Rogue car dealer Richard Burbage threatens Daily Echo staff for investigation into his businesses

Richard Burbage

Richard Burbage

First published in Hampshire Business
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ONE of the rogue car dealers at the centre of a storm of complaints from angry customers claiming they have been ripped off has now made threats against Daily Echo staff.

We revealed on Saturday how car salesman Richard Burbage was being investigated by police amid allegations he threatened one customer who claims he is owed money from the 40-year-old.

But just hours before the newspaper went to print, Mr Burbage contacted the Daily Echo and unleashed an angry torrent of abuse – and warned us not to print any more stories about him.

Meanwhile his apparently ‘former’ business partner Stan Rudgley, who worked with him at a former business called Woolston Car Supermarket in Hazel Road, delivered a vile response via email – sending pictures of faeces and making nasty personal comments.

During a phone call on Friday evening Mr Burbage told our reporter: “You print anything in the paper I will sue you individually and as a paper. Whatever happens, if you print anything more ... I will personally make it a vendetta.

“I hope you can sleep well because when I am finished I will turn your life upside down. You are harassing my family.”

Mr Burbage was responding to our request for a comment surrounding allegations made by one customer that he had been threatened via telephone earlier that day.

As reported in Saturday’s paper, the customer had gone to a lingerie shop called Ophelia’s Boutique, based at Botley Mills, after we revealed how Mr Burbage and his former business partner Stan Rudgley were believed to be back in business – using an office within the same premises, as well as the same contact telephone number and under a new business name of Valley Cars. The shop is run by Mr Burbage’s wife Lorraine.

As he continued with the phone call, Mr Burbage then tried to suggest that he, his wife and family were instead being harassed, adding: “If you carry on I will make it my personal last breath.”

He then made claims – which the Daily Echo vehemently denies – that his wife has been followed by our reporters on at least three occasions and that he had three witnesses who could back him up.

Mr Burbage then continued his verbal attack, saying: “ You deserve everything that is coming. I am personally going to make sure you don’t have a job. I am going to take out a private investigator to follow you. I want to find out your movements. I am going to make sure you have one night in the cells.”

He then warned: “You want to play with me and you will lose ... I have done nothing wrong.”

Before we politely brought an end to the conversation, Mr Burbage told us that he still sees Mr Rudgley – despite previously claiming they had parted company – because he is paying money back to him.

He told us: “I am not denying I have anything to do with him.

What I do is totally different. See whatever you see. You say no more about this or I will sue you.

Whatever Stan Rudgley does is nothing to do with me.”

Trading Standards continue to investigate claims surrounding Woolston Car Supermarket and a second business called Fort Wallington Car Sales. They have described it as one of the biggest cases of its kind in decades and so far are dealing with cases of more than 60 customers.

Hampshire police have confirmed they are also investigating after being contacted multiple times and are awaiting the outcome of the Trading Standards enquiry.

How the Echo has covered the story so far

IT was back in January this year that the Daily Echo first started printing stories about Mr Burbage and Mr Rudgley, after Woolston Car Supermarket suddenly closed amid mounting complaints over vehicles sold there.

Dozens of customers contacted us claiming they had been left in the lurch after demanding refunds or repairs to their cars.

There were also horror stories about cars sold by the firm – where Mr Rudgley and Mr Burbage worked – including someone buying a previously written-off vehicle and a car fitted with unregistered plates, while others were found to be dangerous.

Some people – in many cases hardpressed families – handed their cars back for repairs and claim they were not returned to them before the company closed, despite having bought the cars.

The premises were found abandoned, with dozens of letters of complaint and other mail left strewn on the ground outside.

Daily Echo inquiries discovered that the Woolston dealership had actually moved 12 miles down the road to an industrial estate in Fareham, opening up as Fort Wallington Car Sales, with the same director, Stan Rudgley.

We confronted Mr Rudgley and he was filmed promising to make amends to people who bought faulty cars, as well as refunds – after issuing a string of bouncing cheques.

