Charging taxi drivers £1 to collect cruise ship passengers goes out to consultation

Hampshire Chronicle: Consultation over Port's £1 taxi charge Consultation over Port's £1 taxi charge

PLANS to introduce a £1 charge for taxi drivers to pick up passengers from the city’s cruise ships will go to public consultation.

Southampton City Council’s Cabinet last night debated the new levy, which was agreed by Associated British Ports (ABP), and considered an amendment to the table to hackney fares to allow cabbies to recoup the charge from passengers.

As reported by the Daily Echo yesterday, pictured left, the proposals were drawn up to fund new marshals for the city’s cruise terminals after a series of rows between cabbies at the ranks.

But the plans were met by criticism from members of the taxi trade, who warned it will be “unpopular” with passengers.

The proposals are set to be introduced on April 1 after ABP said the charge will go ahead regardless of the Cabinet’s decision to amend the table last night.

Ian Hall, chairman of South-ampton Hackney Association, said the charges will give “stability in the docks” and improve the “standard of vehicles”.

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12:57pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Watersider says...

Am I right in thinking Southampton City Council want to stop people from visiting Southampton?

We've just had evening parking charges introduced and now an additional tax on visitors to the port, I didn't realise the port was council land, so what right do they have?

Perhaps they should focus their efforts on making Southampton easier to get around then more people would enter the city and spend money. My suggestions for what they are worth include, removing bus lanes where the bus service is inadequate to justify the lane, remove parking restrictions from bus stops that are no longer on bus routes and possibly the biggest improvement could come from reducing the number of traffic lights, they are not all needed.
Am I right in thinking Southampton City Council want to stop people from visiting Southampton? We've just had evening parking charges introduced and now an additional tax on visitors to the port, I didn't realise the port was council land, so what right do they have? Perhaps they should focus their efforts on making Southampton easier to get around then more people would enter the city and spend money. My suggestions for what they are worth include, removing bus lanes where the bus service is inadequate to justify the lane, remove parking restrictions from bus stops that are no longer on bus routes and possibly the biggest improvement could come from reducing the number of traffic lights, they are not all needed. Watersider
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9:46pm Wed 19 Mar 14

in search of the truth says...

Watersider wrote:
Am I right in thinking Southampton City Council want to stop people from visiting Southampton?

We've just had evening parking charges introduced and now an additional tax on visitors to the port, I didn't realise the port was council land, so what right do they have?

Perhaps they should focus their efforts on making Southampton easier to get around then more people would enter the city and spend money. My suggestions for what they are worth include, removing bus lanes where the bus service is inadequate to justify the lane, remove parking restrictions from bus stops that are no longer on bus routes and possibly the biggest improvement could come from reducing the number of traffic lights, they are not all needed.
It's not the council that's introduced this levy on taxi's entering the port , it's ABP who say they need to have marshalls to deal with trouble between taxi's at the rank's.
Since the drivers cause the trouble they should pay for any required marshalls not the innocent cruise passengers.
In a short while ABP will probably raise this " TAX 2 and start charging cabs £2, £3 or even £4 per visit. It's just another way for ABP to make as much money as they can from people.
[quote][p][bold]Watersider[/bold] wrote: Am I right in thinking Southampton City Council want to stop people from visiting Southampton? We've just had evening parking charges introduced and now an additional tax on visitors to the port, I didn't realise the port was council land, so what right do they have? Perhaps they should focus their efforts on making Southampton easier to get around then more people would enter the city and spend money. My suggestions for what they are worth include, removing bus lanes where the bus service is inadequate to justify the lane, remove parking restrictions from bus stops that are no longer on bus routes and possibly the biggest improvement could come from reducing the number of traffic lights, they are not all needed.[/p][/quote]It's not the council that's introduced this levy on taxi's entering the port , it's ABP who say they need to have marshalls to deal with trouble between taxi's at the rank's. Since the drivers cause the trouble they should pay for any required marshalls not the innocent cruise passengers. In a short while ABP will probably raise this " TAX 2 and start charging cabs £2, £3 or even £4 per visit. It's just another way for ABP to make as much money as they can from people. in search of the truth
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9:48pm Wed 19 Mar 14

in search of the truth says...

Correction.........

In a short while ABP will probably raise this " TAX " and start charging cabs £2, £3 or even £4 per visit. It's just another way for ABP to make as much money as they can from people.
Correction......... In a short while ABP will probably raise this " TAX " and start charging cabs £2, £3 or even £4 per visit. It's just another way for ABP to make as much money as they can from people. in search of the truth
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7:31am Thu 20 Mar 14

loosehead says...

in search of the truth wrote:
Correction.........

