Record breaking year for British cruises helped by Port of Southampton

Cruise ships in Southampton

Cruise ships in Southampton

First published in Hampshire Business Hampshire Chronicle: Photograph of the Author by , Shipping & Heritage Reporter

The port of Southampton was a major contributor to record breaking figures released by CruiseBritain showing more cruise ship passengers than ever before visited the UK last year.

More than 100 ships called into British ports and these vessels brought a record 866,000 passengers on day calls, a rise of 20 per cent over 2012.

Last year was also a record 12 months for passengers beginning their cruise at a UK port, with embarkations topping the one million passenger mark for the first time.

Southampton, the cruising industry's premier UK port, was particularly popular for day visits owing to the docks position close to many tourist attractions such as Stonehenge, the cathedral cities of Winchester and Salisbury, the New Forest as well London and Windsor.

Many ships were operating Round Britain cruises which offer an unusual and unique itinerary option allowing visitors to explore coasts, castles, cities and countryside in one easy visit.

The short sailing distances between Britain's shores and a number of complementary countries adds to the itinerary possibilities. “With a day call growth rate of this magnitude, we are on course to see more than one million passenger day calls into UK ports this year,” said Daren Taylor, incoming chairman of CruiseBritain. “This represents significant tourism revenue for each of the ports visited.”

CruiseBritain is the trade body which aims to raise the profile of Britain as a destination and has just introduced a new theme based around heritage coasts.

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3:58pm Tue 11 Mar 14

Bobs Your Uncle ? says...

shame about the gridlocked roads though.
shame about the gridlocked roads though. Bobs Your Uncle ?
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6:08pm Tue 11 Mar 14

loosehead says...

Bobs Your Uncle ? wrote:
shame about the gridlocked roads though.
caused by bl++dy minded people who can't even check on dock movements & even when warned still go towards dock gate 4 & then moan about traffic jams supposedly caused by the ships & not by them not seeking an alternative route
[quote][p][bold]Bobs Your Uncle ?[/bold] wrote: shame about the gridlocked roads though.[/p][/quote]caused by bl++dy minded people who can't even check on dock movements & even when warned still go towards dock gate 4 & then moan about traffic jams supposedly caused by the ships & not by them not seeking an alternative route loosehead
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6:25pm Tue 11 Mar 14

03alpe01 says...

yeah, such a shame that absolutely none of these tourist attractions are actually in Southampton though :(
yeah, such a shame that absolutely none of these tourist attractions are actually in Southampton though :( 03alpe01
  • Score: 9

9:01pm Tue 11 Mar 14

in search of the truth says...

03alpe01 wrote:
yeah, such a shame that absolutely none of these tourist attractions are actually in Southampton though :(
Shame About the lack of tourist attractions within Southampton's boundaries.

Liverpool was voted best port of call because it has so many tourist attractions within a short distance of the cruise terminal which is situated in one of the six area's which make up the " World Heritage Site " within the city,
[quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: yeah, such a shame that absolutely none of these tourist attractions are actually in Southampton though :([/p][/quote]Shame About the lack of tourist attractions within Southampton's boundaries. Liverpool was voted best port of call because it has so many tourist attractions within a short distance of the cruise terminal which is situated in one of the six area's which make up the " World Heritage Site " within the city, in search of the truth
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9:07pm Tue 11 Mar 14

in search of the truth says...

News just in , Liverpool have won their battle with Southampton over EU funding.

For details see ..............

http://www.liverpool
echo.co.uk/news/live
rpool-wins-battle-so
uthampton-over-68029
84
News just in , Liverpool have won their battle with Southampton over EU funding. For details see .............. http://www.liverpool echo.co.uk/news/live rpool-wins-battle-so uthampton-over-68029 84 in search of the truth
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9:10pm Tue 11 Mar 14

loosehead says...

in search of the truth wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
yeah, such a shame that absolutely none of these tourist attractions are actually in Southampton though :(
Shame About the lack of tourist attractions within Southampton's boundaries.

Liverpool was voted best port of call because it has so many tourist attractions within a short distance of the cruise terminal which is situated in one of the six area's which make up the " World Heritage Site " within the city,
THe French vaults,The Wool House, King Canutes Palace, Tudour house Museum, The Castle Walls of olde Southampton, Godshouse Tower ( first gun battery in Britain), Red Lion Pub where HenryVth held court , The point where the Pilgrim Fathers boarded the Mayflower & her fellow ship to go to the Americas, The Port that the Titanic set sail from, Henry Vth's Warship & the spot where King Canute tried stopping the waves plus a statue of the composer who wrote Abide With Me so exactly what historical buildings going back to Saxon times has Liverpool got?
[quote][p][bold]in search of the truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: yeah, such a shame that absolutely none of these tourist attractions are actually in Southampton though :([/p][/quote]Shame About the lack of tourist attractions within Southampton's boundaries. Liverpool was voted best port of call because it has so many tourist attractions within a short distance of the cruise terminal which is situated in one of the six area's which make up the " World Heritage Site " within the city,[/p][/quote]THe French vaults,The Wool House, King Canutes Palace, Tudour house Museum, The Castle Walls of olde Southampton, Godshouse Tower ( first gun battery in Britain), Red Lion Pub where HenryVth held court , The point where the Pilgrim Fathers boarded the Mayflower & her fellow ship to go to the Americas, The Port that the Titanic set sail from, Henry Vth's Warship & the spot where King Canute tried stopping the waves plus a statue of the composer who wrote Abide With Me so exactly what historical buildings going back to Saxon times has Liverpool got? loosehead
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9:11pm Tue 11 Mar 14

loosehead says...

in search of the truth wrote:
News just in , Liverpool have won their battle with Southampton over EU funding.