But just days later that dealership also shut up shop, leaving dozens of people in the lurch yet again.

Documents also connect the two men to another business ran from Hazel Road in Woolston, called Hampshire Vehicle Sales.

The pair are both thought to be behind the latest business venture Valley Cars, which is being run out of an office of a lingerie shop in Botley Mills, which is run by Mr Burbage’s wife Lorraine.

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10:53am Mon 10 Mar 14

hulla baloo says...

Seems like a 'nice man'.
Wonder if his wife still sticks up for him, or will turn when his ill gotten gains have run out.
Seems like a 'nice man'. Wonder if his wife still sticks up for him, or will turn when his ill gotten gains have run out. hulla baloo
  • Score: 35

10:54am Mon 10 Mar 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

Well done Daily Echo, a madman has named you as his enemy, probably getting too close to the truth for his liking.... Keep going, get to the truth.
Well done Daily Echo, a madman has named you as his enemy, probably getting too close to the truth for his liking.... Keep going, get to the truth. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: 104

11:20am Mon 10 Mar 14

S!monOn says...

If you buy a bra... you get a free car!
If you buy a bra... you get a free car! S!monOn
  • Score: 27

11:26am Mon 10 Mar 14

bigfella777 says...

Looks like they will have to find new careers now. Why can't car dealers just buy decent low mileage stock, sell people a nice reliable car and build up a reputable business? I will never understand this trade.
Looks like they will have to find new careers now. Why can't car dealers just buy decent low mileage stock, sell people a nice reliable car and build up a reputable business? I will never understand this trade. bigfella777
  • Score: 43

11:29am Mon 10 Mar 14

Jan28th1984 says...

He sounds a model citizen.........
He sounds a model citizen......... Jan28th1984
  • Score: 16

11:45am Mon 10 Mar 14

gilbertratchet says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Well done Daily Echo, a madman has named you as his enemy, probably getting too close to the truth for his liking.... Keep going, get to the truth.
The truth? We already know the truth! He's a low-level rip-off merchant. There's no grand conspiracy here, he isn't Keizer Soze or anything. Jebus.
[quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: Well done Daily Echo, a madman has named you as his enemy, probably getting too close to the truth for his liking.... Keep going, get to the truth.[/p][/quote]The truth? We already know the truth! He's a low-level rip-off merchant. There's no grand conspiracy here, he isn't Keizer Soze or anything. Jebus. gilbertratchet
  • Score: 16

11:49am Mon 10 Mar 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

gilbertratchet wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Well done Daily Echo, a madman has named you as his enemy, probably getting too close to the truth for his liking.... Keep going, get to the truth.
The truth? We already know the truth! He's a low-level rip-off merchant. There's no grand conspiracy here, he isn't Keizer Soze or anything. Jebus.
Probably more to it, like some dodgy dealings with some even shadier characters, who knows, could be wrong and he just hates hearing the truth.
[quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: Well done Daily Echo, a madman has named you as his enemy, probably getting too close to the truth for his liking.... Keep going, get to the truth.[/p][/quote]The truth? We already know the truth! He's a low-level rip-off merchant. There's no grand conspiracy here, he isn't Keizer Soze or anything. Jebus.[/p][/quote]Probably more to it, like some dodgy dealings with some even shadier characters, who knows, could be wrong and he just hates hearing the truth. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: 15

12:00pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Torchie1 says...

All it takes for characters like this to survive in business is a steady stream of gullible punters who can't accept that their budget won't stretch to buying and running a car.
All it takes for characters like this to survive in business is a steady stream of gullible punters who can't accept that their budget won't stretch to buying and running a car. Torchie1
  • Score: 8

12:23pm Mon 10 Mar 14

gilbertratchet says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
gilbertratchet wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Well done Daily Echo, a madman has named you as his enemy, probably getting too close to the truth for his liking.... Keep going, get to the truth.
The truth? We already know the truth! He's a low-level rip-off merchant. There's no grand conspiracy here, he isn't Keizer Soze or anything. Jebus.
Probably more to it, like some dodgy dealings with some even shadier characters, who knows, could be wrong and he just hates hearing the truth.
Perhaps he's a rapist and a child abuser, too, eh?

