd been in the job at Testwood 19 years. Still, it was a pretty lively meeting it must be said, with one parent storming out annoyed at what Appy had said. Why has this school failed? The blame must lie with Appy and the rest of the management team. As Appy himself said, there are teenagers out there who have lost places at colledge because of this. Just a pity that Appy didn't want to accept any of the blame nor apologise for the state of affairs but instead seemed to be blaming things on the pupils and (ex) head of English! Peters567
  • Score: 1

9:46pm Fri 14 Feb 14

Peters567 says...

I find it absolutely incredible that Appy wrote to parents of a badly behaved pupil, asking him to stay at home while Ofsted visited!?

Is this true, eurogordi?! If it is, I feel that Ofsted/the LEA should be informed.

For me, that action alone explains why the school is in special measures.
I find it absolutely incredible that Appy wrote to parents of a badly behaved pupil, asking him to stay at home while Ofsted visited!? Is this true, eurogordi?! If it is, I feel that Ofsted/the LEA should be informed. For me, that action alone explains why the school is in special measures. Peters567
  • Score: 1

9:52pm Fri 14 Feb 14

totton_lad says...

Peters567 wrote:
I'm sure that he said he'd been in the job at Testwood 19 years.

Still, it was a pretty lively meeting it must be said, with one parent storming out annoyed at what Appy had said.

Why has this school failed? The blame must lie with Appy and the rest of the management team.

As Appy himself said, there are teenagers out there who have lost places at colledge because of this. Just a pity that Appy didn't want to accept any of the blame nor apologise for the state of affairs but instead seemed to be blaming things on the pupils and (ex) head of English!
Yes he has been at Testwood for 19 but only as Head for about 11.years.

Read the overall GCSE figures 5A*-C = 79% - above national average!!!

I repeat what he said last night that the problem was with the English results - in fact all schools went down due to the changes that Mr Gove has done recently without thinking of the consequences. Testwood went down a lot more because of a weak cohort of mostly boys at the bottom end of the middle ability band who some should have just made 'C' but went to 'D' - included in this number were some who were expected to make a 'C' but again dropped to 'D' You sound a bit like the people around at the moment who blame the authorities for all the bad weather we have had! Would you expect the Prime Minister to apologise for the wind and the rain?
[quote][p][bold]Peters567[/bold] wrote: I'm sure that he said he'd been in the job at Testwood 19 years. Still, it was a pretty lively meeting it must be said, with one parent storming out annoyed at what Appy had said. Why has this school failed? The blame must lie with Appy and the rest of the management team. As Appy himself said, there are teenagers out there who have lost places at colledge because of this. Just a pity that Appy didn't want to accept any of the blame nor apologise for the state of affairs but instead seemed to be blaming things on the pupils and (ex) head of English![/p][/quote]Yes he has been at Testwood for 19 but only as Head for about 11.years. Read the overall GCSE figures 5A*-C = 79% - above national average!!! I repeat what he said last night that the problem was with the English results - in fact all schools went down due to the changes that Mr Gove has done recently without thinking of the consequences. Testwood went down a lot more because of a weak cohort of mostly boys at the bottom end of the middle ability band who some should have just made 'C' but went to 'D' - included in this number were some who were expected to make a 'C' but again dropped to 'D' You sound a bit like the people around at the moment who blame the authorities for all the bad weather we have had! Would you expect the Prime Minister to apologise for the wind and the rain? totton_lad
  • Score: 2

10:04pm Fri 14 Feb 14

totton_lad says...

eurogordi wrote:
I have known Testwood School/Sports College for almost 20 years and in three different capacities. During that time the school has deteriorated and, in particular, under the headship of Mr Appleton.

PROFESSIONAL - although not employed by the school, I was required to visit in a professional capacity on a regular basis from 1998 to 2012. Mrs Capsomidis was the first head I encountered and I always found her firm but fair. However, this made her unpopular with staff and parents who did not like the discipline that she sought to impose on pupils. She was also chosen for a government experiment that saw Bulgarian teachers employed at the school. When this backfired, Mrs Capsomidis became a local scapegoat for decisions that had been taken in Whitehall. Sadly this sealed her fate at the school and she eventually became the victim of a campaign to oust her from the school. This campaign was led by a former History teacher who has since retired and the then deputy head, Mr Appleton.

PARENT - My children have also attended this school, the first being there at the same time as Mrs Capsomidis. When there was a bullying situation involving my child, Mrs Capsomidis dealt with the matter both quickly and efficiently. I have every respect for her leadership. My next child started at the school with Mrs Capsomidis but left under Mr Appleton. I noticed that behaviour was starting to become a major issue, but nothing prepared me for when my youngest child started under Mr Appleton and also found herself the victim of bullying. Despite speaking to the school almost daily at one point, despite physical injury caused by the bullies and despite witnesses being prepared to name the bullies, Mr Appleton buried his head in the sand claiming that there was no bullying in the school. There was also an Ofsted inspection at this time, and Mr Appleton even wrote to the bullies' parents requesting that they did not go to school when the inspectors were present. I spoke to the Chair of Governors who, like Mr Appleton, also failed to address my concerns and so I had no choice but to go to the Local Education Authority. Within days of contacting the LEA, Mr Appleton was beginning to take action to resolve the matter, although an apology was never received.

RESIDENT - Living within sight of the school, I have seen and heard inappropriate behaviour coming from within the school grounds. None of the staff seem able or willing to challenge inappropriate behaviour and I was only thankful that my children had left by this time. Following incidents of vandalism in which the Police were involved, Mr Appleton failed to take any action until an object was thrown by a pupil through a residential window narrowly missing the occupant. I was part of a residents delegation at the time and I was never entirely sure if Mr Appleton was arrogant or just disinterested.

I feel sorry for Mr Appleton in that his career is ending on such a low point, but equally I do not think that he has succeeded as a headteacher and should probably have never been appointed to that role within a school where he had been deputy. He is not a particularly strong person in my opinion and, while he may have been a good teacher in his younger days, this was not something I have witnessed in my own association with the school.

I agree with some of the comments that say schools cannot be responsible for the actions of its pupils, but this is also the reason why a strong head such as Mrs Capsomidis should be in post. Some pupils may have been scared of her, but that was good in many ways. My eldest child reminds me that, even when she was there, no one had any respect for her deputy, Mr Appleton, who was frequently referred to as one of the Chuckle Brothers!
Cut and paste from the Ofsted report:

Ofsted 21st April 2005

The school was last inspected in autumn 1999. While it was identified then as a good school ,leadership and management were indicated as needing some improvement. This improvement did not take place and the school went through a very unstable period up to 2002. Since the last inspection, improvement has not been sufficient, as reflected in the now satisfactory standards and quality compared with the good standards and quality found then. However, improvement since the low point in 2002 has been at least satisfactory. Staffing is again stable…


Ofsted 12–13 March 2008

The headteacher provides good leadership. He is well supported by senior leaders and middle managers, and together they have a good understanding of the college's strengths and priorities for development provided by effective monitoring and self-evaluation. As a result, the whole college has a clear strategic direction that is successfully driving improvement. In particular, leaders at all levels have focused on raising students' standards and achievement and on improving the quality of teaching and learning. In 2007, this resulted in significant improvement in GCSE examination results compared with recent years, with the percentage of students achieving five or more A* to C grades at GCSE including English and mathematics very close to the national average. Standards at both Key Stage 3 and Key Stage 4 are now average and achievement is satisfactory.

Ofsted 3 4 Nov 2010

The sustained trend of improvement in key outcomes demonstrates that senior leaders and the governing body are effective in driving and securing improvement.
They are supported well by most middle leaders, although some curriculum leadership is still only satisfactory. The school uses progress data well to inform self evaluation, set challenging targets, and identify and plan interventions to improve the quality of the teaching and provision. Each senior leader’s oversight of particular curriculum areas and a year group ensures that all aspects of students’ personal and academic development are monitored carefully. Good attention is given to ensuring good equality of opportunity for all students. Internal exclusions are analysed carefully to identify individual or groups of students that could be a cause for concern.