For details see ..............

http://www.liverpool

echo.co.uk/news/live

rpool-wins-battle-so

uthampton-over-68029

84
battle with Southampton? What about Dover,Portsmouth & all the other ports that opposed the way you got those grants?
[quote][p][bold]in search of the truth[/bold] wrote: News just in , Liverpool have won their battle with Southampton over EU funding. For details see .............. http://www.liverpool echo.co.uk/news/live rpool-wins-battle-so uthampton-over-68029 84[/p][/quote]battle with Southampton? What about Dover,Portsmouth & all the other ports that opposed the way you got those grants? loosehead
  • Score: -2

9:11pm Tue 11 Mar 14

loosehead says...

in search of the truth wrote:
News just in , Liverpool have won their battle with Southampton over EU funding.

For details see ..............

http://www.liverpool

echo.co.uk/news/live

rpool-wins-battle-so

uthampton-over-68029

84
battle with Southampton? What about Dover,Portsmouth & all the other ports that opposed the way you got those grants?
[quote][p][bold]in search of the truth[/bold] wrote: News just in , Liverpool have won their battle with Southampton over EU funding. For details see .............. http://www.liverpool echo.co.uk/news/live rpool-wins-battle-so uthampton-over-68029 84[/p][/quote]battle with Southampton? What about Dover,Portsmouth & all the other ports that opposed the way you got those grants? loosehead
  • Score: -2

9:32pm Tue 11 Mar 14

in search of the truth says...

loosehead wrote:
in search of the truth wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
yeah, such a shame that absolutely none of these tourist attractions are actually in Southampton though :(
Shame About the lack of tourist attractions within Southampton's boundaries.

Liverpool was voted best port of call because it has so many tourist attractions within a short distance of the cruise terminal which is situated in one of the six area's which make up the " World Heritage Site " within the city,
THe French vaults,The Wool House, King Canutes Palace, Tudour house Museum, The Castle Walls of olde Southampton, Godshouse Tower ( first gun battery in Britain), Red Lion Pub where HenryVth held court , The point where the Pilgrim Fathers boarded the Mayflower & her fellow ship to go to the Americas, The Port that the Titanic set sail from, Henry Vth's Warship & the spot where King Canute tried stopping the waves plus a statue of the composer who wrote Abide With Me so exactly what historical buildings going back to Saxon times has Liverpool got?
The attractions that you have are very nice , but your city seems to lack any idea about how to market what it has to visitors, it even has some strange notion that some of the items within the art gallery ( bequeathed to the city ) should be sold off. Shame on your council ( culture belonging to any city should NEVER be used like that ).
My personal advice to your council is that it should take lessons in how to market itself , other cities do it very well, unfortunately for the people of Southampton your city doesn't have a clue about how to do it !!!
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]in search of the truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: yeah, such a shame that absolutely none of these tourist attractions are actually in Southampton though :([/p][/quote]Shame About the lack of tourist attractions within Southampton's boundaries. Liverpool was voted best port of call because it has so many tourist attractions within a short distance of the cruise terminal which is situated in one of the six area's which make up the " World Heritage Site " within the city,[/p][/quote]THe French vaults,The Wool House, King Canutes Palace, Tudour house Museum, The Castle Walls of olde Southampton, Godshouse Tower ( first gun battery in Britain), Red Lion Pub where HenryVth held court , The point where the Pilgrim Fathers boarded the Mayflower & her fellow ship to go to the Americas, The Port that the Titanic set sail from, Henry Vth's Warship & the spot where King Canute tried stopping the waves plus a statue of the composer who wrote Abide With Me so exactly what historical buildings going back to Saxon times has Liverpool got?[/p][/quote]The attractions that you have are very nice , but your city seems to lack any idea about how to market what it has to visitors, it even has some strange notion that some of the items within the art gallery ( bequeathed to the city ) should be sold off. Shame on your council ( culture belonging to any city should NEVER be used like that ). My personal advice to your council is that it should take lessons in how to market itself , other cities do it very well, unfortunately for the people of Southampton your city doesn't have a clue about how to do it !!! in search of the truth
  • Score: 4

10:03pm Tue 11 Mar 14

Atlasman says...

