Russian meteor would cause significant deaths if it hit Earth, warns city expert (From Hampshire Chronicle)

So something that could weigh 1000,s of tonnes, is 17,200 miles away, but could be doing 54,000 miles an hour, so if it wanted to it could hit us in less than 20 minutes. No need to worry at all then.

bigfella777 wrote:
So something that could weigh 1000,s of tonnes, is 17,200 miles away, but could be doing 54,000 miles an hour, so if it wanted to it could hit us in less than 20 minutes. No need to worry at all then.

No problem, I'll just stand behind a fella bigger than me

bigfella777 wrote:
So something that could weigh 1000,s of tonnes, is 17,200 miles away, but could be doing 54,000 miles an hour, so if it wanted to it could hit us in less than 20 minutes. No need to worry at all then.

.. 'if it wanted to'????

It's not conscious, you know.
There’s no steering wheel either.

If it had been different, and hit a different area, things could have been different. Cutting edge stuff.

"Russian meteor would cause significant deaths if it hit Earth, warns University of Southampton's Hugh Lewis"

But it's not going to, is it.

Ed; what shall we cover today?
Staff; Let's write a scare story about something that won't happen.
Ed; What, didn't we do zombies yet?
Staff; Probably, but let's do one about a meteor that won't hit Earth, we can write a 'what if' doom mongering story
Ed; Cool, I'll get some scientist to come up with some crap.

freefinker wrote:

bigfella777 wrote:
So something that could weigh 1000,s of tonnes, is 17,200 miles away, but could be doing 54,000 miles an hour, so if it wanted to it could hit us in less than 20 minutes. No need to worry at all then.

.. 'if it wanted to'????

It's not conscious, you know.
There’s no steering wheel either.

But what if the earth 'wobbles' into its path?

freefinker wrote:

bigfella777 wrote: So something that could weigh 1000,s of tonnes, is 17,200 miles away, but could be doing 54,000 miles an hour, so if it wanted to it could hit us in less than 20 minutes. No need to worry at all then.

.. 'if it wanted to'???? It's not conscious, you know. There’s no steering wheel either.

What if it suddenly split in two and one piece came this way?

If it crashed on Eastleigh, could anyone tell the difference?

Eastleigh was safe Mrs Meteorite was driving.

bigfella777 wrote:

freefinker wrote:

bigfella777 wrote: So something that could weigh 1000,s of tonnes, is 17,200 miles away, but could be doing 54,000 miles an hour, so if it wanted to it could hit us in less than 20 minutes. No need to worry at all then.

.. 'if it wanted to'???? It's not conscious, you know. There’s no steering wheel either.

What if it suddenly split in two and one piece came this way?

.. then we’d be ‘doomed’, Captain Mainwaring. LOL

IronLady2010 wrote:

freefinker wrote:

bigfella777 wrote:
So something that could weigh 1000,s of tonnes, is 17,200 miles away, but could be doing 54,000 miles an hour, so if it wanted to it could hit us in less than 20 minutes. No need to worry at all then.

.. 'if it wanted to'????

It's not conscious, you know.
There’s no steering wheel either.

But what if the earth 'wobbles' into its path?

.. ah, good point, forgot to take that into account.

It’s a fairly clear sky so its worth taking a look for the asteroid. Its coming from the east and is expected to be in the vicinity of the plough at around 21:30. The plough is very clear right now and very large in the NE.

So the Russian meteor would cause damage to the Earth if it hit. Is that like the damage it caused when it hit Russia?

stay local wrote:
So the Russian meteor would cause damage to the Earth if it hit. Is that like the damage it caused when it hit Russia?

It broke up and burned before reaching the surface, although there are likely to be a few fragments that landed and the Russians are having a look for them.

Possible sighting of 10 seconds – seemed to be moving but view was not long enough to confirm it was moving relative to nearby stars. Cloud prevented longer sighting.

Nice to see Huey Lewis in the news again.
If this is it.

freefinker wrote:

IronLady2010 wrote:

freefinker wrote:

bigfella777 wrote:
So something that could weigh 1000,s of tonnes, is 17,200 miles away, but could be doing 54,000 miles an hour, so if it wanted to it could hit us in less than 20 minutes. No need to worry at all then.

.. 'if it wanted to'????

It's not conscious, you know.
There’s no steering wheel either.

But what if the earth 'wobbles' into its path?

.. ah, good point, forgot to take that into account.

more likely to happen than your "realms of fantasy" global warming predictions as captain mainwaring would put it

stay local wrote:
So the Russian meteor would cause damage to the Earth if it hit. Is that like the damage it caused when it hit Russia?

And left a 6m hole in a frozen lake?

dango wrote:
"Russian meteor would cause significant deaths if it hit Earth, warns University of Southampton's Hugh Lewis"

But it's not going to, is it.

