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Southampton taxi chiefs hit out at £15K transport review

Taxi trade survey 'flawed' Taxi trade survey 'flawed'

Taxi trade leaders have called a survey that could flood Southampton with more cabs “flawed”.

Trade representatives have spoken out as consultants prepare to release the findings of a review into the number of hail and ride cabs in the city. They fear more taxis will make it even harder for struggling cabbies to make ends meet.

Transport consultants Halcrow have been paid £15,000 to recommend whether or not a limit of 282 Hackney Carriages in the city should be raised.

Three years ago the council agreed to issue 19 more lucrative taxi licences – worth up to £35,000 on the open market – in a controversial secret lottery exposed by the Daily Echo.

But trade bodies said the findings of the latest survey will be skewed because it was carried out before the last eight new plates were issued in December.

Perry McMillan, from the taxi section of the Unite union asked: “Why commission a survey out on the streets throughout November, if you’re not going to take account of the impact of eight more plates going on in December?” he said.

“If they had held off until April or May at least it would have been a true reflection of things. The whole survey is flawed,” he said.

Ian Hall, chairman of the Hackney Carriage Association, said: “As far as we’re concerned the survey wasn’t done correctly. We will challenge the findings.

“We don’t need any more cars with drivers struggling in the worst recession we’ve had since the 1930s. We need more taxi ranks.”

But Clive Johnson, chairman of the Southampton Trade Association, which has around 450 members including 100 Hackney Carriage drivers, said: “I don't believe we should be jumping up and down before we get the result in.

"The way the economy is I can't believe there is a shortage of taxis. There is a shortage of customers. I'm confident the findings will show there is no unmet demand for taxis.”

Under Government guidelines Southampton City Council must show that retaining a limit on the number of taxis in the city benefits customers.

The number of licensed private hire vehicles – more than 550 - is not limited.

Council leader Royston Smith said: “These independent reports need to be undertaken every three years by councils which have limited taxi plates to see whether those limits are still the right number. Any criticism of this report is bizarre as we have not even seen the findings yet.

“Of course this report will take into account all of the relevant factors including the current increase in plates since the last review.”

The findings of the Halcrow review will be put before councillors later this year to decide whether to issue more licences.

Comments(13)

bigfella777 says...
1:42pm Thu 9 Feb 12

Its not the amount of taxis that needs regulating its the hours they work.Some drivers are working 24 hours straight, it doesn't give anyone else a chance.It needs sorting out now before there is an accident.

-stiv- says...
2:00pm Thu 9 Feb 12

Taxi drivers appear to have gotten considerably worse in recent years in Southampton. You'd think they'd be better drivers doing it for a living every day.

When I'm about on my bike it's like the Wacky Races.

forestexbury says...
3:18pm Thu 9 Feb 12

Have a look at Blechendyn Terrace..... they are forever parking on double yellow lines and obstructing the highway for buses and other traffic. And what gets done about it? Nothing........

bazzeroz says...
4:08pm Thu 9 Feb 12

Not sure if this is still in the 'Hackney' rules but even today (correct me if I'm wrong) a hackney cab still has to carry a bale of hay for the horse! If this rule is still in use then don't you think the survey is flawed as well as the 'rules'?

beiroot says...
4:17pm Thu 9 Feb 12

Apparently that is now not the case,nor are drivers allowed to pee against the nearside wheel.A lot of the original laws are still relevent.Google "Town Police Clauses Act 1876" for more info.

British asian says...
4:22pm Thu 9 Feb 12

forestexbury wrote:
Have a look at Blechendyn Terrace..... they are forever parking on double yellow lines and obstructing the highway for buses and other traffic. And what gets done about it? Nothing........
That is exactly the result of no work so more taxis waiting on ranks, 60 taxis have come on in the past 12 years but rank space has been reduced by the council highways. Hence long lines of taxis waiting. So move them on where???? They do not like parking on yellow lines but then again they are only there briefly unlike shoppers and theatre goers.

British asian says...
4:25pm Thu 9 Feb 12

beiroot wrote:
Apparently that is now not the case,nor are drivers allowed to pee against the nearside wheel.A lot of the original laws are still relevent.Google "Town Police Clauses Act 1876" for more info.
It is town police clauses act 1847!

j1306 says...
6:22pm Thu 9 Feb 12

the problem is that to many greedy plate holders feather their own nest if we followed oft and government advice and delimited then the cabs become cheaper
rents in southampton are dearer than london why ? because there is no limit in london or eastleigh or iow or new forest or winchester etc etc they are plenty of very rich people in taxis but none drive them ! gov guidelines state that the only reason to keep a limit is in the interest of public safety how can it be unsafe to have more taxis ? the good guys that work decently will survive and the sharks will sink thats democracy at work

j1306 says...
6:25pm Thu 9 Feb 12

does ian hall mention that he was one of the lucky few to to get a free plate in the draw he was talking about

cowley says...
6:46pm Thu 9 Feb 12

if the plates are changing hands for £35k and they belong to the council who gets the money? The council?

acid drop says...
8:18pm Thu 9 Feb 12

-stiv- wrote:
Taxi drivers appear to have gotten considerably worse in recent years in Southampton. You'd think they'd be better drivers doing it for a living every day.

When I'm about on my bike it's like the Wacky Races.
Yes and these are ''meant'' to be professional drivers. Professional my arse

G0Rf says...
9:46pm Thu 9 Feb 12

Ive got in a taxi at the taxi rank afrer queuing for ages after a night out to only be kicked out down the road and told that the driver was too busy to go to romsey.
queued again and same thing, bouncers had to talk to 4 or 5 before could find one willing to go to romsey!

cantthinkofone says...
10:09pm Thu 9 Feb 12

I've been scared for my life in a Southampton cab on more than one occasion. I'm also pretty sick of taxi drivers assuming that because I'm white I want to hear their third reich views on immigration and racial slurs.

It would be nice if the council started sorting the existing ones out before issuing new plates.

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