The Atlantic Gateway, Liverpool 2 .Post Panamax container facility, work has now started on the river side of the Royal Seaforth Container Dock. When completed it will be able to take the biggest container ships afloat, The next stage in the Peel Holding project will be the new ROo-Ro terminals on the Birkenhead side of the river.The temporary Pierhead Cruise terminal now starting its new season with an increase over last years ship numbers, will be complemented when Peel build their deep water, river cruise terminal on the derelict North Docks. Already Cunard are arranging a Liverpool pick up to celebrate its historic links with Liverpool on its celebration crossing to New York next year. The Cunard Building at the Pierhead waterfront has been acquired by the City Council to become part of the cruise terminal facility as in the halcyon days of the Atlantic liner trade to the USA from Liverpool. The White Star Line headquarters, Albion House, now being refurbished to become a White Star Liners themed hotel already bookings from around the world are flooding in! There is still in situ a direct rail link into the seaport, so the infrastructure is ready to become alive again! Take a look at Liverpool tourist visitor numbers and the hotel rooms occupancy figures, two golf courses used for staging the British Open are within 30 mins via a direct rail link as with, Aintree Grand National course. A captive market for these World class events overseas visitors from across the Atlantic. Two major Shipping companies have recently relocated.their European offices into Liverpool..
The Atlantic Gateway, Liverpool 2 .Post Panamax container facility, work has now started on the river side of the Royal Seaforth Container Dock. When completed it will be able to take the biggest container ships afloat, The next stage in the Peel Holding project will be the new ROo-Ro terminals on the Birkenhead side of the river.The temporary Pierhead Cruise terminal now starting its new season with an increase over last years ship numbers, will be complemented when Peel build their deep water, river cruise terminal on the derelict North Docks. Already Cunard are arranging a Liverpool pick up to celebrate its historic links with Liverpool on its celebration crossing to New York next year. The Cunard Building at the Pierhead waterfront has been acquired by the City Council to become part of the cruise terminal facility as in the halcyon days of the Atlantic liner trade to the USA from Liverpool. The White Star Line headquarters, Albion House, now being refurbished to become a White Star Liners themed hotel already bookings from around the world are flooding in! There is still in situ a direct rail link into the seaport, so the infrastructure is ready to become alive again! Take a look at Liverpool tourist visitor numbers and the hotel rooms occupancy figures, two golf courses used for staging the British Open are within 30 mins via a direct rail link as with, Aintree Grand National course. A captive market for these World class events overseas visitors from across the Atlantic. Two major Shipping companies have recently relocated.their European offices into Liverpool.. Atlasman
  • Score: 3

10:13pm Tue 11 Mar 14

Torchie1 says...

Atlasman wrote:
The Atlantic Gateway, Liverpool 2 .Post Panamax container facility, work has now started on the river side of the Royal Seaforth Container Dock. When completed it will be able to take the biggest container ships afloat, The next stage in the Peel Holding project will be the new ROo-Ro terminals on the Birkenhead side of the river.The temporary Pierhead Cruise terminal now starting its new season with an increase over last years ship numbers, will be complemented when Peel build their deep water, river cruise terminal on the derelict North Docks. Already Cunard are arranging a Liverpool pick up to celebrate its historic links with Liverpool on its celebration crossing to New York next year. The Cunard Building at the Pierhead waterfront has been acquired by the City Council to become part of the cruise terminal facility as in the halcyon days of the Atlantic liner trade to the USA from Liverpool. The White Star Line headquarters, Albion House, now being refurbished to become a White Star Liners themed hotel already bookings from around the world are flooding in! There is still in situ a direct rail link into the seaport, so the infrastructure is ready to become alive again! Take a look at Liverpool tourist visitor numbers and the hotel rooms occupancy figures, two golf courses used for staging the British Open are within 30 mins via a direct rail link as with, Aintree Grand National course. A captive market for these World class events overseas visitors from across the Atlantic. Two major Shipping companies have recently relocated.their European offices into Liverpool..
If only the Liverpool dockers hadn't been so strike happy in the 1970s the docks wouldn't be home to TV companies or sites of historical curiosity.
[quote][p][bold]Atlasman[/bold] wrote: The Atlantic Gateway, Liverpool 2 .Post Panamax container facility, work has now started on the river side of the Royal Seaforth Container Dock. When completed it will be able to take the biggest container ships afloat, The next stage in the Peel Holding project will be the new ROo-Ro terminals on the Birkenhead side of the river.The temporary Pierhead Cruise terminal now starting its new season with an increase over last years ship numbers, will be complemented when Peel build their deep water, river cruise terminal on the derelict North Docks. Already Cunard are arranging a Liverpool pick up to celebrate its historic links with Liverpool on its celebration crossing to New York next year. The Cunard Building at the Pierhead waterfront has been acquired by the City Council to become part of the cruise terminal facility as in the halcyon days of the Atlantic liner trade to the USA from Liverpool. The White Star Line headquarters, Albion House, now being refurbished to become a White Star Liners themed hotel already bookings from around the world are flooding in! There is still in situ a direct rail link into the seaport, so the infrastructure is ready to become alive again! Take a look at Liverpool tourist visitor numbers and the hotel rooms occupancy figures, two golf courses used for staging the British Open are within 30 mins via a direct rail link as with, Aintree Grand National course. A captive market for these World class events overseas visitors from across the Atlantic. Two major Shipping companies have recently relocated.their European offices into Liverpool..[/p][/quote]If only the Liverpool dockers hadn't been so strike happy in the 1970s the docks wouldn't be home to TV companies or sites of historical curiosity. Torchie1
  • Score: -1

11:04pm Tue 11 Mar 14

WoolstonSean says...

