Planning bosses to discuss Southampton Solent University scheme

Hampshire Chronicle: £25m university plan set for go ahead £25m university plan set for go ahead

AMBITIOUS plans for a £25million overhaul of a university in Southampton could be given the green light today.

Southampton Solent University’s ambitious vision for a new teaching hub will go before the city council’s planning panel.

And if they give the plans the go-ahead, it could be just the first step in a major redevelopment of the entire East Park Terrace campus over the next decade.

As previously reported in the Daily Echo, university bosses unveiled their vision for the new hub earlier this year.

Conceived by architects Scott Brownrigg (CORR), the 9,250sq m building would be centred on a distinctive glass atrium, which would link it to the rest of the site.

Sitting next to the Sir John Everett Millais building, the building would also include lecture and seminar facilities, exhibition space, a suspended pod with a viewing platform and state-of-the-art lighting, acoustics and equipment.

If the planning panel approve the plans on Tuesday, the new building could be completed in 2015.

And the hub is only one part of a long-term plan to redevelop Solent’s entire East Park Terrace campus.

Plans are afoot to build a new sports and sports science complex, a plaza and other new facilities for students, staff and visitors.

Speaking earlier this year, university vice-chancellor Van Gore said: “We have commissioned a high-quality building with purpose and flair that should serve our students, our staff and Southampton well into the future.

“Continuing demand for our courses and strong finances make possible this new investment which is in addition to the £20m we have spent on enhancing our facilities over the last five years.

“These include a new media academy with excellent facilities for all our digital and creative courses, a new school of art and design, FA-accredited sports facilities at Test Park, and business start-up pods for student entrepreneurs.

“The new building project follows major investments in our worldleading maritime facilities, including our new engine room simulator, the manned model ship-handling centre near Romsey and the launch of one of the world’s first super yacht academies.”

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5:54am Tue 17 Dec 13

Tony S says...

This "continuing demand and. Strong finances".... It's built on government debt. That debt has to be paid back. If students choose not to earn enough, then everyone else pays.... actually the poorest pay

I do not see the educated offering to pay more tax to help the government out in these tough times. We are instead hitting the poorest and disabled with cuts such as benifits freeze , bedroom tax and changing DLA to PIP in a bid to save money. I wish carers could have the same pay panel as MP's to assess thier pay... £3000 for 24/7 365 care
This "continuing demand and. Strong finances".... It's built on government debt. That debt has to be paid back. If students choose not to earn enough, then everyone else pays.... actually the poorest pay I do not see the educated offering to pay more tax to help the government out in these tough times. We are instead hitting the poorest and disabled with cuts such as benifits freeze , bedroom tax and changing DLA to PIP in a bid to save money. I wish carers could have the same pay panel as MP's to assess thier pay... £3000 for 24/7 365 care Tony S

7:38am Tue 17 Dec 13

skeptik says...

The balance has been out of kilter since we de-industrialized during the 1950/60s. We teach youngsters that if they do not get the 'right' education they will end up doing manual work. Odd that the top economies of the world are not churning out law, social studies and other non wealth creating degrees by the thousandfold. PPE degrees - our future and past leaders- reassuring? Some graduates I have had working for me were brilliant - on paper, the wonder was that they managed to do their shoelaces up yet they were confident that the degree was important, reminded that performance was the benchmark and not a piece of paper with little rarity value when held up against performance - sadly they have been sold the line I have a degree you pay me my worth! The world service recently a Chinese businessman asked why Germany was the most successful exporter in Europe to the Chinese - they send engineers and designers to talk to us - many do not.
The balance has been out of kilter since we de-industrialized during the 1950/60s. We teach youngsters that if they do not get the 'right' education they will end up doing manual work. Odd that the top economies of the world are not churning out law, social studies and other non wealth creating degrees by the thousandfold. PPE degrees - our future and past leaders- reassuring? Some graduates I have had working for me were brilliant - on paper, the wonder was that they managed to do their shoelaces up yet they were confident that the degree was important, reminded that performance was the benchmark and not a piece of paper with little rarity value when held up against performance - sadly they have been sold the line I have a degree you pay me my worth! The world service recently a Chinese businessman asked why Germany was the most successful exporter in Europe to the Chinese - they send engineers and designers to talk to us - many do not. skeptik

8:03am Tue 17 Dec 13

WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER. says...