End of quotes

I leave you to decide which head has made the most progress and moved the school on?
[quote][p][bold]eurogordi[/bold] wrote: I have known Testwood School/Sports College for almost 20 years and in three different capacities. During that time the school has deteriorated and, in particular, under the headship of Mr Appleton. PROFESSIONAL - although not employed by the school, I was required to visit in a professional capacity on a regular basis from 1998 to 2012. Mrs Capsomidis was the first head I encountered and I always found her firm but fair. However, this made her unpopular with staff and parents who did not like the discipline that she sought to impose on pupils. She was also chosen for a government experiment that saw Bulgarian teachers employed at the school. When this backfired, Mrs Capsomidis became a local scapegoat for decisions that had been taken in Whitehall. Sadly this sealed her fate at the school and she eventually became the victim of a campaign to oust her from the school. This campaign was led by a former History teacher who has since retired and the then deputy head, Mr Appleton. PARENT - My children have also attended this school, the first being there at the same time as Mrs Capsomidis. When there was a bullying situation involving my child, Mrs Capsomidis dealt with the matter both quickly and efficiently. I have every respect for her leadership. My next child started at the school with Mrs Capsomidis but left under Mr Appleton. I noticed that behaviour was starting to become a major issue, but nothing prepared me for when my youngest child started under Mr Appleton and also found herself the victim of bullying. Despite speaking to the school almost daily at one point, despite physical injury caused by the bullies and despite witnesses being prepared to name the bullies, Mr Appleton buried his head in the sand claiming that there was no bullying in the school. There was also an Ofsted inspection at this time, and Mr Appleton even wrote to the bullies' parents requesting that they did not go to school when the inspectors were present. I spoke to the Chair of Governors who, like Mr Appleton, also failed to address my concerns and so I had no choice but to go to the Local Education Authority. Within days of contacting the LEA, Mr Appleton was beginning to take action to resolve the matter, although an apology was never received. RESIDENT - Living within sight of the school, I have seen and heard inappropriate behaviour coming from within the school grounds. None of the staff seem able or willing to challenge inappropriate behaviour and I was only thankful that my children had left by this time. Following incidents of vandalism in which the Police were involved, Mr Appleton failed to take any action until an object was thrown by a pupil through a residential window narrowly missing the occupant. I was part of a residents delegation at the time and I was never entirely sure if Mr Appleton was arrogant or just disinterested. I feel sorry for Mr Appleton in that his career is ending on such a low point, but equally I do not think that he has succeeded as a headteacher and should probably have never been appointed to that role within a school where he had been deputy. He is not a particularly strong person in my opinion and, while he may have been a good teacher in his younger days, this was not something I have witnessed in my own association with the school. I agree with some of the comments that say schools cannot be responsible for the actions of its pupils, but this is also the reason why a strong head such as Mrs Capsomidis should be in post. Some pupils may have been scared of her, but that was good in many ways. My eldest child reminds me that, even when she was there, no one had any respect for her deputy, Mr Appleton, who was frequently referred to as one of the Chuckle Brothers![/p][/quote]Cut and paste from the Ofsted report: Ofsted 21st April 2005 The school was last inspected in autumn 1999. While it was identified then as a good school ,leadership and management were indicated as needing some improvement. This improvement did not take place and the school went through a very unstable period up to 2002. Since the last inspection, improvement has not been sufficient, as reflected in the now satisfactory standards and quality compared with the good standards and quality found then. However, improvement since the low point in 2002 has been at least satisfactory. Staffing is again stable… Ofsted 12–13 March 2008 The headteacher provides good leadership. He is well supported by senior leaders and middle managers, and together they have a good understanding of the college's strengths and priorities for development provided by effective monitoring and self-evaluation. As a result, the whole college has a clear strategic direction that is successfully driving improvement. In particular, leaders at all levels have focused on raising students' standards and achievement and on improving the quality of teaching and learning. In 2007, this resulted in significant improvement in GCSE examination results compared with recent years, with the percentage of students achieving five or more A* to C grades at GCSE including English and mathematics very close to the national average. Standards at both Key Stage 3 and Key Stage 4 are now average and achievement is satisfactory. Ofsted 3 4 Nov 2010 The sustained trend of improvement in key outcomes demonstrates that senior leaders and the governing body are effective in driving and securing improvement. They are supported well by most middle leaders, although some curriculum leadership is still only satisfactory. The school uses progress data well to inform self evaluation, set challenging targets, and identify and plan interventions to improve the quality of the teaching and provision. Each senior leader’s oversight of particular curriculum areas and a year group ensures that all aspects of students’ personal and academic development are monitored carefully. Good attention is given to ensuring good equality of opportunity for all students. Internal exclusions are analysed carefully to identify individual or groups of students that could be a cause for concern. End of quotes I leave you to decide which head has made the most progress and moved the school on? totton_lad
  • Score: 5

10:20pm Fri 14 Feb 14

totton_lad says...

Peters567 wrote:
I find it absolutely incredible that Appy wrote to parents of a badly behaved pupil, asking him to stay at home while Ofsted visited!?

Is this true, eurogordi?! If it is, I feel that Ofsted/the LEA should be informed.

For me, that action alone explains why the school is in special measures.
Read his comment:
" There was also an Ofsted inspection at this time, and Mr Appleton even wrote to the bullies' parents requesting that they did not go to school when the inspectors were present. "

At this time - when? 2005 or 2008 or 2010. It's a bit late to complain about it now! The school is an academy and not under the control of the LA, the DfE yes.
[quote][p][bold]Peters567[/bold] wrote: I find it absolutely incredible that Appy wrote to parents of a badly behaved pupil, asking him to stay at home while Ofsted visited!? Is this true, eurogordi?! If it is, I feel that Ofsted/the LEA should be informed. For me, that action alone explains why the school is in special measures.[/p][/quote]Read his comment: " There was also an Ofsted inspection at this time, and Mr Appleton even wrote to the bullies' parents requesting that they did not go to school when the inspectors were present. " At this time - when? 2005 or 2008 or 2010. It's a bit late to complain about it now! The school is an academy and not under the control of the LA, the DfE yes. totton_lad
  • Score: 0

10:30pm Fri 14 Feb 14

totton_lad says...

Em1996 wrote:
I left the school in 2012 and came away with great results and have been successful since, and this is all thanks to the teachers who made every effort possible to get me through the exams by offering fantastic support.

To blame this all on the teachers is ridiculous, a huge majority of the students are not willing to learn and disrupt those who do, they take up teachers time giving them less chance to actually teach.

I had a great time at Testwood and I am very thankful for my time there and the opportunities I had through the school and the opportunities I've had since. Now is the time to support Testwood not moan about it.
I'm glad that someone who has been through Testwood and is only now around 17/18 sees the school as a place were pupils actually learn, achieve and see what teachers put in for them.