You're reading WAY too much into this. Too much TV, I suspect.
[quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: Well done Daily Echo, a madman has named you as his enemy, probably getting too close to the truth for his liking.... Keep going, get to the truth.[/p][/quote]The truth? We already know the truth! He's a low-level rip-off merchant. There's no grand conspiracy here, he isn't Keizer Soze or anything. Jebus.[/p][/quote]Probably more to it, like some dodgy dealings with some even shadier characters, who knows, could be wrong and he just hates hearing the truth.[/p][/quote]Perhaps he's a rapist and a child abuser, too, eh? You're reading WAY too much into this. Too much TV, I suspect. gilbertratchet
  • Score: -24

12:24pm Mon 10 Mar 14

gilbertratchet says...

Torchie1 wrote:
All it takes for characters like this to survive in business is a steady stream of gullible punters who can't accept that their budget won't stretch to buying and running a car.
Quite.
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: All it takes for characters like this to survive in business is a steady stream of gullible punters who can't accept that their budget won't stretch to buying and running a car.[/p][/quote]Quite. gilbertratchet
  • Score: 3

12:24pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Santa Retfordia says...

It's funny how businessmen of this 'ilk' all have an incredibly poor understanding of media law.
It's funny how businessmen of this 'ilk' all have an incredibly poor understanding of media law. Santa Retfordia
  • Score: 22

12:27pm Mon 10 Mar 14

camerajuan says...

I can't believe this waste of a human has the gall to state that HE has been wronged.

Idiot. I hope he goes to jail for a very long time when the authorities finally catch up with him.
I can't believe this waste of a human has the gall to state that HE has been wronged. Idiot. I hope he goes to jail for a very long time when the authorities finally catch up with him. camerajuan
  • Score: 34

12:45pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Big Mac says...

If he was a car I don't think he'd pass an MOT by the look of it.
The only thing he looks capable of is passing the 'buck'.
If he was a car I don't think he'd pass an MOT by the look of it. The only thing he looks capable of is passing the 'buck'. Big Mac
  • Score: 21

12:45pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Huey says...

A crook and a talentless fat jerk who.can only make money ripping people off.
Hahahaha what loser!
A crook and a talentless fat jerk who.can only make money ripping people off. Hahahaha what loser! Huey
  • Score: 34

12:47pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Mary80 says...

He'd change his nasty tune if one of his dodgy cars KILLED someone
He'd change his nasty tune if one of his dodgy cars KILLED someone Mary80
  • Score: 7

12:48pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Huey says...

Bald tool
Bald tool Huey
  • Score: 16

12:54pm Mon 10 Mar 14

gilbertratchet says...

Mary80 wrote:
He'd change his nasty tune if one of his dodgy cars KILLED someone
Doubtful.
[quote][p][bold]Mary80[/bold] wrote: He'd change his nasty tune if one of his dodgy cars KILLED someone[/p][/quote]Doubtful. gilbertratchet
  • Score: 21

12:55pm Mon 10 Mar 14

gilbertratchet says...

Santa Retfordia wrote:
It's funny how businessmen of this 'ilk' all have an incredibly poor understanding of media law.
Why is it funny? How much understanding of this mystical "media law" that you just made up does the lay person need to have?
[quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: It's funny how businessmen of this 'ilk' all have an incredibly poor understanding of media law.[/p][/quote]Why is it funny? How much understanding of this mystical "media law" that you just made up does the lay person need to have? gilbertratchet
  • Score: -27

12:56pm Mon 10 Mar 14

townieboy says...