Tony S wrote:
This "continuing demand and. Strong finances".... It's built on government debt. That debt has to be paid back. If students choose not to earn enough, then everyone else pays.... actually the poorest pay

I do not see the educated offering to pay more tax to help the government out in these tough times. We are instead hitting the poorest and disabled with cuts such as benifits freeze , bedroom tax and changing DLA to PIP in a bid to save money. I wish carers could have the same pay panel as MP's to assess thier pay... £3000 for 24/7 365 care
yes ,850 billion handed to the banks so far ,as cancer patients ,the poor and disabled pay for it , a living disgrace.
[quote][p][bold]Tony S[/bold] wrote: This "continuing demand and. Strong finances".... It's built on government debt. That debt has to be paid back. If students choose not to earn enough, then everyone else pays.... actually the poorest pay I do not see the educated offering to pay more tax to help the government out in these tough times. We are instead hitting the poorest and disabled with cuts such as benifits freeze , bedroom tax and changing DLA to PIP in a bid to save money. I wish carers could have the same pay panel as MP's to assess thier pay... £3000 for 24/7 365 care[/p][/quote]yes ,850 billion handed to the banks so far ,as cancer patients ,the poor and disabled pay for it , a living disgrace. WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER.

8:26am Tue 17 Dec 13

10 Minute Man says...

Tony S wrote:
This "continuing demand and. Strong finances".... It's built on government debt. That debt has to be paid back. If students choose not to earn enough, then everyone else pays.... actually the poorest pay

I do not see the educated offering to pay more tax to help the government out in these tough times. We are instead hitting the poorest and disabled with cuts such as benifits freeze , bedroom tax and changing DLA to PIP in a bid to save money. I wish carers could have the same pay panel as MP's to assess thier pay... £3000 for 24/7 365 care
Students "who choose not to earn enough", very funny. I suspect this is a troll, but you might just be a bit un-educated at least in this regard. These are people who were lucky enough to have the opportunity and then clever and dedicated enough to take it and see it through to a qualification. Its the core of the skills and knowledge economy, the route to prosperity, and why every developing nation is tripping over itself to follow suit.

You seem to be confusing people who are educated and have a half-decent job (50+ hours a week salaried, not hourly waged). with "the rich" or "those who dodge tax", when typically they are in the squeezed middle. They've been moved into the higher tax bracket by the behaviour of the current and previous government, despite falling incomes in real terms, whilst having more and more tax breaks removed. Who are they paying for ? The working and non-working poor, and those in genuine need. Fair enough. But they're also paying for the endless benefits accrued and continually increased for pensioners - yes, those untouchables which all the parties are frightened of offending. This is the subsidy, not the other way around.
[quote][p][bold]Tony S[/bold] wrote: This "continuing demand and. Strong finances".... It's built on government debt. That debt has to be paid back. If students choose not to earn enough, then everyone else pays.... actually the poorest pay I do not see the educated offering to pay more tax to help the government out in these tough times. We are instead hitting the poorest and disabled with cuts such as benifits freeze , bedroom tax and changing DLA to PIP in a bid to save money. I wish carers could have the same pay panel as MP's to assess thier pay... £3000 for 24/7 365 care[/p][/quote]Students "who choose not to earn enough", very funny. I suspect this is a troll, but you might just be a bit un-educated at least in this regard. These are people who were lucky enough to have the opportunity and then clever and dedicated enough to take it and see it through to a qualification. Its the core of the skills and knowledge economy, the route to prosperity, and why every developing nation is tripping over itself to follow suit. You seem to be confusing people who are educated and have a half-decent job (50+ hours a week salaried, not hourly waged). with "the rich" or "those who dodge tax", when typically they are in the squeezed middle. They've been moved into the higher tax bracket by the behaviour of the current and previous government, despite falling incomes in real terms, whilst having more and more tax breaks removed. Who are they paying for ? The working and non-working poor, and those in genuine need. Fair enough. But they're also paying for the endless benefits accrued and continually increased for pensioners - yes, those untouchables which all the parties are frightened of offending. This is the subsidy, not the other way around. 10 Minute Man

9:42am Tue 17 Dec 13

2010chappy says...

skeptik wrote:
The balance has been out of kilter since we de-industrialized during the 1950/60s. We teach youngsters that if they do not get the 'right' education they will end up doing manual work. Odd that the top economies of the world are not churning out law, social studies and other non wealth creating degrees by the thousandfold. PPE degrees - our future and past leaders- reassuring? Some graduates I have had working for me were brilliant - on paper, the wonder was that they managed to do their shoelaces up yet they were confident that the degree was important, reminded that performance was the benchmark and not a piece of paper with little rarity value when held up against performance - sadly they have been sold the line I have a degree you pay me my worth! The world service recently a Chinese businessman asked why Germany was the most successful exporter in Europe to the Chinese - they send engineers and designers to talk to us - many do not.
You show your ignorance of what the university also produces - engineers and designers, not law and social studies. So in that respect we are achieving what you say China likes.