Well done Em1996
[quote][p][bold]Em1996[/bold] wrote: I left the school in 2012 and came away with great results and have been successful since, and this is all thanks to the teachers who made every effort possible to get me through the exams by offering fantastic support. To blame this all on the teachers is ridiculous, a huge majority of the students are not willing to learn and disrupt those who do, they take up teachers time giving them less chance to actually teach. I had a great time at Testwood and I am very thankful for my time there and the opportunities I had through the school and the opportunities I've had since. Now is the time to support Testwood not moan about it.[/p][/quote]I'm glad that someone who has been through Testwood and is only now around 17/18 sees the school as a place were pupils actually learn, achieve and see what teachers put in for them. Well done Em1996 totton_lad
  • Score: 4

11:15pm Fri 14 Feb 14

timewaster1 says...

deepheat wrote:
You can forget sending your child to this school if they have any ambition of being a musician. They don't have a music department or teachers that can teach music.
I know someone that went to Testwood School. They said their last two years at school was so boring, nothing but going over and over subjects for exams, every day was like groundhog day. There was no inspiration from teachers who were just as bored as the Kids they were suppose to be teaching. No wonder pupils just ended up bunking off school. The headmasters of this school, past and present have let so many pupils and parents down over the years.
My daughter went to Testwood many years ago. The music teacher, at the time, was excellent and they have gone on to be friends. He is even godfather to one of my grandsons. My daughter went on to Totton College and then to university to study music and has been a music teacher for the past 22 years. It's a shame to hear how the school has gone down so much. My daughter was definitely not let down by the headmasters of the school.
[quote][p][bold]deepheat[/bold] wrote: You can forget sending your child to this school if they have any ambition of being a musician. They don't have a music department or teachers that can teach music. I know someone that went to Testwood School. They said their last two years at school was so boring, nothing but going over and over subjects for exams, every day was like groundhog day. There was no inspiration from teachers who were just as bored as the Kids they were suppose to be teaching. No wonder pupils just ended up bunking off school. The headmasters of this school, past and present have let so many pupils and parents down over the years.[/p][/quote]My daughter went to Testwood many years ago. The music teacher, at the time, was excellent and they have gone on to be friends. He is even godfather to one of my grandsons. My daughter went on to Totton College and then to university to study music and has been a music teacher for the past 22 years. It's a shame to hear how the school has gone down so much. My daughter was definitely not let down by the headmasters of the school. timewaster1
  • Score: 3

9:09am Sat 15 Feb 14

Totton15 says...

totton_lad wrote:
Totton15 wrote:
We have 2 children who attended this school & have nothing but praise for Testwood & Mr Appleton who turn't the school around after the days of headteacher Mrs Capsimedos.
Too many parents blame the schools, teachers, etc, when teaching good behaviour SHOULD start at home, not at school. The teachers have enough to do delivering a lesson without disruptive children making their jobs harder.
Some people have short memories about 'Mad Maggies' tenure! It has improved a massive amount under the present Headship. Thanks for pointing this out.

A lot of parents, and most of them do the shouting, blame everyone BUT themselves! I think they just dump their children on the school and say 'Over to you, it's your job!'
Agree 100%
[quote][p][bold]totton_lad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Totton15[/bold] wrote: We have 2 children who attended this school & have nothing but praise for Testwood & Mr Appleton who turn't the school around after the days of headteacher Mrs Capsimedos. Too many parents blame the schools, teachers, etc, when teaching good behaviour SHOULD start at home, not at school. The teachers have enough to do delivering a lesson without disruptive children making their jobs harder.[/p][/quote]Some people have short memories about 'Mad Maggies' tenure! It has improved a massive amount under the present Headship. Thanks for pointing this out. A lot of parents, and most of them do the shouting, blame everyone BUT themselves! I think they just dump their children on the school and say 'Over to you, it's your job!'[/p][/quote]Agree 100% Totton15
  • Score: 2

9:10am Sat 15 Feb 14

Totton15 says...

totton_lad wrote:
Totton15 wrote:
We have 2 children who attended this school & have nothing but praise for Testwood & Mr Appleton who turn't the school around after the days of headteacher Mrs Capsimedos.
Too many parents blame the schools, teachers, etc, when teaching good behaviour SHOULD start at home, not at school. The teachers have enough to do delivering a lesson without disruptive children making their jobs harder.
Some people have short memories about 'Mad Maggies' tenure! It has improved a massive amount under the present Headship. Thanks for pointing this out.

A lot of parents, and most of them do the shouting, blame everyone BUT themselves! I think they just dump their children on the school and say 'Over to you, it's your job!'
Agree 100%
[quote][p][bold]totton_lad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Totton15[/bold] wrote: We have 2 children who attended this school & have nothing but praise for Testwood & Mr Appleton who turn't the school around after the days of headteacher Mrs Capsimedos. Too many parents blame the schools, teachers, etc, when teaching good behaviour SHOULD start at home, not at school. The teachers have enough to do delivering a lesson without disruptive children making their jobs harder.[/p][/quote]Some people have short memories about 'Mad Maggies' tenure! It has improved a massive amount under the present Headship. Thanks for pointing this out. A lot of parents, and most of them do the shouting, blame everyone BUT themselves! I think they just dump their children on the school and say 'Over to you, it's your job!'[/p][/quote]Agree 100% Totton15
  • Score: 0

9:26am Sat 15 Feb 14

Totton15 says...

solomum wrote:
S Pance wrote:
solomum wrote:
Versuvious wrote:
This makes me laugh, i attended this school from 2000-06 and i could have told you this is long overdue. While i was at this school i witnessed a stabbing in the back of the field a drugs ring court, constant fighting, bullying was NOT dealt with, in many cases they would stick the bully AND the victim in the "learning support" room, and leave them un-attended which is a bacic invite to a death match.

Although, everything was not all bad... i mean, when the teachers COULD teach it was pretty good, but the whole place needs a serious look over on how they do things... as i believe some teachers are just pure lazy and do not teach, but throw a book at you and basically say "copy out of this"

But, with lacked discipline towards children these days no wonder school like Testwood that house a large amount of pupils cannot control them when you have to sign for your own detention and almost anything a parent does to punish they're child is classed as some form of "abuse"
What the school was like from 2000-2006 has no bearing on now. There was a different head teacher in place then and no doubt a lot of different staff too. This current Ofsted is a shock to a lot of people, BUT, it can only encourage improvements. If Ofsted were around when I was at school back in the 80's I dread to think how they would have rated the school I attended. In fact I left school with just CSE's rather than O levels, but that has not stopped me forging a good career for myself. I would not want to work in a school and I have utmost respect for those that do. Testwood has a wide mix of pupils and a challenging catchment area. I really do wish them well for the future and hope that pupils and parents alike will pull together to support the school.
Mr Appleton has been HT for nearly 20years.
Mr Appleton has definitely not been headteacher for 20 yrs. There was a female head there back in the early 2000's .
Mr Appleton took over from that female head who jumped before she was pushed. Our oldest attended Testwood when she was head, it was appalling, they had teachers who couldn't even speak English properly.
What's that got to do with now you may ask.....Well, Mr Appleton took over from her & turn't the school around, new staff etc. Our youngest excelled there with Mr Appleton as head.
All Children have a right to a proper education, we all worry about this & i must admit if i still have children there i would be worried about this report.
Parents whose children attend Testwood now or are due to this year, will be worried sick now. This happening will be a good thing as it was back in Mrs Capsimidos's day when she walked. Let us not forget, every school has a board of Governers, so, its not entirely the Headteacher to blame.
I wish Mr Appleton, a very long & happy retirement & thank him for his leadership at the school when our youngest attended.
[quote][p][bold]solomum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]S Pance[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]solomum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Versuvious[/bold] wrote: This makes me laugh, i attended this school from 2000-06 and i could have told you this is long overdue. While i was at this school i witnessed a stabbing in the back of the field a drugs ring court, constant fighting, bullying was NOT dealt with, in many cases they would stick the bully AND the victim in the "learning support" room, and leave them un-attended which is a bacic invite to a death match. Although, everything was not all bad... i mean, when the teachers COULD teach it was pretty good, but the whole place needs a serious look over on how they do things... as i believe some teachers are just pure lazy and do not teach, but throw a book at you and basically say "copy out of this" But, with lacked discipline towards children these days no wonder school like Testwood that house a large amount of pupils cannot control them when you have to sign for your own detention and almost anything a parent does to punish they're child is classed as some form of "abuse"[/p][/quote]What the school was like from 2000-2006 has no bearing on now. There was a different head teacher in place then and no doubt a lot of different staff too. This current Ofsted is a shock to a lot of people, BUT, it can only encourage improvements. If Ofsted were around when I was at school back in the 80's I dread to think how they would have rated the school I attended. In fact I left school with just CSE's rather than O levels, but that has not stopped me forging a good career for myself. I would not want to work in a school and I have utmost respect for those that do. Testwood has a wide mix of pupils and a challenging catchment area. I really do wish them well for the future and hope that pupils and parents alike will pull together to support the school.[/p][/quote]Mr Appleton has been HT for nearly 20years.[/p][/quote]Mr Appleton has definitely not been headteacher for 20 yrs. There was a female head there back in the early 2000's .[/p][/quote]Mr Appleton took over from that female head who jumped before she was pushed. Our oldest attended Testwood when she was head, it was appalling, they had teachers who couldn't even speak English properly. What's that got to do with now you may ask.....Well, Mr Appleton took over from her & turn't the school around, new staff etc. Our youngest excelled there with Mr Appleton as head. All Children have a right to a proper education, we all worry about this & i must admit if i still have children there i would be worried about this report. Parents whose children attend Testwood now or are due to this year, will be worried sick now. This happening will be a good thing as it was back in Mrs Capsimidos's day when she walked. Let us not forget, every school has a board of Governers, so, its not entirely the Headteacher to blame. I wish Mr Appleton, a very long & happy retirement & thank him for his leadership at the school when our youngest attended. Totton15
  • Score: 4

9:42am Sat 15 Feb 14

totton_lad says...