Ed; what shall we cover today?
Staff; Let's write a scare story about something that won't happen.
Ed; What, didn't we do zombies yet?
Staff; Probably, but let's do one about a meteor that won't hit Earth, we can write a 'what if' doom mongering story
Ed; Cool, I'll get some scientist to come up with some crap.

Err, actually we've just had a stupendous amount of luck with meteors, most either burn up or land in unpopulated areas such as the ocean or desert but there have been some meteorites that have plunged through peoples cars and deep into their drives or flown through peoples roofs before bouncing around a room and landing next to filing cabinets.

Ginger_cyclist wrote:

dango wrote:
"Russian meteor would cause significant deaths if it hit Earth, warns University of Southampton's Hugh Lewis"

But it's not going to, is it.

Ed; what shall we cover today?
Staff; Let's write a scare story about something that won't happen.
Ed; What, didn't we do zombies yet?
Staff; Probably, but let's do one about a meteor that won't hit Earth, we can write a 'what if' doom mongering story
Ed; Cool, I'll get some scientist to come up with some crap.

Err, actually we've just had a stupendous amount of luck with meteors, most either burn up or land in unpopulated areas such as the ocean or desert but there have been some meteorites that have plunged through peoples cars and deep into their drives or flown through peoples roofs before bouncing around a room and landing next to filing cabinets.

God forbid one hits a cyclist!

Why are people calling it a “Russian“ meteor? Do they own it? Is this some sort of conspiracy theory? Doo dah doo dah!

dango wrote:
"Russian meteor would cause significant deaths if it hit Earth, warns University of Southampton's Hugh Lewis"

But it's not going to, is it.

Ed; what shall we cover today?
Staff; Let's write a scare story about something that won't happen.
Ed; What, didn't we do zombies yet?
Staff; Probably, but let's do one about a meteor that won't hit Earth, we can write a 'what if' doom mongering story
Ed; Cool, I'll get some scientist to come up with some crap.

You are completely right......it just isn't news cause it never was gonna happen.

I always thought that if they had a 'no news day' they always think of more annoying adverts to slow the website down & keep telling me about 'cookies'.

SOULJACKER wrote:

dango wrote:
"Russian meteor would cause significant deaths if it hit Earth, warns University of Southampton's Hugh Lewis"

But it's not going to, is it.

Ed; what shall we cover today?
Staff; Let's write a scare story about something that won't happen.
Ed; What, didn't we do zombies yet?
Staff; Probably, but let's do one about a meteor that won't hit Earth, we can write a 'what if' doom mongering story
Ed; Cool, I'll get some scientist to come up with some crap.

You are completely right......it just isn't news cause it never was gonna happen.

I always thought that if they had a 'no news day' they always think of more annoying adverts to slow the website down & keep telling me about 'cookies'.

Use AdBlock. No ads on this page for me. :-)

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"Russian meteor would cause significant deaths if it hit Earth"

Well, it's a real stroke of good fortune that we have an "atmosphere" then isn't it!

S!monOn wrote:
Why are people calling it a “Russian“ meteor? Do they own it? Is this some sort of conspiracy theory? Doo dah doo dah!

They do now wether they like it or not, will this bring down the price in meteor rocks ?

In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor.
I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about.

wossit wrote:

S!monOn wrote:
Why are people calling it a “Russian“ meteor? Do they own it? Is this some sort of conspiracy theory? Doo dah doo dah!

They do now wether they like it or not, will this bring down the price in meteor rocks ?

They often contain rare elements if I remember correctly, so the fragments may well be worth a fair few bob.

southy wrote:
In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor.
I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about.

.. no, you're talking rubbish.

What if it was venom ? Ive sene the film and read the comics... BE WARNED

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:
In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor.
I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about.

.. no, you're talking rubbish.

And you know this how, not even the experts know where this metor came from.
But compare it with the 1908 metor that exploded over Russia like this one did, the one in 1908 exploded closer to the ground it flattened a forest for miles around, luckly no one was around that they know off when it happened only the after effects are recorded.
The make of the two are close in size, and what they are made up from.
And the only real way to tell is wait for another 115 years to see if it happens again.
So rubbish it is not, only a posability it could be.

Join two points of data, and claiming it's a pattern? That's just bonkers frankly. Quite funny though.

southy wrote:

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:
In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor.
I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about.

.. no, you're talking rubbish.

And you know this how, not even the experts know where this metor came from.
But compare it with the 1908 metor that exploded over Russia like this one did, the one in 1908 exploded closer to the ground it flattened a forest for miles around, luckly no one was around that they know off when it happened only the after effects are recorded.
The make of the two are close in size, and what they are made up from.
And the only real way to tell is wait for another 115 years to see if it happens again.
So rubbish it is not, only a posability it could be.