Well donr the ECHO for not being intimidated
Well donr the ECHO for not being intimidated townieboy
  • Score: 38

1:05pm Mon 10 Mar 14

S Pance says...

bigfella777 wrote:
Looks like they will have to find new careers now. Why can't car dealers just buy decent low mileage stock, sell people a nice reliable car and build up a reputable business? I will never understand this trade.
Some car dealers do. However there is only a small profit in that.
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Looks like they will have to find new careers now. Why can't car dealers just buy decent low mileage stock, sell people a nice reliable car and build up a reputable business? I will never understand this trade.[/p][/quote]Some car dealers do. However there is only a small profit in that. S Pance
  • Score: 12

1:10pm Mon 10 Mar 14

charrlee says...

gilbertratchet wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
gilbertratchet wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Well done Daily Echo, a madman has named you as his enemy, probably getting too close to the truth for his liking.... Keep going, get to the truth.
The truth? We already know the truth! He's a low-level rip-off merchant. There's no grand conspiracy here, he isn't Keizer Soze or anything. Jebus.
Probably more to it, like some dodgy dealings with some even shadier characters, who knows, could be wrong and he just hates hearing the truth.
Perhaps he's a rapist and a child abuser, too, eh?

You're reading WAY too much into this. Too much TV, I suspect.
Gingercyclist takes a great deal of interest in what goes on in our city, and likes to contribute to discussions. He usually confines himself to his special interest, which, as most of the regular readers know, is cycling. OTT speculation is indulged in by many of the forum readers. I often totally disagree with what G-cyclist says, and challenge him over it, but respect his right to comment. You are criticising his over-zealous speculation then offering some of your own. Not sure that is the best way to make your point, as it smacks of sarcasm and condescention, tactics you would normally reserve for his rebuff to your observation.

The Echo, like any tabloid, has investigated this story with the intention of presenting an exciting, paper-selling read, rather than a fair, balanced view. When you know that they spend much of their time in discussion with their legal department, finding out how far they can push their luck, how can anyone here make a fair comment?
[quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: Well done Daily Echo, a madman has named you as his enemy, probably getting too close to the truth for his liking.... Keep going, get to the truth.[/p][/quote]The truth? We already know the truth! He's a low-level rip-off merchant. There's no grand conspiracy here, he isn't Keizer Soze or anything. Jebus.[/p][/quote]Probably more to it, like some dodgy dealings with some even shadier characters, who knows, could be wrong and he just hates hearing the truth.[/p][/quote]Perhaps he's a rapist and a child abuser, too, eh? You're reading WAY too much into this. Too much TV, I suspect.[/p][/quote]Gingercyclist takes a great deal of interest in what goes on in our city, and likes to contribute to discussions. He usually confines himself to his special interest, which, as most of the regular readers know, is cycling. OTT speculation is indulged in by many of the forum readers. I often totally disagree with what G-cyclist says, and challenge him over it, but respect his right to comment. You are criticising his over-zealous speculation then offering some of your own. Not sure that is the best way to make your point, as it smacks of sarcasm and condescention, tactics you would normally reserve for his rebuff to your observation. The Echo, like any tabloid, has investigated this story with the intention of presenting an exciting, paper-selling read, rather than a fair, balanced view. When you know that they spend much of their time in discussion with their legal department, finding out how far they can push their luck, how can anyone here make a fair comment? charrlee
  • Score: -12

1:14pm Mon 10 Mar 14

S Pance says...

The website http://www.opheliasb
outique.co.uk/ appears to be in a state of being taken down. Various banners and text that were there over the weekend are no longer there now.
The website http://www.opheliasb outique.co.uk/ appears to be in a state of being taken down. Various banners and text that were there over the weekend are no longer there now. S Pance
  • Score: 6

1:17pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Selena Melbourne-Crumpet says...

Hey Loverboy,
Roses are red, Violets are Blue
I am 12,000 miles away........... and so are you!

Call me!
Hey Loverboy, Roses are red, Violets are Blue I am 12,000 miles away........... and so are you! Call me! Selena Melbourne-Crumpet
  • Score: 7

1:21pm Mon 10 Mar 14

S Pance says...

Huey wrote:
Bald tool
'Bald tool'? What? Like a hairbrush without any bristles?