Torchie1 wrote:
Atlasman wrote:
The Atlantic Gateway, Liverpool 2 .Post Panamax container facility, work has now started on the river side of the Royal Seaforth Container Dock. When completed it will be able to take the biggest container ships afloat, The next stage in the Peel Holding project will be the new ROo-Ro terminals on the Birkenhead side of the river.The temporary Pierhead Cruise terminal now starting its new season with an increase over last years ship numbers, will be complemented when Peel build their deep water, river cruise terminal on the derelict North Docks. Already Cunard are arranging a Liverpool pick up to celebrate its historic links with Liverpool on its celebration crossing to New York next year. The Cunard Building at the Pierhead waterfront has been acquired by the City Council to become part of the cruise terminal facility as in the halcyon days of the Atlantic liner trade to the USA from Liverpool. The White Star Line headquarters, Albion House, now being refurbished to become a White Star Liners themed hotel already bookings from around the world are flooding in! There is still in situ a direct rail link into the seaport, so the infrastructure is ready to become alive again! Take a look at Liverpool tourist visitor numbers and the hotel rooms occupancy figures, two golf courses used for staging the British Open are within 30 mins via a direct rail link as with, Aintree Grand National course. A captive market for these World class events overseas visitors from across the Atlantic. Two major Shipping companies have recently relocated.their European offices into Liverpool..
If only the Liverpool dockers hadn't been so strike happy in the 1970s the docks wouldn't be home to TV companies or sites of historical curiosity.
If your refering to Albert Dock that area was surplus to the needs of the Port of Liverpool in a similar way to how the Princess Alexandra Dock now known as Ocean Village was surplus to requirements for the Port of Southampton. There was no way these two areas of the respective ports could be adapted to further port usages hence they were sold off so your remark regarding port strikes has no reference what's so ever!
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Atlasman[/bold] wrote: The Atlantic Gateway, Liverpool 2 .Post Panamax container facility, work has now started on the river side of the Royal Seaforth Container Dock. When completed it will be able to take the biggest container ships afloat, The next stage in the Peel Holding project will be the new ROo-Ro terminals on the Birkenhead side of the river.The temporary Pierhead Cruise terminal now starting its new season with an increase over last years ship numbers, will be complemented when Peel build their deep water, river cruise terminal on the derelict North Docks. Already Cunard are arranging a Liverpool pick up to celebrate its historic links with Liverpool on its celebration crossing to New York next year. The Cunard Building at the Pierhead waterfront has been acquired by the City Council to become part of the cruise terminal facility as in the halcyon days of the Atlantic liner trade to the USA from Liverpool. The White Star Line headquarters, Albion House, now being refurbished to become a White Star Liners themed hotel already bookings from around the world are flooding in! There is still in situ a direct rail link into the seaport, so the infrastructure is ready to become alive again! Take a look at Liverpool tourist visitor numbers and the hotel rooms occupancy figures, two golf courses used for staging the British Open are within 30 mins via a direct rail link as with, Aintree Grand National course. A captive market for these World class events overseas visitors from across the Atlantic. Two major Shipping companies have recently relocated.their European offices into Liverpool..[/p][/quote]If only the Liverpool dockers hadn't been so strike happy in the 1970s the docks wouldn't be home to TV companies or sites of historical curiosity.[/p][/quote]If your refering to Albert Dock that area was surplus to the needs of the Port of Liverpool in a similar way to how the Princess Alexandra Dock now known as Ocean Village was surplus to requirements for the Port of Southampton. There was no way these two areas of the respective ports could be adapted to further port usages hence they were sold off so your remark regarding port strikes has no reference what's so ever! WoolstonSean
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11:17pm Tue 11 Mar 14

in search of the truth says...

In view of what I posted earlier at 9:07pm this posting has gone very quiet, the locals must be in shock !!!
In view of what I posted earlier at 9:07pm this posting has gone very quiet, the locals must be in shock !!! in search of the truth
  • Score: 2

11:24pm Tue 11 Mar 14

geordie says...