.. southy, you obviously don't have the faintest idea what you are talking about. The 1908 Tunguska event was the result of a meteoroid (or possibly a comet) exploding in the atmosphere. That was the final act of this meteoroid. It can’t come back over 100 years later and repeat the same event; it’s already totally destroyed.

The 2013 Chelyabinsk event was, thus, obviously by definition a totally different meteoroid, which also exploded in the atmosphere. These events happen all the time, although granted the 1908 and 2013 events were both large meteoroids by the standards of human life expectancy. You can in no way connect ANY of the meteoroids that explode in our atmosphere with each other (unless they happen within minutes or at the most hours of each other – but certainly not centuries).

Where you are getting confused is with shooting stars. These are minute grains of particles that flow from the tails of comets. Often the Earth’s orbit passes through these remnants of a comet tail, giving us regular annual spectaculars.

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:
In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor.
I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about.

.. no, you're talking rubbish.

No, nothing new there then!
When I try to read a Southy comment I find that it helps to imagine it being spoken with a heavy Hampshire accent, unfortunately on this occasion even that does not work.
What is an accounter? Does anyone know?

X Old Bill wrote:

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:
In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor.
I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about.

.. no, you're talking rubbish.

No, nothing new there then!
When I try to read a Southy comment I find that it helps to imagine it being spoken with a heavy Hampshire accent, unfortunately on this occasion even that does not work.
What is an accounter? Does anyone know?

.. ye don't kno wot a accounter is? oh ah. Praps southy ul esplain.

southy wrote:

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:
In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor.
I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about.

.. no, you're talking rubbish.

And you know this how, not even the experts know where this metor came from.
But compare it with the 1908 metor that exploded over Russia like this one did, the one in 1908 exploded closer to the ground it flattened a forest for miles around, luckly no one was around that they know off when it happened only the after effects are recorded.
The make of the two are close in size, and what they are made up from.
And the only real way to tell is wait for another 115 years to see if it happens again.
So rubbish it is not, only a posability it could be.

Are you actually for real? No one can actually be this dumb, not even someone from Southampton!

kingnotail wrote:

southy wrote:

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:
In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor.
I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about.

.. no, you're talking rubbish.

And you know this how, not even the experts know where this metor came from.
But compare it with the 1908 metor that exploded over Russia like this one did, the one in 1908 exploded closer to the ground it flattened a forest for miles around, luckly no one was around that they know off when it happened only the after effects are recorded.
The make of the two are close in size, and what they are made up from.
And the only real way to tell is wait for another 115 years to see if it happens again.
So rubbish it is not, only a posability it could be.

Are you actually for real? No one can actually be this dumb, not even someone from Southampton!

I don't know Kingtail, you must be the dumb one living in a City you hate! MOVE AWAY!

IronLady2010 wrote:

kingnotail wrote:

southy wrote:

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:
In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor.
I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about.

.. no, you're talking rubbish.

And you know this how, not even the experts know where this metor came from.
But compare it with the 1908 metor that exploded over Russia like this one did, the one in 1908 exploded closer to the ground it flattened a forest for miles around, luckly no one was around that they know off when it happened only the after effects are recorded.
The make of the two are close in size, and what they are made up from.
And the only real way to tell is wait for another 115 years to see if it happens again.
So rubbish it is not, only a posability it could be.

Are you actually for real? No one can actually be this dumb, not even someone from Southampton!

I don't know Kingtail, you must be the dumb one living in a City you hate! MOVE AWAY!

Believe me, I'm counting down the days now.

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:
In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor.
I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about.

.. no, you're talking rubbish.

And you know this how, not even the experts know where this metor came from.
But compare it with the 1908 metor that exploded over Russia like this one did, the one in 1908 exploded closer to the ground it flattened a forest for miles around, luckly no one was around that they know off when it happened only the after effects are recorded.
The make of the two are close in size, and what they are made up from.
And the only real way to tell is wait for another 115 years to see if it happens again.
So rubbish it is not, only a posability it could be.

.. southy, you obviously don't have the faintest idea what you are talking about. The 1908 Tunguska event was the result of a meteoroid (or possibly a comet) exploding in the atmosphere. That was the final act of this meteoroid. It can’t come back over 100 years later and repeat the same event; it’s already totally destroyed.

The 2013 Chelyabinsk event was, thus, obviously by definition a totally different meteoroid, which also exploded in the atmosphere. These events happen all the time, although granted the 1908 and 2013 events were both large meteoroids by the standards of human life expectancy. You can in no way connect ANY of the meteoroids that explode in our atmosphere with each other (unless they happen within minutes or at the most hours of each other – but certainly not centuries).