I heard that they are going to write a book; "Baldilocks and the three hairs"
[quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: Bald tool[/p][/quote]'Bald tool'? What? Like a hairbrush without any bristles? I heard that they are going to write a book; "Baldilocks and the three hairs" S Pance
  • Score: 4

1:36pm Mon 10 Mar 14

sasmike says...

the truth hurts, caught with his knickers down
the truth hurts, caught with his knickers down sasmike
  • Score: 5

1:42pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Santa Retfordia says...

gilbertratchet wrote:
Santa Retfordia wrote:
It's funny how businessmen of this 'ilk' all have an incredibly poor understanding of media law.
Why is it funny? How much understanding of this mystical "media law" that you just made up does the lay person need to have?
There's nothing 'mystical' about libel laws. Google them - they're pretty well documented.

Angry businessmen used to getting their way by bullying people like telling journalists that if they print anything detrimental to their business then they'll be sued for it. I've been on the receiving end of it myself from people who seem convinced that it's an offense to publish news that is financially harmful to a business. Obviously, it's a completely groundless threat because as long as what you're printing is true then they don't have a leg to stand on.

Nevertheless, fair play to the Echo for backing their reporter and standing up against this guy and his attempts to intimidate.
[quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: It's funny how businessmen of this 'ilk' all have an incredibly poor understanding of media law.[/p][/quote]Why is it funny? How much understanding of this mystical "media law" that you just made up does the lay person need to have?[/p][/quote]There's nothing 'mystical' about libel laws. Google them - they're pretty well documented. Angry businessmen used to getting their way by bullying people like telling journalists that if they print anything detrimental to their business then they'll be sued for it. I've been on the receiving end of it myself from people who seem convinced that it's an offense to publish news that is financially harmful to a business. Obviously, it's a completely groundless threat because as long as what you're printing is true then they don't have a leg to stand on. Nevertheless, fair play to the Echo for backing their reporter and standing up against this guy and his attempts to intimidate. Santa Retfordia
  • Score: 22

1:48pm Mon 10 Mar 14

gilbertratchet says...

charrlee wrote:
gilbertratchet wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
gilbertratchet wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Well done Daily Echo, a madman has named you as his enemy, probably getting too close to the truth for his liking.... Keep going, get to the truth.
The truth? We already know the truth! He's a low-level rip-off merchant. There's no grand conspiracy here, he isn't Keizer Soze or anything. Jebus.
Probably more to it, like some dodgy dealings with some even shadier characters, who knows, could be wrong and he just hates hearing the truth.
Perhaps he's a rapist and a child abuser, too, eh?

You're reading WAY too much into this. Too much TV, I suspect.
Gingercyclist takes a great deal of interest in what goes on in our city, and likes to contribute to discussions. He usually confines himself to his special interest, which, as most of the regular readers know, is cycling. OTT speculation is indulged in by many of the forum readers. I often totally disagree with what G-cyclist says, and challenge him over it, but respect his right to comment. You are criticising his over-zealous speculation then offering some of your own. Not sure that is the best way to make your point, as it smacks of sarcasm and condescention, tactics you would normally reserve for his rebuff to your observation.