Atlasman wrote:
The Atlantic Gateway, Liverpool 2 .Post Panamax container facility, work has now started on the river side of the Royal Seaforth Container Dock. When completed it will be able to take the biggest container ships afloat, The next stage in the Peel Holding project will be the new ROo-Ro terminals on the Birkenhead side of the river.The temporary Pierhead Cruise terminal now starting its new season with an increase over last years ship numbers, will be complemented when Peel build their deep water, river cruise terminal on the derelict North Docks. Already Cunard are arranging a Liverpool pick up to celebrate its historic links with Liverpool on its celebration crossing to New York next year. The Cunard Building at the Pierhead waterfront has been acquired by the City Council to become part of the cruise terminal facility as in the halcyon days of the Atlantic liner trade to the USA from Liverpool. The White Star Line headquarters, Albion House, now being refurbished to become a White Star Liners themed hotel already bookings from around the world are flooding in! There is still in situ a direct rail link into the seaport, so the infrastructure is ready to become alive again! Take a look at Liverpool tourist visitor numbers and the hotel rooms occupancy figures, two golf courses used for staging the British Open are within 30 mins via a direct rail link as with, Aintree Grand National course. A captive market for these World class events overseas visitors from across the Atlantic. Two major Shipping companies have recently relocated.their European offices into Liverpool..
Its nice to see that 'Atlantic Gateway, Liverpool 2' is well underway. I'm sure you will have noticed that today our brand new berth 'SCT5' received its first ship, which was one of the 13000teu+ vessels that call several times a week already here. We are in the fortunate position of having the business already in place to occupy our new berth, unfortunately for Liverpool I think that you've left it a little late. There may be some transatlantic traffic you can pick up but it will be hard to persuade many carriers to bring any other deep-sea traffic that far north. Good luck though, and I'm happy to be proved wrong!
[quote][p][bold]Atlasman[/bold] wrote: The Atlantic Gateway, Liverpool 2 .Post Panamax container facility, work has now started on the river side of the Royal Seaforth Container Dock. When completed it will be able to take the biggest container ships afloat, The next stage in the Peel Holding project will be the new ROo-Ro terminals on the Birkenhead side of the river.The temporary Pierhead Cruise terminal now starting its new season with an increase over last years ship numbers, will be complemented when Peel build their deep water, river cruise terminal on the derelict North Docks. Already Cunard are arranging a Liverpool pick up to celebrate its historic links with Liverpool on its celebration crossing to New York next year. The Cunard Building at the Pierhead waterfront has been acquired by the City Council to become part of the cruise terminal facility as in the halcyon days of the Atlantic liner trade to the USA from Liverpool. The White Star Line headquarters, Albion House, now being refurbished to become a White Star Liners themed hotel already bookings from around the world are flooding in! There is still in situ a direct rail link into the seaport, so the infrastructure is ready to become alive again! Take a look at Liverpool tourist visitor numbers and the hotel rooms occupancy figures, two golf courses used for staging the British Open are within 30 mins via a direct rail link as with, Aintree Grand National course. A captive market for these World class events overseas visitors from across the Atlantic. Two major Shipping companies have recently relocated.their European offices into Liverpool..[/p][/quote]Its nice to see that 'Atlantic Gateway, Liverpool 2' is well underway. I'm sure you will have noticed that today our brand new berth 'SCT5' received its first ship, which was one of the 13000teu+ vessels that call several times a week already here. We are in the fortunate position of having the business already in place to occupy our new berth, unfortunately for Liverpool I think that you've left it a little late. There may be some transatlantic traffic you can pick up but it will be hard to persuade many carriers to bring any other deep-sea traffic that far north. Good luck though, and I'm happy to be proved wrong! geordie
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11:31pm Tue 11 Mar 14

geordie says...

in search of the truth wrote:
In view of what I posted earlier at 9:07pm this posting has gone very quiet, the locals must be in shock !!!
The problem for Liverpool is that its going to take more than a bit of free money and begrudgingly I agree, some decent tourist attractions to tempt cruise lines to the North West. Southampton is well established, has a good location and plenty of modern cruise terminals. I think Liverpool may get a tiny portion of the cruise turnaround pie, but that is it.
[quote][p][bold]in search of the truth[/bold] wrote: In view of what I posted earlier at 9:07pm this posting has gone very quiet, the locals must be in shock !!![/p][/quote]The problem for Liverpool is that its going to take more than a bit of free money and begrudgingly I agree, some decent tourist attractions to tempt cruise lines to the North West. Southampton is well established, has a good location and plenty of modern cruise terminals. I think Liverpool may get a tiny portion of the cruise turnaround pie, but that is it. geordie
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8:39am Wed 12 Mar 14

skeptik says...

Canute tried to hold back the tide - Nonsense he did no such thing, he showed his courtiers that he was not a god and could NOT hold back the tide - History is free online.
Canute tried to hold back the tide - Nonsense he did no such thing, he showed his courtiers that he was not a god and could NOT hold back the tide - History is free online. skeptik
  • Score: 1

10:51am Wed 12 Mar 14

Atlasman says...

geordie wrote:
in search of the truth wrote:
In view of what I posted earlier at 9:07pm this posting has gone very quiet, the locals must be in shock !!!
The problem for Liverpool is that its going to take more than a bit of free money and begrudgingly I agree, some decent tourist attractions to tempt cruise lines to the North West. Southampton is well established, has a good location and plenty of modern cruise terminals. I think Liverpool may get a tiny portion of the cruise turnaround pie, but that is it.
So why were the Southampton civic leaders , MPs, business community all running to the government and the EEU whinging about unfair competition! You have to accept all the UK population does not live in the south East and South West. To travel to Southampton from North of the Watford Gap is a total nightmare on the road network. The rail network charges are extortionate cost effectiveness is what counts to cruise passengers, to be ripped off and have to endure a day of travel with possibly a hotel stop over is not a pleasant start or finish to a supposedly relaxing cruise holiday..This is the reality
[quote][p][bold]geordie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]in search of the truth[/bold] wrote: In view of what I posted earlier at 9:07pm this posting has gone very quiet, the locals must be in shock !!![/p][/quote]The problem for Liverpool is that its going to take more than a bit of free money and begrudgingly I agree, some decent tourist attractions to tempt cruise lines to the North West. Southampton is well established, has a good location and plenty of modern cruise terminals. I think Liverpool may get a tiny portion of the cruise turnaround pie, but that is it.[/p][/quote]So why were the Southampton civic leaders , MPs, business community all running to the government and the EEU whinging about unfair competition! You have to accept all the UK population does not live in the south East and South West. To travel to Southampton from North of the Watford Gap is a total nightmare on the road network. The rail network charges are extortionate cost effectiveness is what counts to cruise passengers, to be ripped off and have to endure a day of travel with possibly a hotel stop over is not a pleasant start or finish to a supposedly relaxing cruise holiday..This is the reality Atlasman
  • Score: 2