Totton15 wrote:
solomum wrote:
S Pance wrote:
solomum wrote:
Versuvious wrote:
This makes me laugh, i attended this school from 2000-06 and i could have told you this is long overdue. While i was at this school i witnessed a stabbing in the back of the field a drugs ring court, constant fighting, bullying was NOT dealt with, in many cases they would stick the bully AND the victim in the "learning support" room, and leave them un-attended which is a bacic invite to a death match.

Although, everything was not all bad... i mean, when the teachers COULD teach it was pretty good, but the whole place needs a serious look over on how they do things... as i believe some teachers are just pure lazy and do not teach, but throw a book at you and basically say "copy out of this"

But, with lacked discipline towards children these days no wonder school like Testwood that house a large amount of pupils cannot control them when you have to sign for your own detention and almost anything a parent does to punish they're child is classed as some form of "abuse"
What the school was like from 2000-2006 has no bearing on now. There was a different head teacher in place then and no doubt a lot of different staff too. This current Ofsted is a shock to a lot of people, BUT, it can only encourage improvements. If Ofsted were around when I was at school back in the 80's I dread to think how they would have rated the school I attended. In fact I left school with just CSE's rather than O levels, but that has not stopped me forging a good career for myself. I would not want to work in a school and I have utmost respect for those that do. Testwood has a wide mix of pupils and a challenging catchment area. I really do wish them well for the future and hope that pupils and parents alike will pull together to support the school.
Mr Appleton has been HT for nearly 20years.
Mr Appleton has definitely not been headteacher for 20 yrs. There was a female head there back in the early 2000's .
Mr Appleton took over from that female head who jumped before she was pushed. Our oldest attended Testwood when she was head, it was appalling, they had teachers who couldn't even speak English properly.
What's that got to do with now you may ask.....Well, Mr Appleton took over from her & turn't the school around, new staff etc. Our youngest excelled there with Mr Appleton as head.
All Children have a right to a proper education, we all worry about this & i must admit if i still have children there i would be worried about this report.
Parents whose children attend Testwood now or are due to this year, will be worried sick now. This happening will be a good thing as it was back in Mrs Capsimidos's day when she walked. Let us not forget, every school has a board of Governers, so, its not entirely the Headteacher to blame.
I wish Mr Appleton, a very long & happy retirement & thank him for his leadership at the school when our youngest attended.
The figures for next year are already higher than last because a lot have already taken GCSE's - so it's not a problem
[quote][p][bold]Totton15[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]solomum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]S Pance[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]solomum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Versuvious[/bold] wrote: This makes me laugh, i attended this school from 2000-06 and i could have told you this is long overdue. While i was at this school i witnessed a stabbing in the back of the field a drugs ring court, constant fighting, bullying was NOT dealt with, in many cases they would stick the bully AND the victim in the "learning support" room, and leave them un-attended which is a bacic invite to a death match. Although, everything was not all bad... i mean, when the teachers COULD teach it was pretty good, but the whole place needs a serious look over on how they do things... as i believe some teachers are just pure lazy and do not teach, but throw a book at you and basically say "copy out of this" But, with lacked discipline towards children these days no wonder school like Testwood that house a large amount of pupils cannot control them when you have to sign for your own detention and almost anything a parent does to punish they're child is classed as some form of "abuse"[/p][/quote]What the school was like from 2000-2006 has no bearing on now. There was a different head teacher in place then and no doubt a lot of different staff too. This current Ofsted is a shock to a lot of people, BUT, it can only encourage improvements. If Ofsted were around when I was at school back in the 80's I dread to think how they would have rated the school I attended. In fact I left school with just CSE's rather than O levels, but that has not stopped me forging a good career for myself. I would not want to work in a school and I have utmost respect for those that do. Testwood has a wide mix of pupils and a challenging catchment area. I really do wish them well for the future and hope that pupils and parents alike will pull together to support the school.[/p][/quote]Mr Appleton has been HT for nearly 20years.[/p][/quote]Mr Appleton has definitely not been headteacher for 20 yrs. There was a female head there back in the early 2000's .[/p][/quote]Mr Appleton took over from that female head who jumped before she was pushed. Our oldest attended Testwood when she was head, it was appalling, they had teachers who couldn't even speak English properly. What's that got to do with now you may ask.....Well, Mr Appleton took over from her & turn't the school around, new staff etc. Our youngest excelled there with Mr Appleton as head. All Children have a right to a proper education, we all worry about this & i must admit if i still have children there i would be worried about this report. Parents whose children attend Testwood now or are due to this year, will be worried sick now. This happening will be a good thing as it was back in Mrs Capsimidos's day when she walked. Let us not forget, every school has a board of Governers, so, its not entirely the Headteacher to blame. I wish Mr Appleton, a very long & happy retirement & thank him for his leadership at the school when our youngest attended.[/p][/quote]The figures for next year are already higher than last because a lot have already taken GCSE's - so it's not a problem totton_lad
  • Score: 4

4:44pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Sir Ant ant says...

S Pance wrote:
Did anyone go to the meeting last night? The school were blaming the children of year 11 for the bad Ofsted!

Inconsistent homework, fighting in class, inadequate teaching standards were all mentioned by parents last night. Apparently Mr Appleton wrote to parents about 18 months ago saying it was school policy NOT to require homework to be handed in. Un-bl00dy-believable

!

One parent described Mr Appleton as "Arrogant" last night and I personally believe this to be the case.

The school need to accept that they are to blame for this mess, not the pupils before any of this will be sorted.

Glad the guy has fallen on his sword and is going.
I have to say something here. I am a student at Testwood and I am very disappointed at the Ofsted reports This may sound like utter rubbish But II say its one of the best schools I have ever been to. there maybe the slight case of bully's but I find that they Retreat after a while. but its one of the most WARM hearted schools, Ofsted based the results on GCSE class work and Behavior and I think they always seem to look on the bad side and never the good side.

The school always concentrates on the weak and makes sure they get through there work.

I've heard from past friends that the school they go to have drug issues and also violent behavior issues SO why are they saying this school is bad. when there are other schools that need more care than this one?

Ii say Ofsted is corrupt and deserve to be looked at, and not our school
[quote][p][bold]S Pance[/bold] wrote: Did anyone go to the meeting last night? The school were blaming the children of year 11 for the bad Ofsted! Inconsistent homework, fighting in class, inadequate teaching standards were all mentioned by parents last night. Apparently Mr Appleton wrote to parents about 18 months ago saying it was school policy NOT to require homework to be handed in. Un-bl00dy-believable ! One parent described Mr Appleton as "Arrogant" last night and I personally believe this to be the case. The school need to accept that they are to blame for this mess, not the pupils before any of this will be sorted. Glad the guy has fallen on his sword and is going.[/p][/quote]I have to say something here. I am a student at Testwood and I am very disappointed at the Ofsted reports This may sound like utter rubbish But II say its one of the best schools I have ever been to. there maybe the slight case of bully's but I find that they Retreat after a while. but its one of the most WARM hearted schools, Ofsted based the results on GCSE class work and Behavior and I think they always seem to look on the bad side and never the good side. The school always concentrates on the weak and makes sure they get through there work. I've heard from past friends that the school they go to have drug issues and also violent behavior issues SO why are they saying this school is bad. when there are other schools that need more care than this one? Ii say Ofsted is corrupt and deserve to be looked at, and not our school Sir Ant ant
  • Score: 6

5:37pm Sat 15 Feb 14

eurogordi says...