The Echo, like any tabloid, has investigated this story with the intention of presenting an exciting, paper-selling read, rather than a fair, balanced view. When you know that they spend much of their time in discussion with their legal department, finding out how far they can push their luck, how can anyone here make a fair comment?
The endless wild speculation people make on this site is depressing. I'm gonna call it out when I see it, and I don't need your seal of approval to do so, thanks.
[quote][p][bold]charrlee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: Well done Daily Echo, a madman has named you as his enemy, probably getting too close to the truth for his liking.... Keep going, get to the truth.[/p][/quote]The truth? We already know the truth! He's a low-level rip-off merchant. There's no grand conspiracy here, he isn't Keizer Soze or anything. Jebus.[/p][/quote]Probably more to it, like some dodgy dealings with some even shadier characters, who knows, could be wrong and he just hates hearing the truth.[/p][/quote]Perhaps he's a rapist and a child abuser, too, eh? You're reading WAY too much into this. Too much TV, I suspect.[/p][/quote]Gingercyclist takes a great deal of interest in what goes on in our city, and likes to contribute to discussions. He usually confines himself to his special interest, which, as most of the regular readers know, is cycling. OTT speculation is indulged in by many of the forum readers. I often totally disagree with what G-cyclist says, and challenge him over it, but respect his right to comment. You are criticising his over-zealous speculation then offering some of your own. Not sure that is the best way to make your point, as it smacks of sarcasm and condescention, tactics you would normally reserve for his rebuff to your observation. The Echo, like any tabloid, has investigated this story with the intention of presenting an exciting, paper-selling read, rather than a fair, balanced view. When you know that they spend much of their time in discussion with their legal department, finding out how far they can push their luck, how can anyone here make a fair comment?[/p][/quote]The endless wild speculation people make on this site is depressing. I'm gonna call it out when I see it, and I don't need your seal of approval to do so, thanks. gilbertratchet
  • Score: -8

1:53pm Mon 10 Mar 14

gilbertratchet says...

Santa Retfordia wrote:
gilbertratchet wrote:
Santa Retfordia wrote:
It's funny how businessmen of this 'ilk' all have an incredibly poor understanding of media law.
Why is it funny? How much understanding of this mystical "media law" that you just made up does the lay person need to have?
There's nothing 'mystical' about libel laws. Google them - they're pretty well documented.

Angry businessmen used to getting their way by bullying people like telling journalists that if they print anything detrimental to their business then they'll be sued for it. I've been on the receiving end of it myself from people who seem convinced that it's an offense to publish news that is financially harmful to a business. Obviously, it's a completely groundless threat because as long as what you're printing is true then they don't have a leg to stand on.

Nevertheless, fair play to the Echo for backing their reporter and standing up against this guy and his attempts to intimidate.
Wait. Libel laws? You said "media law" before. This would be page 1 of "How to shift goal posts" then.
[quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: It's funny how businessmen of this 'ilk' all have an incredibly poor understanding of media law.[/p][/quote]Why is it funny? How much understanding of this mystical "media law" that you just made up does the lay person need to have?[/p][/quote]There's nothing 'mystical' about libel laws. Google them - they're pretty well documented. Angry businessmen used to getting their way by bullying people like telling journalists that if they print anything detrimental to their business then they'll be sued for it. I've been on the receiving end of it myself from people who seem convinced that it's an offense to publish news that is financially harmful to a business. Obviously, it's a completely groundless threat because as long as what you're printing is true then they don't have a leg to stand on. Nevertheless, fair play to the Echo for backing their reporter and standing up against this guy and his attempts to intimidate.[/p][/quote]Wait. Libel laws? You said "media law" before. This would be page 1 of "How to shift goal posts" then. gilbertratchet
  • Score: -18

1:56pm Mon 10 Mar 14

funchal says...

Scum bag!
Scum bag! funchal
  • Score: 10

2:00pm Mon 10 Mar 14

itsnotjustice says...

im wondering if the bbc or channel five are aware of this story..... it would make a good little halfour report on rouge traders or one of them dominic littlewood shows....
im wondering if the bbc or channel five are aware of this story..... it would make a good little halfour report on rouge traders or one of them dominic littlewood shows.... itsnotjustice
  • Score: 15

2:03pm Mon 10 Mar 14

gilbertratchet says...

itsnotjustice wrote:
im wondering if the bbc or channel five are aware of this story..... it would make a good little halfour report on rouge traders or one of them dominic littlewood shows....
Rouge trader? He's selling makeup to old ladies now as well?
[quote][p][bold]itsnotjustice[/bold] wrote: im wondering if the bbc or channel five are aware of this story..... it would make a good little halfour report on rouge traders or one of them dominic littlewood shows....[/p][/quote]Rouge trader? He's selling makeup to old ladies now as well? gilbertratchet
  • Score: 3

2:05pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Santa Retfordia says...

gilbertratchet wrote:
Santa Retfordia wrote:
gilbertratchet wrote:
Santa Retfordia wrote:
It's funny how businessmen of this 'ilk' all have an incredibly poor understanding of media law.
Why is it funny? How much understanding of this mystical "media law" that you just made up does the lay person need to have?
There's nothing 'mystical' about libel laws. Google them - they're pretty well documented.