12:05pm Wed 12 Mar 14

loosehead says...

skeptik wrote:
Canute tried to hold back the tide - Nonsense he did no such thing, he showed his courtiers that he was not a god and could NOT hold back the tide - History is free online.
he sat there an order the tide to stop & of course it didn't & most school kids are taught that
[quote][p][bold]skeptik[/bold] wrote: Canute tried to hold back the tide - Nonsense he did no such thing, he showed his courtiers that he was not a god and could NOT hold back the tide - History is free online.[/p][/quote]he sat there an order the tide to stop & of course it didn't & most school kids are taught that loosehead
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12:08pm Wed 12 Mar 14

loosehead says...

Atlasman wrote:
geordie wrote:
in search of the truth wrote:
In view of what I posted earlier at 9:07pm this posting has gone very quiet, the locals must be in shock !!!
The problem for Liverpool is that its going to take more than a bit of free money and begrudgingly I agree, some decent tourist attractions to tempt cruise lines to the North West. Southampton is well established, has a good location and plenty of modern cruise terminals. I think Liverpool may get a tiny portion of the cruise turnaround pie, but that is it.
So why were the Southampton civic leaders , MPs, business community all running to the government and the EEU whinging about unfair competition! You have to accept all the UK population does not live in the south East and South West. To travel to Southampton from North of the Watford Gap is a total nightmare on the road network. The rail network charges are extortionate cost effectiveness is what counts to cruise passengers, to be ripped off and have to endure a day of travel with possibly a hotel stop over is not a pleasant start or finish to a supposedly relaxing cruise holiday..This is the reality
get it right there was a group of ports who objected to the underhanded way Liverpool got grants by saying it was for one thing whilst knowing it was for something totally different.
You even got Portsmouth who at that time had no terminal of their own to back Liverpool's bid to keep the grant money only for Portsmouth to get it's own Terminal & join ther fight against Liverpool
[quote][p][bold]Atlasman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]geordie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]in search of the truth[/bold] wrote: In view of what I posted earlier at 9:07pm this posting has gone very quiet, the locals must be in shock !!![/p][/quote]The problem for Liverpool is that its going to take more than a bit of free money and begrudgingly I agree, some decent tourist attractions to tempt cruise lines to the North West. Southampton is well established, has a good location and plenty of modern cruise terminals. I think Liverpool may get a tiny portion of the cruise turnaround pie, but that is it.[/p][/quote]So why were the Southampton civic leaders , MPs, business community all running to the government and the EEU whinging about unfair competition! You have to accept all the UK population does not live in the south East and South West. To travel to Southampton from North of the Watford Gap is a total nightmare on the road network. The rail network charges are extortionate cost effectiveness is what counts to cruise passengers, to be ripped off and have to endure a day of travel with possibly a hotel stop over is not a pleasant start or finish to a supposedly relaxing cruise holiday..This is the reality[/p][/quote]get it right there was a group of ports who objected to the underhanded way Liverpool got grants by saying it was for one thing whilst knowing it was for something totally different. You even got Portsmouth who at that time had no terminal of their own to back Liverpool's bid to keep the grant money only for Portsmouth to get it's own Terminal & join ther fight against Liverpool loosehead
  • Score: -1

12:11pm Wed 12 Mar 14

loosehead says...

in search of the truth wrote:
loosehead wrote:
in search of the truth wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
yeah, such a shame that absolutely none of these tourist attractions are actually in Southampton though :(
Shame About the lack of tourist attractions within Southampton's boundaries.