Peters567 wrote:
I find it absolutely incredible that Appy wrote to parents of a badly behaved pupil, asking him to stay at home while Ofsted visited!?

Is this true, eurogordi?! If it is, I feel that Ofsted/the LEA should be informed.

For me, that action alone explains why the school is in special measures.
Yes it is true and this would have been the 2008 inspection. I did complain to Ofsted that this had happened and was told that there were no behaviour issues at the school. When I referred to letter that parents were able to submit to Ofsted about any concerns, the sealed "private and confidential" envelope which had been handed in at reception had not been given to Ofsted. Of course, I was a "difficult" parent as far as the school was concerned, even though I was trying to get resolution to the bullying my child was suffering. Clearly the school did not want Ofsted to know about such things.

And whatever people may say about my praise of Mrs Capsomidis and the school pre-Mr Appleton, I speak as I find from my own personal experiences. I may be in the minority, but I am confident in what has been written by me.
[quote][p][bold]Peters567[/bold] wrote: I find it absolutely incredible that Appy wrote to parents of a badly behaved pupil, asking him to stay at home while Ofsted visited!? Is this true, eurogordi?! If it is, I feel that Ofsted/the LEA should be informed. For me, that action alone explains why the school is in special measures.[/p][/quote]Yes it is true and this would have been the 2008 inspection. I did complain to Ofsted that this had happened and was told that there were no behaviour issues at the school. When I referred to letter that parents were able to submit to Ofsted about any concerns, the sealed "private and confidential" envelope which had been handed in at reception had not been given to Ofsted. Of course, I was a "difficult" parent as far as the school was concerned, even though I was trying to get resolution to the bullying my child was suffering. Clearly the school did not want Ofsted to know about such things. And whatever people may say about my praise of Mrs Capsomidis and the school pre-Mr Appleton, I speak as I find from my own personal experiences. I may be in the minority, but I am confident in what has been written by me. eurogordi
  • Score: 1

7:30pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Peters567 says...

Wow! Thanks eurogordi.

I think that's absolutely scandalous. Whilst your experience might be a one off, it certainly shows willing on the part of the school to "cheat" the Ofsted.

I think serious questions need to be asked. Echo, could you get a statement from the school regarding this accusation?
Wow! Thanks eurogordi. I think that's absolutely scandalous. Whilst your experience might be a one off, it certainly shows willing on the part of the school to "cheat" the Ofsted. I think serious questions need to be asked. Echo, could you get a statement from the school regarding this accusation? Peters567
  • Score: -1

8:16am Sun 16 Feb 14

VOR666 says...

Don't be daft. Even if it did happen, it was six years ago and Ofsted were notified at the time but chose not to pursue it.
Don't be daft. Even if it did happen, it was six years ago and Ofsted were notified at the time but chose not to pursue it. VOR666
  • Score: 1

8:23am Sun 16 Feb 14

notableedingheart says...

Why would anyone who wishes to provide quality teaching to children remain in this much maligned profession.
Teachers cannot make a silk purse out of a pigs ear. Testwood draws kids from a x-section of socio-economic families including a significant group of difficult socially and behaviourally challenging families. If a kid plays up what does a teacher do to control the kid and maintain learning discipline? Not much because some kids couldn't give a monkeys about any so-called punishments (actually not allowed to call them punishments - must call them remedial or behavioural modification strategies). And the so-called punishments are sheer nonsense that would not cause any dysfunctional kid any apprehension. If the Teacher decided to shout at the kid then he/she is suspended for abusive treatment of a kid. So the kid just carries on and disrupts the class and the school. All of this is well known to the kids who will spout on forever about their rights but notably never their responsibilities.
Multiply this one kid by 10 and you have 10 trouble makers in the class who are beyond the modern day controls and who damage or destroy any hope the average or good kids have of receiving quality education. This is reality and one that parents need to accept if the underlying causes of any problems are to be understood and resolved.
Now onto the parents - Testwood like most schools is also infected, I use that word deliberately - by parents who do not provide the correct positive role model and who will contact the school at the drop of a hat to complain about any Teacher that attempts to rein in dysfunctional Johnny or Jane.
Read a story of an Oz Teacher sacked because he defended himself from a dysfunctional 16 yr old student who was punching the Teacher. The Teacher's offence was to place the kid in a headlock to stop him punching the Teacher in the face. The kids parents wanted the teacher charged by Police but backed off immediately after the Police told them that the kid had committed assault and the Teacher was entitled to defend himself. Still didn't help the Teacher as his employer still sacked him for failing to maintain discipline in his classroom.
So it seems that the loss of any realistic controls that will have any impact on dysfunctional kids and their families is not just in the UK.
I notice also that the OFSTED people did not volunteer to take a few classes over say a 3mth period to show the local Teachers how to regain control. It is easy to point the finger and criticise but a lot harder to show how to correct things. They would cack their pants if they actually had to work in the real coalface.
I am still one of those dwindling people who admire and respect teachers. Given what they have to confront from parents, kids and their own employers I believe it is the 8th wonder of the world that we have any Teachers.
Why would anyone who wishes to provide quality teaching to children remain in this much maligned profession. Teachers cannot make a silk purse out of a pigs ear. Testwood draws kids from a x-section of socio-economic families including a significant group of difficult socially and behaviourally challenging families. If a kid plays up what does a teacher do to control the kid and maintain learning discipline? Not much because some kids couldn't give a monkeys about any so-called punishments (actually not allowed to call them punishments - must call them remedial or behavioural modification strategies). And the so-called punishments are sheer nonsense that would not cause any dysfunctional kid any apprehension. If the Teacher decided to shout at the kid then he/she is suspended for abusive treatment of a kid. So the kid just carries on and disrupts the class and the school. All of this is well known to the kids who will spout on forever about their rights but notably never their responsibilities. Multiply this one kid by 10 and you have 10 trouble makers in the class who are beyond the modern day controls and who damage or destroy any hope the average or good kids have of receiving quality education. This is reality and one that parents need to accept if the underlying causes of any problems are to be understood and resolved. Now onto the parents - Testwood like most schools is also infected, I use that word deliberately - by parents who do not provide the correct positive role model and who will contact the school at the drop of a hat to complain about any Teacher that attempts to rein in dysfunctional Johnny or Jane. Read a story of an Oz Teacher sacked because he defended himself from a dysfunctional 16 yr old student who was punching the Teacher. The Teacher's offence was to place the kid in a headlock to stop him punching the Teacher in the face. The kids parents wanted the teacher charged by Police but backed off immediately after the Police told them that the kid had committed assault and the Teacher was entitled to defend himself. Still didn't help the Teacher as his employer still sacked him for failing to maintain discipline in his classroom. So it seems that the loss of any realistic controls that will have any impact on dysfunctional kids and their families is not just in the UK. I notice also that the OFSTED people did not volunteer to take a few classes over say a 3mth period to show the local Teachers how to regain control. It is easy to point the finger and criticise but a lot harder to show how to correct things. They would cack their pants if they actually had to work in the real coalface. I am still one of those dwindling people who admire and respect teachers. Given what they have to confront from parents, kids and their own employers I believe it is the 8th wonder of the world that we have any Teachers. notableedingheart
  • Score: 9

8:43am Sun 16 Feb 14

VOR666 says...

Here here to the previous comment. I have to say that most of the problems in school are caused by parents who don't care or who cannot control their own children. All they do is blame the school for their own inadequacies. Of course there are many supportive parents who work with the school to ensure their child is successful, but a significant minority just make the life of the teacher very difficult.
Here here to the previous comment. I have to say that most of the problems in school are caused by parents who don't care or who cannot control their own children. All they do is blame the school for their own inadequacies. Of course there are many supportive parents who work with the school to ensure their child is successful, but a significant minority just make the life of the teacher very difficult. VOR666
  • Score: 6

7:22pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Justsomegirl says...