In a short while ABP will probably raise this " TAX " and start charging cabs £2, £3 or even £4 per visit. It's just another way for ABP to make as much money as they can from people.
after the punch up in the pub by taxi drivers wouldn't ABP be better off hiring a fleet of minivans to take passengers to their destinations?
If a group want to go to London one mini bus can be used & passengers only charged for it's use not a Marshall on top of the fare?
If Taxi drivers can't control themselves & act in an orderly way that's their fault if they lost this trade isn't it?
But to charge passengers because you have a lot of hotheads needing to be controlled is wrong.
[quote][p][bold]in search of the truth[/bold] wrote: Correction......... In a short while ABP will probably raise this " TAX " and start charging cabs £2, £3 or even £4 per visit. It's just another way for ABP to make as much money as they can from people.[/p][/quote]after the punch up in the pub by taxi drivers wouldn't ABP be better off hiring a fleet of minivans to take passengers to their destinations? If a group want to go to London one mini bus can be used & passengers only charged for it's use not a Marshall on top of the fare? If Taxi drivers can't control themselves & act in an orderly way that's their fault if they lost this trade isn't it? But to charge passengers because you have a lot of hotheads needing to be controlled is wrong. loosehead
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10:31am Thu 20 Mar 14

NotoNwo says...

in search of the truth wrote:
Watersider wrote:
Am I right in thinking Southampton City Council want to stop people from visiting Southampton?

We've just had evening parking charges introduced and now an additional tax on visitors to the port, I didn't realise the port was council land, so what right do they have?

Perhaps they should focus their efforts on making Southampton easier to get around then more people would enter the city and spend money. My suggestions for what they are worth include, removing bus lanes where the bus service is inadequate to justify the lane, remove parking restrictions from bus stops that are no longer on bus routes and possibly the biggest improvement could come from reducing the number of traffic lights, they are not all needed.
It's not the council that's introduced this levy on taxi's entering the port , it's ABP who say they need to have marshalls to deal with trouble between taxi's at the rank's.
Since the drivers cause the trouble they should pay for any required marshalls not the innocent cruise passengers.
In a short while ABP will probably raise this " TAX 2 and start charging cabs £2, £3 or even £4 per visit. It's just another way for ABP to make as much money as they can from people.
Very good of the cabinet to object this charge being passed on to the passengers, many of the drivers whose taxis I have used have said though it's up to them to charge it to the passengers most say it should not be put on the table of fares as this could be open to abuse by the very same minority of drivers whose behavior prompted having marshals in the first place. One driver said it was a handful of drivers causing all the problems but the others were scared to put formal complaints in to ban these few drivers from the docks. Surely the drivers can put this pound cost through their expenses, the policing of drivers should not be footed by innocent customers.

The council should have thrown it out and not waste further time with consultation, let it be dealt with between the drivers and ABP. I use taxis 3/4 times a day within the city centre and get to hear much of what goes on, manysay the council has no influence in the docks and that one association keeps hindering their business by caving in to the council and ABP. One of threw above posts is correct today a pound then two then three glad I'm not represented in my job by Mr Hall.

I do feel sorry for some of the drivers and all the cruise passengers having to pay this charge. Some taxi drivers are riff raff and you can believe them fighting amongst themselves .
[quote][p][bold]in search of the truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Watersider[/bold] wrote: Am I right in thinking Southampton City Council want to stop people from visiting Southampton? We've just had evening parking charges introduced and now an additional tax on visitors to the port, I didn't realise the port was council land, so what right do they have? Perhaps they should focus their efforts on making Southampton easier to get around then more people would enter the city and spend money. My suggestions for what they are worth include, removing bus lanes where the bus service is inadequate to justify the lane, remove parking restrictions from bus stops that are no longer on bus routes and possibly the biggest improvement could come from reducing the number of traffic lights, they are not all needed.[/p][/quote]It's not the council that's introduced this levy on taxi's entering the port , it's ABP who say they need to have marshalls to deal with trouble between taxi's at the rank's. Since the drivers cause the trouble they should pay for any required marshalls not the innocent cruise passengers. In a short while ABP will probably raise this " TAX 2 and start charging cabs £2, £3 or even £4 per visit. It's just another way for ABP to make as much money as they can from people.[/p][/quote]Very good of the cabinet to object this charge being passed on to the passengers, many of the drivers whose taxis I have used have said though it's up to them to charge it to the passengers most say it should not be put on the table of fares as this could be open to abuse by the very same minority of drivers whose behavior prompted having marshals in the first place. One driver said it was a handful of drivers causing all the problems but the others were scared to put formal complaints in to ban these few drivers from the docks. Surely the drivers can put this pound cost through their expenses, the policing of drivers should not be footed by innocent customers. The council should have thrown it out and not waste further time with consultation, let it be dealt with between the drivers and ABP. I use taxis 3/4 times a day within the city centre and get to hear much of what goes on, manysay the council has no influence in the docks and that one association keeps hindering their business by caving in to the council and ABP. One of threw above posts is correct today a pound then two then three glad I'm not represented in my job by Mr Hall. I do feel sorry for some of the drivers and all the cruise passengers having to pay this charge. Some taxi drivers are riff raff and you can believe them fighting amongst themselves . NotoNwo
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11:27am Thu 20 Mar 14

loosehead says...