Perhaps if there were some better educated managers in the businesses they would be sending the engineers etc. not the money men for their jolly!!
[quote][p][bold]skeptik[/bold] wrote: The balance has been out of kilter since we de-industrialized during the 1950/60s. We teach youngsters that if they do not get the 'right' education they will end up doing manual work. Odd that the top economies of the world are not churning out law, social studies and other non wealth creating degrees by the thousandfold. PPE degrees - our future and past leaders- reassuring? Some graduates I have had working for me were brilliant - on paper, the wonder was that they managed to do their shoelaces up yet they were confident that the degree was important, reminded that performance was the benchmark and not a piece of paper with little rarity value when held up against performance - sadly they have been sold the line I have a degree you pay me my worth! The world service recently a Chinese businessman asked why Germany was the most successful exporter in Europe to the Chinese - they send engineers and designers to talk to us - many do not.[/p][/quote]You show your ignorance of what the university also produces - engineers and designers, not law and social studies. So in that respect we are achieving what you say China likes. Perhaps if there were some better educated managers in the businesses they would be sending the engineers etc. not the money men for their jolly!! 2010chappy

12:16pm Tue 17 Dec 13

Inform Al says...

It is about time that both the Southampton universities provided sufficient halls of residences for all their students on campus. This would free up desperately needed family homes.
It is about time that both the Southampton universities provided sufficient halls of residences for all their students on campus. This would free up desperately needed family homes. Inform Al

1:35pm Tue 17 Dec 13

southy says...

Tony S wrote:
This "continuing demand and. Strong finances".... It's built on government debt. That debt has to be paid back. If students choose not to earn enough, then everyone else pays.... actually the poorest pay

I do not see the educated offering to pay more tax to help the government out in these tough times. We are instead hitting the poorest and disabled with cuts such as benifits freeze , bedroom tax and changing DLA to PIP in a bid to save money. I wish carers could have the same pay panel as MP's to assess thier pay... £3000 for 24/7 365 care
Do you know who debt this really is that we all got to pay for, the UK as the third largest national dept in the world we are only beaten by Japan and Ireland, Japan economy as been stagnant for 20 years and Ireland been bailed out our time is coming.
Any way the National Debt, if you go back to 1910 Britain never had a debt nor did many other other country's, between 1910 and 1914 (not sure of the year) your big wealthy financiers went to government and and got things change to there liking the way they wanted things to run, the state no longer prints and mints money for the state "The Treasury" , its done by the private sector a plc "Bank of England" and ever since then we had a national debt where the Bankers create debt for the nation and the people have to pay for it
[quote][p][bold]Tony S[/bold] wrote: This "continuing demand and. Strong finances".... It's built on government debt. That debt has to be paid back. If students choose not to earn enough, then everyone else pays.... actually the poorest pay I do not see the educated offering to pay more tax to help the government out in these tough times. We are instead hitting the poorest and disabled with cuts such as benifits freeze , bedroom tax and changing DLA to PIP in a bid to save money. I wish carers could have the same pay panel as MP's to assess thier pay... £3000 for 24/7 365 care[/p][/quote]Do you know who debt this really is that we all got to pay for, the UK as the third largest national dept in the world we are only beaten by Japan and Ireland, Japan economy as been stagnant for 20 years and Ireland been bailed out our time is coming. Any way the National Debt, if you go back to 1910 Britain never had a debt nor did many other other country's, between 1910 and 1914 (not sure of the year) your big wealthy financiers went to government and and got things change to there liking the way they wanted things to run, the state no longer prints and mints money for the state "The Treasury" , its done by the private sector a plc "Bank of England" and ever since then we had a national debt where the Bankers create debt for the nation and the people have to pay for it southy

4:42pm Tue 17 Dec 13

100%HANTSBOY says...

Inform Al wrote:
It is about time that both the Southampton universities provided sufficient halls of residences for all their students on campus. This would free up desperately needed family homes.
No,it will only free up bedsits for the influx of others
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: It is about time that both the Southampton universities provided sufficient halls of residences for all their students on campus. This would free up desperately needed family homes.[/p][/quote]No,it will only free up bedsits for the influx of others 100%HANTSBOY

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