I left Testwood last year, and I'm genuinely surprised at this report. The school supported me so much especially in English, they offered students who needed support extra English lessons, and it was down to the students to attend these sessions, without them I doubt I would have got the grades I needed to get into the college I'm in now.
In all the classes I was in over the 5 years I was there I accounted minimal bad behaviour in lessons, and any behaviour that was unacceptable was dealt with in an appropriate manner.
I think my years bad results were down to the individual, those I know worked hard for their gcse's got the grades they deserved, and those who put the bare minimal effort into school their results reflected this.
2 of my older siblings went here as well, all of us attending whilst Mr Appleton has been head teacher, and all of us got our 5 A*-C grades including English and Maths. So surely Mr Appleton has done something right?
I know that he will be missed, Testwood won't be the same without him there. I wish him all the best for what he decides to do next.
I left Testwood last year, and I'm genuinely surprised at this report. The school supported me so much especially in English, they offered students who needed support extra English lessons, and it was down to the students to attend these sessions, without them I doubt I would have got the grades I needed to get into the college I'm in now. In all the classes I was in over the 5 years I was there I accounted minimal bad behaviour in lessons, and any behaviour that was unacceptable was dealt with in an appropriate manner. I think my years bad results were down to the individual, those I know worked hard for their gcse's got the grades they deserved, and those who put the bare minimal effort into school their results reflected this. 2 of my older siblings went here as well, all of us attending whilst Mr Appleton has been head teacher, and all of us got our 5 A*-C grades including English and Maths. So surely Mr Appleton has done something right? I know that he will be missed, Testwood won't be the same without him there. I wish him all the best for what he decides to do next. Justsomegirl
  • Score: 8

7:41pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Beanie77 says...

deepheat wrote:
solomum wrote:
deepheat wrote:
You can forget sending your child to this school if they have any ambition of being a musician. They don't have a music department or teachers that can teach music.
I know someone that went to Testwood School. They said their last two years at school was so boring, nothing but going over and over subjects for exams, every day was like groundhog day. There was no inspiration from teachers who were just as bored as the Kids they were suppose to be teaching. No wonder pupils just ended up bunking off school. The headmasters of this school, past and present have let so many pupils and parents down over the years.
Where on earth do you get that information from? Testwood does have a Music department for years 7, 8 and 11. Years 9+10 are focusing on BTEC which is why Music is not incorporated into their timetable. For any child wanting to pursue a musical career, there is a BTEC in Perfoming Arts. It seems that you are speaking second hand, The old story of I know someone who went there and they said.......
You are basically copy/pasting from the Testwood School website.

I read the report. Here is what it states.

"Leaders are aware that provision for music within the college remains an area for further development. Although a few students now learn to play an instrument and the ‘Rock challenge’ continues to attract many students, there is still insufficient focus on music both in terms of lessons and within the college overall".

I rest my case.
I can assure you there is a Music Department! Please come and visit after half term....
[quote][p][bold]deepheat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]solomum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]deepheat[/bold] wrote: You can forget sending your child to this school if they have any ambition of being a musician. They don't have a music department or teachers that can teach music. I know someone that went to Testwood School. They said their last two years at school was so boring, nothing but going over and over subjects for exams, every day was like groundhog day. There was no inspiration from teachers who were just as bored as the Kids they were suppose to be teaching. No wonder pupils just ended up bunking off school. The headmasters of this school, past and present have let so many pupils and parents down over the years.[/p][/quote]Where on earth do you get that information from? Testwood does have a Music department for years 7, 8 and 11. Years 9+10 are focusing on BTEC which is why Music is not incorporated into their timetable. For any child wanting to pursue a musical career, there is a BTEC in Perfoming Arts. It seems that you are speaking second hand, The old story of I know someone who went there and they said.......[/p][/quote]You are basically copy/pasting from the Testwood School website. I read the report. Here is what it states. "Leaders are aware that provision for music within the college remains an area for further development. Although a few students now learn to play an instrument and the ‘Rock challenge’ continues to attract many students, there is still insufficient focus on music both in terms of lessons and within the college overall". I rest my case.[/p][/quote]I can assure you there is a Music Department! Please come and visit after half term.... Beanie77
  • Score: 2

7:45pm Sun 16 Feb 14

car driver says...

How rewarding to see a positive fair report about her school I worked at the school in a non teaching role for both Headteachers and only had admiration for both of them Mrs Capsomides had a difficult role but was admired by some and persecuted by others .Mr Appleton took over after a difficult time for both staff and pupils and his teaching and Headship role settled in to adjust to the changing role of Testwood to becoming a sports academy.Maybe his calming manner was not quite suited to the aggressive behavior of some of the parents which had passed down to their offspring.No one likes to hear their children have misbehaved but to some it was always somebody elses fault maybe if they complied with the rules then their children would follow suit.Life is never easy for anyone in this current climate but we all have choices do I behave or do I not.Once they leave Testwood and maybe secure employment or we read about them in your paper having an extended holliday at her majeastys pleasure do we blame the school and headships or look closer to home.Enjoy your retirement Mr Appleton and look back on your sucesses.
How rewarding to see a positive fair report about her school I worked at the school in a non teaching role for both Headteachers and only had admiration for both of them Mrs Capsomides had a difficult role but was admired by some and persecuted by others .Mr Appleton took over after a difficult time for both staff and pupils and his teaching and Headship role settled in to adjust to the changing role of Testwood to becoming a sports academy.Maybe his calming manner was not quite suited to the aggressive behavior of some of the parents which had passed down to their offspring.No one likes to hear their children have misbehaved but to some it was always somebody elses fault maybe if they complied with the rules then their children would follow suit.Life is never easy for anyone in this current climate but we all have choices do I behave or do I not.Once they leave Testwood and maybe secure employment or we read about them in your paper having an extended holliday at her majeastys pleasure do we blame the school and headships or look closer to home.Enjoy your retirement Mr Appleton and look back on your sucesses. car driver
  • Score: 6

8:34pm Sun 16 Feb 14

insider1234 says...

Justsomegirl wrote:
I left Testwood last year, and I'm genuinely surprised at this report. The school supported me so much especially in English, they offered students who needed support extra English lessons, and it was down to the students to attend these sessions, without them I doubt I would have got the grades I needed to get into the college I'm in now.
In all the classes I was in over the 5 years I was there I accounted minimal bad behaviour in lessons, and any behaviour that was unacceptable was dealt with in an appropriate manner.
I think my years bad results were down to the individual, those I know worked hard for their gcse's got the grades they deserved, and those who put the bare minimal effort into school their results reflected this.
2 of my older siblings went here as well, all of us attending whilst Mr Appleton has been head teacher, and all of us got our 5 A*-C grades including English and Maths. So surely Mr Appleton has done something right?
I know that he will be missed, Testwood won't be the same without him there. I wish him all the best for what he decides to do next.
Well done on your success. I'm sure you succeeded because you went to the Easter and half term revision classes that were put on by staff (voluntarily) and didn't decide to go to the beach like I'm sure others did. Still I bet their parents probably blame the teachers like OFSTED did......
[quote][p][bold]Justsomegirl[/bold] wrote: I left Testwood last year, and I'm genuinely surprised at this report. The school supported me so much especially in English, they offered students who needed support extra English lessons, and it was down to the students to attend these sessions, without them I doubt I would have got the grades I needed to get into the college I'm in now. In all the classes I was in over the 5 years I was there I accounted minimal bad behaviour in lessons, and any behaviour that was unacceptable was dealt with in an appropriate manner. I think my years bad results were down to the individual, those I know worked hard for their gcse's got the grades they deserved, and those who put the bare minimal effort into school their results reflected this. 2 of my older siblings went here as well, all of us attending whilst Mr Appleton has been head teacher, and all of us got our 5 A*-C grades including English and Maths. So surely Mr Appleton has done something right? I know that he will be missed, Testwood won't be the same without him there. I wish him all the best for what he decides to do next.[/p][/quote]Well done on your success. I'm sure you succeeded because you went to the Easter and half term revision classes that were put on by staff (voluntarily) and didn't decide to go to the beach like I'm sure others did. Still I bet their parents probably blame the teachers like OFSTED did...... insider1234
  • Score: 3

11:31pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Versuvious says...