NotoNwo wrote:
in search of the truth wrote:
Watersider wrote:
Am I right in thinking Southampton City Council want to stop people from visiting Southampton?

We've just had evening parking charges introduced and now an additional tax on visitors to the port, I didn't realise the port was council land, so what right do they have?

Perhaps they should focus their efforts on making Southampton easier to get around then more people would enter the city and spend money. My suggestions for what they are worth include, removing bus lanes where the bus service is inadequate to justify the lane, remove parking restrictions from bus stops that are no longer on bus routes and possibly the biggest improvement could come from reducing the number of traffic lights, they are not all needed.
It's not the council that's introduced this levy on taxi's entering the port , it's ABP who say they need to have marshalls to deal with trouble between taxi's at the rank's.
Since the drivers cause the trouble they should pay for any required marshalls not the innocent cruise passengers.
In a short while ABP will probably raise this " TAX 2 and start charging cabs £2, £3 or even £4 per visit. It's just another way for ABP to make as much money as they can from people.
Very good of the cabinet to object this charge being passed on to the passengers, many of the drivers whose taxis I have used have said though it's up to them to charge it to the passengers most say it should not be put on the table of fares as this could be open to abuse by the very same minority of drivers whose behavior prompted having marshals in the first place. One driver said it was a handful of drivers causing all the problems but the others were scared to put formal complaints in to ban these few drivers from the docks. Surely the drivers can put this pound cost through their expenses, the policing of drivers should not be footed by innocent customers.

The council should have thrown it out and not waste further time with consultation, let it be dealt with between the drivers and ABP. I use taxis 3/4 times a day within the city centre and get to hear much of what goes on, manysay the council has no influence in the docks and that one association keeps hindering their business by caving in to the council and ABP. One of threw above posts is correct today a pound then two then three glad I'm not represented in my job by Mr Hall.

I do feel sorry for some of the drivers and all the cruise passengers having to pay this charge. Some taxi drivers are riff raff and you can believe them fighting amongst themselves .
When I was in the TA & had to go to Grantham most taxi drivers had estate cars or people movers,
They would ask where people wanted to go & once they had enough to fill the car/van they would go & it cost £1 a person so if only one person was stood there they lost money but 9-10 they kept the queues down & made a handsome profit so why oh why can't our taxi drivers have done the same?
[quote][p][bold]NotoNwo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]in search of the truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Watersider[/bold] wrote: Am I right in thinking Southampton City Council want to stop people from visiting Southampton? We've just had evening parking charges introduced and now an additional tax on visitors to the port, I didn't realise the port was council land, so what right do they have? Perhaps they should focus their efforts on making Southampton easier to get around then more people would enter the city and spend money. My suggestions for what they are worth include, removing bus lanes where the bus service is inadequate to justify the lane, remove parking restrictions from bus stops that are no longer on bus routes and possibly the biggest improvement could come from reducing the number of traffic lights, they are not all needed.[/p][/quote]It's not the council that's introduced this levy on taxi's entering the port , it's ABP who say they need to have marshalls to deal with trouble between taxi's at the rank's. Since the drivers cause the trouble they should pay for any required marshalls not the innocent cruise passengers. In a short while ABP will probably raise this " TAX 2 and start charging cabs £2, £3 or even £4 per visit. It's just another way for ABP to make as much money as they can from people.[/p][/quote]Very good of the cabinet to object this charge being passed on to the passengers, many of the drivers whose taxis I have used have said though it's up to them to charge it to the passengers most say it should not be put on the table of fares as this could be open to abuse by the very same minority of drivers whose behavior prompted having marshals in the first place. One driver said it was a handful of drivers causing all the problems but the others were scared to put formal complaints in to ban these few drivers from the docks. Surely the drivers can put this pound cost through their expenses, the policing of drivers should not be footed by innocent customers. The council should have thrown it out and not waste further time with consultation, let it be dealt with between the drivers and ABP. I use taxis 3/4 times a day within the city centre and get to hear much of what goes on, manysay the council has no influence in the docks and that one association keeps hindering their business by caving in to the council and ABP. One of threw above posts is correct today a pound then two then three glad I'm not represented in my job by Mr Hall. I do feel sorry for some of the drivers and all the cruise passengers having to pay this charge. Some taxi drivers are riff raff and you can believe them fighting amongst themselves .[/p][/quote]When I was in the TA & had to go to Grantham most taxi drivers had estate cars or people movers, They would ask where people wanted to go & once they had enough to fill the car/van they would go & it cost £1 a person so if only one person was stood there they lost money but 9-10 they kept the queues down & made a handsome profit so why oh why can't our taxi drivers have done the same? loosehead
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