Liverpool was voted best port of call because it has so many tourist attractions within a short distance of the cruise terminal which is situated in one of the six area's which make up the " World Heritage Site " within the city,
THe French vaults,The Wool House, King Canutes Palace, Tudour house Museum, The Castle Walls of olde Southampton, Godshouse Tower ( first gun battery in Britain), Red Lion Pub where HenryVth held court , The point where the Pilgrim Fathers boarded the Mayflower & her fellow ship to go to the Americas, The Port that the Titanic set sail from, Henry Vth's Warship & the spot where King Canute tried stopping the waves plus a statue of the composer who wrote Abide With Me so exactly what historical buildings going back to Saxon times has Liverpool got?
The attractions that you have are very nice , but your city seems to lack any idea about how to market what it has to visitors, it even has some strange notion that some of the items within the art gallery ( bequeathed to the city ) should be sold off. Shame on your council ( culture belonging to any city should NEVER be used like that ).
My personal advice to your council is that it should take lessons in how to market itself , other cities do it very well, unfortunately for the people of Southampton your city doesn't have a clue about how to do it !!!
Look I'm not Anti Liverpool in fact I'm looking forward to move there.
I agree this city needs to advertise more of it's historical past & I like the pamphlet given out by Hotels to tourists in Liverpool & When we had a Tory Council Jeremy Moulton was in talks with Cruise Companies & Hotels to do just that but that forward thinking council was voted out
[quote][p][bold]in search of the truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]in search of the truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: yeah, such a shame that absolutely none of these tourist attractions are actually in Southampton though :([/p][/quote]Shame About the lack of tourist attractions within Southampton's boundaries. Liverpool was voted best port of call because it has so many tourist attractions within a short distance of the cruise terminal which is situated in one of the six area's which make up the " World Heritage Site " within the city,[/p][/quote]THe French vaults,The Wool House, King Canutes Palace, Tudour house Museum, The Castle Walls of olde Southampton, Godshouse Tower ( first gun battery in Britain), Red Lion Pub where HenryVth held court , The point where the Pilgrim Fathers boarded the Mayflower & her fellow ship to go to the Americas, The Port that the Titanic set sail from, Henry Vth's Warship & the spot where King Canute tried stopping the waves plus a statue of the composer who wrote Abide With Me so exactly what historical buildings going back to Saxon times has Liverpool got?[/p][/quote]The attractions that you have are very nice , but your city seems to lack any idea about how to market what it has to visitors, it even has some strange notion that some of the items within the art gallery ( bequeathed to the city ) should be sold off. Shame on your council ( culture belonging to any city should NEVER be used like that ). My personal advice to your council is that it should take lessons in how to market itself , other cities do it very well, unfortunately for the people of Southampton your city doesn't have a clue about how to do it !!![/p][/quote]Look I'm not Anti Liverpool in fact I'm looking forward to move there. I agree this city needs to advertise more of it's historical past & I like the pamphlet given out by Hotels to tourists in Liverpool & When we had a Tory Council Jeremy Moulton was in talks with Cruise Companies & Hotels to do just that but that forward thinking council was voted out loosehead
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12:53pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Bobs Your Uncle ? says...

WoolstonSean wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
Atlasman wrote:
The Atlantic Gateway, Liverpool 2 .Post Panamax container facility, work has now started on the river side of the Royal Seaforth Container Dock. When completed it will be able to take the biggest container ships afloat, The next stage in the Peel Holding project will be the new ROo-Ro terminals on the Birkenhead side of the river.The temporary Pierhead Cruise terminal now starting its new season with an increase over last years ship numbers, will be complemented when Peel build their deep water, river cruise terminal on the derelict North Docks. Already Cunard are arranging a Liverpool pick up to celebrate its historic links with Liverpool on its celebration crossing to New York next year. The Cunard Building at the Pierhead waterfront has been acquired by the City Council to become part of the cruise terminal facility as in the halcyon days of the Atlantic liner trade to the USA from Liverpool. The White Star Line headquarters, Albion House, now being refurbished to become a White Star Liners themed hotel already bookings from around the world are flooding in! There is still in situ a direct rail link into the seaport, so the infrastructure is ready to become alive again! Take a look at Liverpool tourist visitor numbers and the hotel rooms occupancy figures, two golf courses used for staging the British Open are within 30 mins via a direct rail link as with, Aintree Grand National course. A captive market for these World class events overseas visitors from across the Atlantic. Two major Shipping companies have recently relocated.their European offices into Liverpool..
If only the Liverpool dockers hadn't been so strike happy in the 1970s the docks wouldn't be home to TV companies or sites of historical curiosity.
If your refering to Albert Dock that area was surplus to the needs of the Port of Liverpool in a similar way to how the Princess Alexandra Dock now known as Ocean Village was surplus to requirements for the Port of Southampton. There was no way these two areas of the respective ports could be adapted to further port usages hence they were sold off so your remark regarding port strikes has no reference what's so ever!
what a disgrace getting rid of the alexandra dock ,ocean village has never worked .
[quote][p][bold]WoolstonSean[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Atlasman[/bold] wrote: The Atlantic Gateway, Liverpool 2 .Post Panamax container facility, work has now started on the river side of the Royal Seaforth Container Dock. When completed it will be able to take the biggest container ships afloat, The next stage in the Peel Holding project will be the new ROo-Ro terminals on the Birkenhead side of the river.The temporary Pierhead Cruise terminal now starting its new season with an increase over last years ship numbers, will be complemented when Peel build their deep water, river cruise terminal on the derelict North Docks. Already Cunard are arranging a Liverpool pick up to celebrate its historic links with Liverpool on its celebration crossing to New York next year. The Cunard Building at the Pierhead waterfront has been acquired by the City Council to become part of the cruise terminal facility as in the halcyon days of the Atlantic liner trade to the USA from Liverpool. The White Star Line headquarters, Albion House, now being refurbished to become a White Star Liners themed hotel already bookings from around the world are flooding in! There is still in situ a direct rail link into the seaport, so the infrastructure is ready to become alive again! Take a look at Liverpool tourist visitor numbers and the hotel rooms occupancy figures, two golf courses used for staging the British Open are within 30 mins via a direct rail link as with, Aintree Grand National course. A captive market for these World class events overseas visitors from across the Atlantic. Two major Shipping companies have recently relocated.their European offices into Liverpool..[/p][/quote]If only the Liverpool dockers hadn't been so strike happy in the 1970s the docks wouldn't be home to TV companies or sites of historical curiosity.[/p][/quote]If your refering to Albert Dock that area was surplus to the needs of the Port of Liverpool in a similar way to how the Princess Alexandra Dock now known as Ocean Village was surplus to requirements for the Port of Southampton. There was no way these two areas of the respective ports could be adapted to further port usages hence they were sold off so your remark regarding port strikes has no reference what's so ever![/p][/quote]what a disgrace getting rid of the alexandra dock ,ocean village has never worked . Bobs Your Uncle ?
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6:18pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Torchie1 says...