Where you are getting confused is with shooting stars. These are minute grains of particles that flow from the tails of comets. Often the Earth’s orbit passes through these remnants of a comet tail, giving us regular annual spectaculars.

nor do you it seems, comets and meteorioids can travel in groups also, even lo we never seen a group of comets but it is possible, but we have seen groups of meteroids traveling together. and there is a big posability that the 1908 and the 2013 could be interlink, these smaller objects are not watch and just lately theres been a number of metors reports, theres been 3 in Canada in the last 4 mths we see one here in the uk not so long ago of the western shore.
Metors have orbits to, and it is posible that every so often we pass though group of metors.

kingnotail wrote:

southy wrote:

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:
In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor.
I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about.

.. no, you're talking rubbish.

And you know this how, not even the experts know where this metor came from.
But compare it with the 1908 metor that exploded over Russia like this one did, the one in 1908 exploded closer to the ground it flattened a forest for miles around, luckly no one was around that they know off when it happened only the after effects are recorded.
The make of the two are close in size, and what they are made up from.
And the only real way to tell is wait for another 115 years to see if it happens again.
So rubbish it is not, only a posability it could be.

Are you actually for real? No one can actually be this dumb, not even someone from Southampton!

.. yep, southy is for real.

He believes, amongst other things, that: -
Comets are Brown Dwarfs.
The Moon causes earthquakes.
The Keeling Curve is caused by volcanism.
63% of the population of N Ireland are under 18.
Sulphur is the biggest cause of cancer.
Atmospheric CO2 is less now than 100 years ago.
Etc. ad infinitum.

southy wrote:

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:
In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor.
I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about.

.. no, you're talking rubbish.

And you know this how, not even the experts know where this metor came from.
But compare it with the 1908 metor that exploded over Russia like this one did, the one in 1908 exploded closer to the ground it flattened a forest for miles around, luckly no one was around that they know off when it happened only the after effects are recorded.
The make of the two are close in size, and what they are made up from.
And the only real way to tell is wait for another 115 years to see if it happens again.
So rubbish it is not, only a posability it could be.

.. southy, you obviously don't have the faintest idea what you are talking about. The 1908 Tunguska event was the result of a meteoroid (or possibly a comet) exploding in the atmosphere. That was the final act of this meteoroid. It can’t come back over 100 years later and repeat the same event; it’s already totally destroyed.

The 2013 Chelyabinsk event was, thus, obviously by definition a totally different meteoroid, which also exploded in the atmosphere. These events happen all the time, although granted the 1908 and 2013 events were both large meteoroids by the standards of human life expectancy. You can in no way connect ANY of the meteoroids that explode in our atmosphere with each other (unless they happen within minutes or at the most hours of each other – but certainly not centuries).

Where you are getting confused is with shooting stars. These are minute grains of particles that flow from the tails of comets. Often the Earth’s orbit passes through these remnants of a comet tail, giving us regular annual spectaculars.

nor do you it seems, comets and meteorioids can travel in groups also, even lo we never seen a group of comets but it is possible, but we have seen groups of meteroids traveling together. and there is a big posability that the 1908 and the 2013 could be interlink, these smaller objects are not watch and just lately theres been a number of metors reports, theres been 3 in Canada in the last 4 mths we see one here in the uk not so long ago of the western shore.
Metors have orbits to, and it is posible that every so often we pass though group of metors.

.. oh, wow; keep digging.

What part of 'these events happen all the time' did you not understand? By 'all the time' I mean just that, from our planetary origins 4.6 billion years ago to the far distant future when our Sun runs out of fuel and becomes a Red Giant that engulfs our small rocky planet.

These strikes are VERY infrequently linked, and when they are it results several hits over a period of minutes or hours. Once a meteoroid has entered our atmosphere and exploded it is no more; it's not pining to come back in 105 years, it's passed on. This meteoroid is no more! It has ceased to be. It's expired and gone to meet its maker. This is a late meteoroid. It's a stiff. Bereft of life, it rests in peace. (with apologies to Monty Python)

What bit of this do you not understand? Your scientific illiteracy seems to know no bounds.

freefinker wrote:

kingnotail wrote:

southy wrote:

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:
In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor.
I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about.

.. no, you're talking rubbish.

And you know this how, not even the experts know where this metor came from.
But compare it with the 1908 metor that exploded over Russia like this one did, the one in 1908 exploded closer to the ground it flattened a forest for miles around, luckly no one was around that they know off when it happened only the after effects are recorded.
The make of the two are close in size, and what they are made up from.
And the only real way to tell is wait for another 115 years to see if it happens again.
So rubbish it is not, only a posability it could be.

Are you actually for real? No one can actually be this dumb, not even someone from Southampton!

.. yep, southy is for real.

He believes, amongst other things, that: -
Comets are Brown Dwarfs.
The Moon causes earthquakes.
The Keeling Curve is caused by volcanism.
63% of the population of N Ireland are under 18.
Sulphur is the biggest cause of cancer.
Atmospheric CO2 is less now than 100 years ago.
Etc. ad infinitum.