@Solomum This once more leads me to say, how can you not know when mr. appleton was put in head position? because if i remember correctly it was around 2002 he became head teacher... so yeah, i was in school there for another 4 years approx so.... might want to count back on that.....

And as for the whole "he turned it around" rubbish, as you can see OBVIOUSLY not as ofsted has put them in special messures, and to be honest your comments on " teachers who could'nt speak english" i dont know if you have seen, but we have a huge influx in immigration and most people that i hear dont even speak english, and on another note, those teachers were bulgarian.... and staff does change but a fair few of my teachers still teach there as i have 2 younger brothers that attended/attend there.

My only argument is that the school did almost nothing for me, and taught me very little, hell, the papers were on TOTALLY different to what we had been taught so alot of us in that hall had to guess most of our papers!

So do excuse me if i am displeased that i went to a school that basically gave me no education and had many pupils there who would rather beat on other kids, disrupt classes and run amok.
@Solomum This once more leads me to say, how can you not know when mr. appleton was put in head position? because if i remember correctly it was around 2002 he became head teacher... so yeah, i was in school there for another 4 years approx so.... might want to count back on that..... And as for the whole "he turned it around" rubbish, as you can see OBVIOUSLY not as ofsted has put them in special messures, and to be honest your comments on " teachers who could'nt speak english" i dont know if you have seen, but we have a huge influx in immigration and most people that i hear dont even speak english, and on another note, those teachers were bulgarian.... and staff does change but a fair few of my teachers still teach there as i have 2 younger brothers that attended/attend there. My only argument is that the school did almost nothing for me, and taught me very little, hell, the papers were on TOTALLY different to what we had been taught so alot of us in that hall had to guess most of our papers! So do excuse me if i am displeased that i went to a school that basically gave me no education and had many pupils there who would rather beat on other kids, disrupt classes and run amok. Versuvious
  • Score: 0

11:42pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Justsomegirl says...

Versuvious wrote:
@Solomum This once more leads me to say, how can you not know when mr. appleton was put in head position? because if i remember correctly it was around 2002 he became head teacher... so yeah, i was in school there for another 4 years approx so.... might want to count back on that.....

And as for the whole "he turned it around" rubbish, as you can see OBVIOUSLY not as ofsted has put them in special messures, and to be honest your comments on " teachers who could'nt speak english" i dont know if you have seen, but we have a huge influx in immigration and most people that i hear dont even speak english, and on another note, those teachers were bulgarian.... and staff does change but a fair few of my teachers still teach there as i have 2 younger brothers that attended/attend there.

My only argument is that the school did almost nothing for me, and taught me very little, hell, the papers were on TOTALLY different to what we had been taught so alot of us in that hall had to guess most of our papers!

So do excuse me if i am displeased that i went to a school that basically gave me no education and had many pupils there who would rather beat on other kids, disrupt classes and run amok.
This school did loads to help me, when I enter through tough times at home my grades fell loads. The support I was given enabled me to go from basically all U's in my mocks to getting nothing below a B in my actual results. The teachers did everything I think they could of to help us, like having the extra English sessions and by voluntarily running the sessions in the half terms. It was down to the students to attend these sessions, if the student isn't willing to help themselves and would rather go to the beach, how could the teachers help them improve their grades?
[quote][p][bold]Versuvious[/bold] wrote: @Solomum This once more leads me to say, how can you not know when mr. appleton was put in head position? because if i remember correctly it was around 2002 he became head teacher... so yeah, i was in school there for another 4 years approx so.... might want to count back on that..... And as for the whole "he turned it around" rubbish, as you can see OBVIOUSLY not as ofsted has put them in special messures, and to be honest your comments on " teachers who could'nt speak english" i dont know if you have seen, but we have a huge influx in immigration and most people that i hear dont even speak english, and on another note, those teachers were bulgarian.... and staff does change but a fair few of my teachers still teach there as i have 2 younger brothers that attended/attend there. My only argument is that the school did almost nothing for me, and taught me very little, hell, the papers were on TOTALLY different to what we had been taught so alot of us in that hall had to guess most of our papers! So do excuse me if i am displeased that i went to a school that basically gave me no education and had many pupils there who would rather beat on other kids, disrupt classes and run amok.[/p][/quote]This school did loads to help me, when I enter through tough times at home my grades fell loads. The support I was given enabled me to go from basically all U's in my mocks to getting nothing below a B in my actual results. The teachers did everything I think they could of to help us, like having the extra English sessions and by voluntarily running the sessions in the half terms. It was down to the students to attend these sessions, if the student isn't willing to help themselves and would rather go to the beach, how could the teachers help them improve their grades? Justsomegirl
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11:44pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Justsomegirl says...

Versuvious wrote:
@Solomum This once more leads me to say, how can you not know when mr. appleton was put in head position? because if i remember correctly it was around 2002 he became head teacher... so yeah, i was in school there for another 4 years approx so.... might want to count back on that.....

And as for the whole "he turned it around" rubbish, as you can see OBVIOUSLY not as ofsted has put them in special messures, and to be honest your comments on " teachers who could'nt speak english" i dont know if you have seen, but we have a huge influx in immigration and most people that i hear dont even speak english, and on another note, those teachers were bulgarian.... and staff does change but a fair few of my teachers still teach there as i have 2 younger brothers that attended/attend there.

My only argument is that the school did almost nothing for me, and taught me very little, hell, the papers were on TOTALLY different to what we had been taught so alot of us in that hall had to guess most of our papers!

So do excuse me if i am displeased that i went to a school that basically gave me no education and had many pupils there who would rather beat on other kids, disrupt classes and run amok.
This school did loads to help me, when I went through tough times at home my grades fell loads. The support I was given enabled me to go from basically all U's in my mocks to getting nothing below a B in my actual results. The teachers did everything, I think, they could of done to help us, like having the extra English sessions and by voluntarily running the sessions in the half terms. It was down to the students to attend these sessions, if the student isn't willing to help themselves and would rather go to the beach, how could the teachers help them improve their grades?
[quote][p][bold]Versuvious[/bold] wrote: @Solomum This once more leads me to say, how can you not know when mr. appleton was put in head position? because if i remember correctly it was around 2002 he became head teacher... so yeah, i was in school there for another 4 years approx so.... might want to count back on that..... And as for the whole "he turned it around" rubbish, as you can see OBVIOUSLY not as ofsted has put them in special messures, and to be honest your comments on " teachers who could'nt speak english" i dont know if you have seen, but we have a huge influx in immigration and most people that i hear dont even speak english, and on another note, those teachers were bulgarian.... and staff does change but a fair few of my teachers still teach there as i have 2 younger brothers that attended/attend there. My only argument is that the school did almost nothing for me, and taught me very little, hell, the papers were on TOTALLY different to what we had been taught so alot of us in that hall had to guess most of our papers! So do excuse me if i am displeased that i went to a school that basically gave me no education and had many pupils there who would rather beat on other kids, disrupt classes and run amok.[/p][/quote]This school did loads to help me, when I went through tough times at home my grades fell loads. The support I was given enabled me to go from basically all U's in my mocks to getting nothing below a B in my actual results. The teachers did everything, I think, they could of done to help us, like having the extra English sessions and by voluntarily running the sessions in the half terms. It was down to the students to attend these sessions, if the student isn't willing to help themselves and would rather go to the beach, how could the teachers help them improve their grades? Justsomegirl
  • Score: -1

12:15am Mon 17 Feb 14

Versuvious says...

Hahaha! i guess your implying that i went to the beach and did not ever study? well, that is where your wrong... i did study, and i took up summer schools.