WoolstonSean wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
Atlasman wrote:
The Atlantic Gateway, Liverpool 2 .Post Panamax container facility, work has now started on the river side of the Royal Seaforth Container Dock. When completed it will be able to take the biggest container ships afloat, The next stage in the Peel Holding project will be the new ROo-Ro terminals on the Birkenhead side of the river.The temporary Pierhead Cruise terminal now starting its new season with an increase over last years ship numbers, will be complemented when Peel build their deep water, river cruise terminal on the derelict North Docks. Already Cunard are arranging a Liverpool pick up to celebrate its historic links with Liverpool on its celebration crossing to New York next year. The Cunard Building at the Pierhead waterfront has been acquired by the City Council to become part of the cruise terminal facility as in the halcyon days of the Atlantic liner trade to the USA from Liverpool. The White Star Line headquarters, Albion House, now being refurbished to become a White Star Liners themed hotel already bookings from around the world are flooding in! There is still in situ a direct rail link into the seaport, so the infrastructure is ready to become alive again! Take a look at Liverpool tourist visitor numbers and the hotel rooms occupancy figures, two golf courses used for staging the British Open are within 30 mins via a direct rail link as with, Aintree Grand National course. A captive market for these World class events overseas visitors from across the Atlantic. Two major Shipping companies have recently relocated.their European offices into Liverpool..
If only the Liverpool dockers hadn't been so strike happy in the 1970s the docks wouldn't be home to TV companies or sites of historical curiosity.
If your refering to Albert Dock that area was surplus to the needs of the Port of Liverpool in a similar way to how the Princess Alexandra Dock now known as Ocean Village was surplus to requirements for the Port of Southampton. There was no way these two areas of the respective ports could be adapted to further port usages hence they were sold off so your remark regarding port strikes has no reference what's so ever!
We'll just put it down to bad luck that the shipping companies that used to call the UK 'home' have long ago moved to European ports. Like the car industry, shipbuilding, mining,steelworks, the decades of strikes in the UK docks at a time when containerisation was gaining ground as the way ahead for cargo handling effectively killed the employment opportunities for stevedores in every port in the land and that includes Liverpool.
[quote][p][bold]WoolstonSean[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Atlasman[/bold] wrote: The Atlantic Gateway, Liverpool 2 .Post Panamax container facility, work has now started on the river side of the Royal Seaforth Container Dock. When completed it will be able to take the biggest container ships afloat, The next stage in the Peel Holding project will be the new ROo-Ro terminals on the Birkenhead side of the river.The temporary Pierhead Cruise terminal now starting its new season with an increase over last years ship numbers, will be complemented when Peel build their deep water, river cruise terminal on the derelict North Docks. Already Cunard are arranging a Liverpool pick up to celebrate its historic links with Liverpool on its celebration crossing to New York next year. The Cunard Building at the Pierhead waterfront has been acquired by the City Council to become part of the cruise terminal facility as in the halcyon days of the Atlantic liner trade to the USA from Liverpool. The White Star Line headquarters, Albion House, now being refurbished to become a White Star Liners themed hotel already bookings from around the world are flooding in! There is still in situ a direct rail link into the seaport, so the infrastructure is ready to become alive again! Take a look at Liverpool tourist visitor numbers and the hotel rooms occupancy figures, two golf courses used for staging the British Open are within 30 mins via a direct rail link as with, Aintree Grand National course. A captive market for these World class events overseas visitors from across the Atlantic. Two major Shipping companies have recently relocated.their European offices into Liverpool..[/p][/quote]If only the Liverpool dockers hadn't been so strike happy in the 1970s the docks wouldn't be home to TV companies or sites of historical curiosity.[/p][/quote]If your refering to Albert Dock that area was surplus to the needs of the Port of Liverpool in a similar way to how the Princess Alexandra Dock now known as Ocean Village was surplus to requirements for the Port of Southampton. There was no way these two areas of the respective ports could be adapted to further port usages hence they were sold off so your remark regarding port strikes has no reference what's so ever![/p][/quote]We'll just put it down to bad luck that the shipping companies that used to call the UK 'home' have long ago moved to European ports. Like the car industry, shipbuilding, mining,steelworks, the decades of strikes in the UK docks at a time when containerisation was gaining ground as the way ahead for cargo handling effectively killed the employment opportunities for stevedores in every port in the land and that includes Liverpool. Torchie1
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