.. oh, I forgot this classic: -
Oxygen can become CO2 without adding carbon.
Incredible, isn't it?

freefinker wrote:

freefinker wrote:

kingnotail wrote:

southy wrote:

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:
In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor.
I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about.

.. no, you're talking rubbish.

And you know this how, not even the experts know where this metor came from.
But compare it with the 1908 metor that exploded over Russia like this one did, the one in 1908 exploded closer to the ground it flattened a forest for miles around, luckly no one was around that they know off when it happened only the after effects are recorded.
The make of the two are close in size, and what they are made up from.
And the only real way to tell is wait for another 115 years to see if it happens again.
So rubbish it is not, only a posability it could be.

Are you actually for real? No one can actually be this dumb, not even someone from Southampton!

.. yep, southy is for real.

He believes, amongst other things, that: -
Comets are Brown Dwarfs.
The Moon causes earthquakes.
The Keeling Curve is caused by volcanism.
63% of the population of N Ireland are under 18.
Sulphur is the biggest cause of cancer.
Atmospheric CO2 is less now than 100 years ago.
Etc. ad infinitum.

.. oh, I forgot this classic: -
Oxygen can become CO2 without adding carbon.
Incredible, isn't it?

I hope Southy will continue in his new way of saying 'Yep I got it wrong'.

In the meantime I'll pay my Local Council Tax to Central Government!

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:
In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor.
I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about.

.. no, you're talking rubbish.

And you know this how, not even the experts know where this metor came from.
But compare it with the 1908 metor that exploded over Russia like this one did, the one in 1908 exploded closer to the ground it flattened a forest for miles around, luckly no one was around that they know off when it happened only the after effects are recorded.
The make of the two are close in size, and what they are made up from.
And the only real way to tell is wait for another 115 years to see if it happens again.
So rubbish it is not, only a posability it could be.

.. southy, you obviously don't have the faintest idea what you are talking about. The 1908 Tunguska event was the result of a meteoroid (or possibly a comet) exploding in the atmosphere. That was the final act of this meteoroid. It can’t come back over 100 years later and repeat the same event; it’s already totally destroyed.

The 2013 Chelyabinsk event was, thus, obviously by definition a totally different meteoroid, which also exploded in the atmosphere. These events happen all the time, although granted the 1908 and 2013 events were both large meteoroids by the standards of human life expectancy. You can in no way connect ANY of the meteoroids that explode in our atmosphere with each other (unless they happen within minutes or at the most hours of each other – but certainly not centuries).

Where you are getting confused is with shooting stars. These are minute grains of particles that flow from the tails of comets. Often the Earth’s orbit passes through these remnants of a comet tail, giving us regular annual spectaculars.

nor do you it seems, comets and meteorioids can travel in groups also, even lo we never seen a group of comets but it is possible, but we have seen groups of meteroids traveling together. and there is a big posability that the 1908 and the 2013 could be interlink, these smaller objects are not watch and just lately theres been a number of metors reports, theres been 3 in Canada in the last 4 mths we see one here in the uk not so long ago of the western shore.
Metors have orbits to, and it is posible that every so often we pass though group of metors.

.. oh, wow; keep digging.

What part of 'these events happen all the time' did you not understand? By 'all the time' I mean just that, from our planetary origins 4.6 billion years ago to the far distant future when our Sun runs out of fuel and becomes a Red Giant that engulfs our small rocky planet.

These strikes are VERY infrequently linked, and when they are it results several hits over a period of minutes or hours. Once a meteoroid has entered our atmosphere and exploded it is no more; it's not pining to come back in 105 years, it's passed on. This meteoroid is no more! It has ceased to be. It's expired and gone to meet its maker. This is a late meteoroid. It's a stiff. Bereft of life, it rests in peace. (with apologies to Monty Python)

What bit of this do you not understand? Your scientific illiteracy seems to know no bounds.

Actually I'm going to agree with southy on this as it has been found that meteoroids CAN have a "family" created from one larger meteoroid that collided with another and sometimes clusters do get sent flying towards us, southy is also right that meteoroids have an orbit around the sun just like a comet (even though a comet is still technically an asteroid) and these asteroids do sometimes orbit in spread out groups that follow the same orbit and if the composition of a recent meteorite matches closely to that of a much older one then it's quite a safe bet that they were from the same asteroid "family" but of course, as you rightly say, the only ones we can be sure of being related are the particles trailing behind stellar bodies such as Hailey's comet but you can also say that such objects are leftovers from when the solar system was formed, also the 1908 meteoroid exploded at around 5 or 6Km above the surface releasing twice the explosive energy as the Tsar nuclear bomb released, the recent meteoroid exploded at around 10 to 15Km above the surface but still releasing about the same amount of energy as the 1908 meteoroid which resulted in a huge sonic shockwave (also known as a sonic boom) that caused injuries through breaking windows that then shattered and fell and no, I'm not saying they ARE the same one, just that they could be parts of a much bigger asteroid that collided with another.