I was attacked several times in front of teachers and they did jack all basically as my abuse continued until i left totton all together.
It's good to hear they obviously improved from when i was there and somewhat supported you during your times of hard... but not to sound horrible... but how many people do you think are given the same kind of help throughout any bullying or hard times?....

Anyway back to the point, i was failed in Graphics because the school lost my coursework which, was put in a LOCKED ROOM, then, after GCSE's were done, had the audacity to send me my coursework without any apology or anything moreover was declined a re-grading.

I put alot of hard work and time into my education and spent years in college having to re-do and work over my GCSE's PROPERLY with the correct help and teaching which i can say, i did not get when i attended testwood.
Hahaha! i guess your implying that i went to the beach and did not ever study? well, that is where your wrong... i did study, and i took up summer schools. I was attacked several times in front of teachers and they did jack all basically as my abuse continued until i left totton all together. It's good to hear they obviously improved from when i was there and somewhat supported you during your times of hard... but not to sound horrible... but how many people do you think are given the same kind of help throughout any bullying or hard times?.... Anyway back to the point, i was failed in Graphics because the school lost my coursework which, was put in a LOCKED ROOM, then, after GCSE's were done, had the audacity to send me my coursework without any apology or anything moreover was declined a re-grading. I put alot of hard work and time into my education and spent years in college having to re-do and work over my GCSE's PROPERLY with the correct help and teaching which i can say, i did not get when i attended testwood. Versuvious
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12:02pm Mon 17 Feb 14

totton_lad says...

Versuvious wrote:
Hahaha! i guess your implying that i went to the beach and did not ever study? well, that is where your wrong... i did study, and i took up summer schools.

I was attacked several times in front of teachers and they did jack all basically as my abuse continued until i left totton all together.
It's good to hear they obviously improved from when i was there and somewhat supported you during your times of hard... but not to sound horrible... but how many people do you think are given the same kind of help throughout any bullying or hard times?....

Anyway back to the point, i was failed in Graphics because the school lost my coursework which, was put in a LOCKED ROOM, then, after GCSE's were done, had the audacity to send me my coursework without any apology or anything moreover was declined a re-grading.

I put alot of hard work and time into my education and spent years in college having to re-do and work over my GCSE's PROPERLY with the correct help and teaching which i can say, i did not get when i attended testwood.
Would be nice to talk about what is happening NOW not 8 years ago!
[quote][p][bold]Versuvious[/bold] wrote: Hahaha! i guess your implying that i went to the beach and did not ever study? well, that is where your wrong... i did study, and i took up summer schools. I was attacked several times in front of teachers and they did jack all basically as my abuse continued until i left totton all together. It's good to hear they obviously improved from when i was there and somewhat supported you during your times of hard... but not to sound horrible... but how many people do you think are given the same kind of help throughout any bullying or hard times?.... Anyway back to the point, i was failed in Graphics because the school lost my coursework which, was put in a LOCKED ROOM, then, after GCSE's were done, had the audacity to send me my coursework without any apology or anything moreover was declined a re-grading. I put alot of hard work and time into my education and spent years in college having to re-do and work over my GCSE's PROPERLY with the correct help and teaching which i can say, i did not get when i attended testwood.[/p][/quote]Would be nice to talk about what is happening NOW not 8 years ago! totton_lad
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8:47pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Versuvious says...

totton_lad wrote:
Versuvious wrote: Hahaha! i guess your implying that i went to the beach and did not ever study? well, that is where your wrong... i did study, and i took up summer schools. I was attacked several times in front of teachers and they did jack all basically as my abuse continued until i left totton all together. It's good to hear they obviously improved from when i was there and somewhat supported you during your times of hard... but not to sound horrible... but how many people do you think are given the same kind of help throughout any bullying or hard times?.... Anyway back to the point, i was failed in Graphics because the school lost my coursework which, was put in a LOCKED ROOM, then, after GCSE's were done, had the audacity to send me my coursework without any apology or anything moreover was declined a re-grading. I put alot of hard work and time into my education and spent years in college having to re-do and work over my GCSE's PROPERLY with the correct help and teaching which i can say, i did not get when i attended testwood.
Would be nice to talk about what is happening NOW not 8 years ago!
I'm sorry was getting a bit carried away with the past, but still this whole thing does not surprise me, and due to the way Ofsted works its funny how they deem it "special measures" if they themselves did not witness crucial errors or see a mass-decrease in grades being archived.

All i am saying is, there must be a valid reason because you cant just slam on a "special measures" stamp for no reason.
[quote][p][bold]totton_lad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Versuvious[/bold] wrote: Hahaha! i guess your implying that i went to the beach and did not ever study? well, that is where your wrong... i did study, and i took up summer schools. I was attacked several times in front of teachers and they did jack all basically as my abuse continued until i left totton all together. It's good to hear they obviously improved from when i was there and somewhat supported you during your times of hard... but not to sound horrible... but how many people do you think are given the same kind of help throughout any bullying or hard times?.... Anyway back to the point, i was failed in Graphics because the school lost my coursework which, was put in a LOCKED ROOM, then, after GCSE's were done, had the audacity to send me my coursework without any apology or anything moreover was declined a re-grading. I put alot of hard work and time into my education and spent years in college having to re-do and work over my GCSE's PROPERLY with the correct help and teaching which i can say, i did not get when i attended testwood.[/p][/quote]Would be nice to talk about what is happening NOW not 8 years ago![/p][/quote]I'm sorry was getting a bit carried away with the past, but still this whole thing does not surprise me, and due to the way Ofsted works its funny how they deem it "special measures" if they themselves did not witness crucial errors or see a mass-decrease in grades being archived. All i am saying is, there must be a valid reason because you cant just slam on a "special measures" stamp for no reason. Versuvious
  • Score: 1

4:31pm Wed 19 Feb 14

Arnold Frontbottom says...

S Pance wrote:
solomum wrote:
deepheat wrote:
You can forget sending your child to this school if they have any ambition of being a musician. They don't have a music department or teachers that can teach music.
I know someone that went to Testwood School. They said their last two years at school was so boring, nothing but going over and over subjects for exams, every day was like groundhog day. There was no inspiration from teachers who were just as bored as the Kids they were suppose to be teaching. No wonder pupils just ended up bunking off school. The headmasters of this school, past and present have let so many pupils and parents down over the years.
Where on earth do you get that information from? Testwood does have a Music department for years 7, 8 and 11. Years 9+10 are focusing on BTEC which is why Music is not incorporated into their timetable. For any child wanting to pursue a musical career, there is a BTEC in Perfoming Arts. It seems that you are speaking second hand, The old story of I know someone who went there and they said.......
Yes, it has a music department which was Ofsted'ed a while ago. See the report on the Ofsted website; it was bad too.

This is not something that has suddenly happened overnight, the warning signs were there when the report into music was published.
Probably because they got rid of all the music lessons to pay for some tarmacing.
[quote][p][bold]S Pance[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]solomum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]deepheat[/bold] wrote: You can forget sending your child to this school if they have any ambition of being a musician. They don't have a music department or teachers that can teach music. I know someone that went to Testwood School. They said their last two years at school was so boring, nothing but going over and over subjects for exams, every day was like groundhog day. There was no inspiration from teachers who were just as bored as the Kids they were suppose to be teaching. No wonder pupils just ended up bunking off school. The headmasters of this school, past and present have let so many pupils and parents down over the years.[/p][/quote]Where on earth do you get that information from? Testwood does have a Music department for years 7, 8 and 11. Years 9+10 are focusing on BTEC which is why Music is not incorporated into their timetable. For any child wanting to pursue a musical career, there is a BTEC in Perfoming Arts. It seems that you are speaking second hand, The old story of I know someone who went there and they said.......[/p][/quote]Yes, it has a music department which was Ofsted'ed a while ago. See the report on the Ofsted website; it was bad too. This is not something that has suddenly happened overnight, the warning signs were there when the report into music was published.[/p][/quote]Probably because they got rid of all the music lessons to pay for some tarmacing. Arnold Frontbottom
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