IronLady2010 wrote:

Ginger_cyclist wrote:

dango wrote:
"Russian meteor would cause significant deaths if it hit Earth, warns University of Southampton's Hugh Lewis"

But it's not going to, is it.

Ed; what shall we cover today?
Staff; Let's write a scare story about something that won't happen.
Ed; What, didn't we do zombies yet?
Staff; Probably, but let's do one about a meteor that won't hit Earth, we can write a 'what if' doom mongering story
Ed; Cool, I'll get some scientist to come up with some crap.

Err, actually we've just had a stupendous amount of luck with meteors, most either burn up or land in unpopulated areas such as the ocean or desert but there have been some meteorites that have plunged through peoples cars and deep into their drives or flown through peoples roofs before bouncing around a room and landing next to filing cabinets.

God forbid one hits a cyclist!

It's possible, people have been hit by tiny ones before or been close to being hit.

Ginger_cyclist wrote:

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:
In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor.
I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about.

.. no, you're talking rubbish.

And you know this how, not even the experts know where this metor came from.
But compare it with the 1908 metor that exploded over Russia like this one did, the one in 1908 exploded closer to the ground it flattened a forest for miles around, luckly no one was around that they know off when it happened only the after effects are recorded.
The make of the two are close in size, and what they are made up from.
And the only real way to tell is wait for another 115 years to see if it happens again.
So rubbish it is not, only a posability it could be.

.. southy, you obviously don't have the faintest idea what you are talking about. The 1908 Tunguska event was the result of a meteoroid (or possibly a comet) exploding in the atmosphere. That was the final act of this meteoroid. It can’t come back over 100 years later and repeat the same event; it’s already totally destroyed.

The 2013 Chelyabinsk event was, thus, obviously by definition a totally different meteoroid, which also exploded in the atmosphere. These events happen all the time, although granted the 1908 and 2013 events were both large meteoroids by the standards of human life expectancy. You can in no way connect ANY of the meteoroids that explode in our atmosphere with each other (unless they happen within minutes or at the most hours of each other – but certainly not centuries).

Where you are getting confused is with shooting stars. These are minute grains of particles that flow from the tails of comets. Often the Earth’s orbit passes through these remnants of a comet tail, giving us regular annual spectaculars.

nor do you it seems, comets and meteorioids can travel in groups also, even lo we never seen a group of comets but it is possible, but we have seen groups of meteroids traveling together. and there is a big posability that the 1908 and the 2013 could be interlink, these smaller objects are not watch and just lately theres been a number of metors reports, theres been 3 in Canada in the last 4 mths we see one here in the uk not so long ago of the western shore.
Metors have orbits to, and it is posible that every so often we pass though group of metors.

.. oh, wow; keep digging.

What part of 'these events happen all the time' did you not understand? By 'all the time' I mean just that, from our planetary origins 4.6 billion years ago to the far distant future when our Sun runs out of fuel and becomes a Red Giant that engulfs our small rocky planet.

These strikes are VERY infrequently linked, and when they are it results several hits over a period of minutes or hours. Once a meteoroid has entered our atmosphere and exploded it is no more; it's not pining to come back in 105 years, it's passed on. This meteoroid is no more! It has ceased to be. It's expired and gone to meet its maker. This is a late meteoroid. It's a stiff. Bereft of life, it rests in peace. (with apologies to Monty Python)

What bit of this do you not understand? Your scientific illiteracy seems to know no bounds.

Actually I'm going to agree with southy on this as it has been found that meteoroids CAN have a "family" created from one larger meteoroid that collided with another and sometimes clusters do get sent flying towards us, southy is also right that meteoroids have an orbit around the sun just like a comet (even though a comet is still technically an asteroid) and these asteroids do sometimes orbit in spread out groups that follow the same orbit and if the composition of a recent meteorite matches closely to that of a much older one then it's quite a safe bet that they were from the same asteroid "family" but of course, as you rightly say, the only ones we can be sure of being related are the particles trailing behind stellar bodies such as Hailey's comet but you can also say that such objects are leftovers from when the solar system was formed, also the 1908 meteoroid exploded at around 5 or 6Km above the surface releasing twice the explosive energy as the Tsar nuclear bomb released, the recent meteoroid exploded at around 10 to 15Km above the surface but still releasing about the same amount of energy as the 1908 meteoroid which resulted in a huge sonic shockwave (also known as a sonic boom) that caused injuries through breaking windows that then shattered and fell and no, I'm not saying they ARE the same one, just that they could be parts of a much bigger asteroid that collided with another.

.. are you sure you're not a genetic clone of southy?

Total unintelligible rubbish, and with only one full stop.

freefinker wrote:

kingnotail wrote:

southy wrote:

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:
In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor.
I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about.

.. no, you're talking rubbish.

And you know this how, not even the experts know where this metor came from.
But compare it with the 1908 metor that exploded over Russia like this one did, the one in 1908 exploded closer to the ground it flattened a forest for miles around, luckly no one was around that they know off when it happened only the after effects are recorded.
The make of the two are close in size, and what they are made up from.
And the only real way to tell is wait for another 115 years to see if it happens again.
So rubbish it is not, only a posability it could be.

Are you actually for real? No one can actually be this dumb, not even someone from Southampton!

.. yep, southy is for real.

He believes, amongst other things, that: -
Comets are Brown Dwarfs.
The Moon causes earthquakes.
The Keeling Curve is caused by volcanism.
63% of the population of N Ireland are under 18.
Sulphur is the biggest cause of cancer.
Atmospheric CO2 is less now than 100 years ago.
Etc. ad infinitum.

Fluoride used for water fluoridation is 'a different kind of fluoride'..

freefinker wrote:

Ginger_cyclist wrote:

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:
In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor.
I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about.

.. no, you're talking rubbish.

And you know this how, not even the experts know where this metor came from.
But compare it with the 1908 metor that exploded over Russia like this one did, the one in 1908 exploded closer to the ground it flattened a forest for miles around, luckly no one was around that they know off when it happened only the after effects are recorded.
The make of the two are close in size, and what they are made up from.
And the only real way to tell is wait for another 115 years to see if it happens again.
So rubbish it is not, only a posability it could be.

.. southy, you obviously don't have the faintest idea what you are talking about. The 1908 Tunguska event was the result of a meteoroid (or possibly a comet) exploding in the atmosphere. That was the final act of this meteoroid. It can’t come back over 100 years later and repeat the same event; it’s already totally destroyed.

The 2013 Chelyabinsk event was, thus, obviously by definition a totally different meteoroid, which also exploded in the atmosphere. These events happen all the time, although granted the 1908 and 2013 events were both large meteoroids by the standards of human life expectancy. You can in no way connect ANY of the meteoroids that explode in our atmosphere with each other (unless they happen within minutes or at the most hours of each other – but certainly not centuries).

Where you are getting confused is with shooting stars. These are minute grains of particles that flow from the tails of comets. Often the Earth’s orbit passes through these remnants of a comet tail, giving us regular annual spectaculars.

nor do you it seems, comets and meteorioids can travel in groups also, even lo we never seen a group of comets but it is possible, but we have seen groups of meteroids traveling together. and there is a big posability that the 1908 and the 2013 could be interlink, these smaller objects are not watch and just lately theres been a number of metors reports, theres been 3 in Canada in the last 4 mths we see one here in the uk not so long ago of the western shore.
Metors have orbits to, and it is posible that every so often we pass though group of metors.

.. oh, wow; keep digging.

What part of 'these events happen all the time' did you not understand? By 'all the time' I mean just that, from our planetary origins 4.6 billion years ago to the far distant future when our Sun runs out of fuel and becomes a Red Giant that engulfs our small rocky planet.

These strikes are VERY infrequently linked, and when they are it results several hits over a period of minutes or hours. Once a meteoroid has entered our atmosphere and exploded it is no more; it's not pining to come back in 105 years, it's passed on. This meteoroid is no more! It has ceased to be. It's expired and gone to meet its maker. This is a late meteoroid. It's a stiff. Bereft of life, it rests in peace. (with apologies to Monty Python)

What bit of this do you not understand? Your scientific illiteracy seems to know no bounds.

Actually I'm going to agree with southy on this as it has been found that meteoroids CAN have a "family" created from one larger meteoroid that collided with another and sometimes clusters do get sent flying towards us, southy is also right that meteoroids have an orbit around the sun just like a comet (even though a comet is still technically an asteroid) and these asteroids do sometimes orbit in spread out groups that follow the same orbit and if the composition of a recent meteorite matches closely to that of a much older one then it's quite a safe bet that they were from the same asteroid "family" but of course, as you rightly say, the only ones we can be sure of being related are the particles trailing behind stellar bodies such as Hailey's comet but you can also say that such objects are leftovers from when the solar system was formed, also the 1908 meteoroid exploded at around 5 or 6Km above the surface releasing twice the explosive energy as the Tsar nuclear bomb released, the recent meteoroid exploded at around 10 to 15Km above the surface but still releasing about the same amount of energy as the 1908 meteoroid which resulted in a huge sonic shockwave (also known as a sonic boom) that caused injuries through breaking windows that then shattered and fell and no, I'm not saying they ARE the same one, just that they could be parts of a much bigger asteroid that collided with another.

.. are you sure you're not a genetic clone of southy?

Total unintelligible rubbish, and with only one full stop.

More like you don't have the capacity to understand it or learn to understand it.

Ginger_cyclist wrote:

freefinker wrote:

Ginger_cyclist wrote:

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:
In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor.
I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about.

.. no, you're talking rubbish.

And you know this how, not even the experts know where this metor came from.
But compare it with the 1908 metor that exploded over Russia like this one did, the one in 1908 exploded closer to the ground it flattened a forest for miles around, luckly no one was around that they know off when it happened only the after effects are recorded.
The make of the two are close in size, and what they are made up from.
And the only real way to tell is wait for another 115 years to see if it happens again.
So rubbish it is not, only a posability it could be.

.. southy, you obviously don't have the faintest idea what you are talking about. The 1908 Tunguska event was the result of a meteoroid (or possibly a comet) exploding in the atmosphere. That was the final act of this meteoroid. It can’t come back over 100 years later and repeat the same event; it’s already totally destroyed.

The 2013 Chelyabinsk event was, thus, obviously by definition a totally different meteoroid, which also exploded in the atmosphere. These events happen all the time, although granted the 1908 and 2013 events were both large meteoroids by the standards of human life expectancy. You can in no way connect ANY of the meteoroids that explode in our atmosphere with each other (unless they happen within minutes or at the most hours of each other – but certainly not centuries).

Where you are getting confused is with shooting stars. These are minute grains of particles that flow from the tails of comets. Often the Earth’s orbit passes through these remnants of a comet tail, giving us regular annual spectaculars.

nor do you it seems, comets and meteorioids can travel in groups also, even lo we never seen a group of comets but it is possible, but we have seen groups of meteroids traveling together. and there is a big posability that the 1908 and the 2013 could be interlink, these smaller objects are not watch and just lately theres been a number of metors reports, theres been 3 in Canada in the last 4 mths we see one here in the uk not so long ago of the western shore.
Metors have orbits to, and it is posible that every so often we pass though group of metors.

.. oh, wow; keep digging.

What part of 'these events happen all the time' did you not understand? By 'all the time' I mean just that, from our planetary origins 4.6 billion years ago to the far distant future when our Sun runs out of fuel and becomes a Red Giant that engulfs our small rocky planet.

These strikes are VERY infrequently linked, and when they are it results several hits over a period of minutes or hours. Once a meteoroid has entered our atmosphere and exploded it is no more; it's not pining to come back in 105 years, it's passed on. This meteoroid is no more! It has ceased to be. It's expired and gone to meet its maker. This is a late meteoroid. It's a stiff. Bereft of life, it rests in peace. (with apologies to Monty Python)

What bit of this do you not understand? Your scientific illiteracy seems to know no bounds.

Actually I'm going to agree with southy on this as it has been found that meteoroids CAN have a "family" created from one larger meteoroid that collided with another and sometimes clusters do get sent flying towards us, southy is also right that meteoroids have an orbit around the sun just like a comet (even though a comet is still technically an asteroid) and these asteroids do sometimes orbit in spread out groups that follow the same orbit and if the composition of a recent meteorite matches closely to that of a much older one then it's quite a safe bet that they were from the same asteroid "family" but of course, as you rightly say, the only ones we can be sure of being related are the particles trailing behind stellar bodies such as Hailey's comet but you can also say that such objects are leftovers from when the solar system was formed, also the 1908 meteoroid exploded at around 5 or 6Km above the surface releasing twice the explosive energy as the Tsar nuclear bomb released, the recent meteoroid exploded at around 10 to 15Km above the surface but still releasing about the same amount of energy as the 1908 meteoroid which resulted in a huge sonic shockwave (also known as a sonic boom) that caused injuries through breaking windows that then shattered and fell and no, I'm not saying they ARE the same one, just that they could be parts of a much bigger asteroid that collided with another.

.. are you sure you're not a genetic clone of southy?

Total unintelligible rubbish, and with only one full stop.

More like you don't have the capacity to understand it or learn to understand it.

Far, far from it.

But you show your ignorance, southy style, when you say things like 'a comet is still technically an asteroid' and 'if the composition of a recent meteorite matches closely to that of a much older one then it's quite a safe bet that they were from the same asteroid'.

Like southy, you have read news reports on some of these issues over the years, failed to totally grasp the science behind these reports (if the news item ever made this science clear) and then, years later, have regurgitated and conflated random bits of several stories into one huge incoherent heap of unintelligible rubbish.

By the way - Edmond Halley, the astronomer after whom the famous comet was named, pronounced his name with first syllable as Hall, and maybe Hal, but certainly not as hail.

The only comets named after anyone called Haley (to rhyme with hail) were a rock and roll band of the 1950s.