Angry businessmen used to getting their way by bullying people like telling journalists that if they print anything detrimental to their business then they'll be sued for it. I've been on the receiving end of it myself from people who seem convinced that it's an offense to publish news that is financially harmful to a business. Obviously, it's a completely groundless threat because as long as what you're printing is true then they don't have a leg to stand on.

Nevertheless, fair play to the Echo for backing their reporter and standing up against this guy and his attempts to intimidate.
Wait. Libel laws? You said "media law" before. This would be page 1 of "How to shift goal posts" then.
Libel is an example of a media law and it's the one that's relevant here. There are others.

Trust me, media law is a thing.
[quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: It's funny how businessmen of this 'ilk' all have an incredibly poor understanding of media law.[/p][/quote]Why is it funny? How much understanding of this mystical "media law" that you just made up does the lay person need to have?[/p][/quote]There's nothing 'mystical' about libel laws. Google them - they're pretty well documented. Angry businessmen used to getting their way by bullying people like telling journalists that if they print anything detrimental to their business then they'll be sued for it. I've been on the receiving end of it myself from people who seem convinced that it's an offense to publish news that is financially harmful to a business. Obviously, it's a completely groundless threat because as long as what you're printing is true then they don't have a leg to stand on. Nevertheless, fair play to the Echo for backing their reporter and standing up against this guy and his attempts to intimidate.[/p][/quote]Wait. Libel laws? You said "media law" before. This would be page 1 of "How to shift goal posts" then.[/p][/quote]Libel is an example of a media law and it's the one that's relevant here. There are others. Trust me, media law is a thing. Santa Retfordia
  • Score: 13

2:18pm Mon 10 Mar 14

hantslass says...

greedy git all these evil people dont give a **** about innocent buyers, as long as they are ripping people off and living in luxury that is all they care about, he looks a bloody bully. ive experienced being ripped off buying a car and it is so upsetting . whilst the scum bags are laughing all the way to the bank, i dont know how they sleep at night..... a long prison sentence for these people is what they need
greedy git all these evil people dont give a **** about innocent buyers, as long as they are ripping people off and living in luxury that is all they care about, he looks a bloody bully. ive experienced being ripped off buying a car and it is so upsetting . whilst the scum bags are laughing all the way to the bank, i dont know how they sleep at night..... a long prison sentence for these people is what they need hantslass
  • Score: 11

2:27pm Mon 10 Mar 14

crazy Mum says...

I'm so glad that this horrible man has been exposed for exactly what he is...A nasty, jumped up, bully and liar! I think he's beginning to realise that he's a little fish in a big pond now. He's tried worming his way out by going in denial and hiding when it first came to light, then he tried to get out of it by lying, now he's taking the aggressive stance... clutching at straws now Mr B?
I'm so glad that this horrible man has been exposed for exactly what he is...A nasty, jumped up, bully and liar! I think he's beginning to realise that he's a little fish in a big pond now. He's tried worming his way out by going in denial and hiding when it first came to light, then he tried to get out of it by lying, now he's taking the aggressive stance... clutching at straws now Mr B? crazy Mum
  • Score: 12

2:27pm Mon 10 Mar 14

gilbertratchet says...

hantslass wrote:
greedy git all these evil people dont give a **** about innocent buyers, as long as they are ripping people off and living in luxury that is all they care about, he looks a bloody bully. ive experienced being ripped off buying a car and it is so upsetting . whilst the scum bags are laughing all the way to the bank, i dont know how they sleep at night..... a long prison sentence for these people is what they need
Unlike all those other ethical car dealers that really care about their customers.
[quote][p][bold]hantslass[/bold] wrote: greedy git all these evil people dont give a **** about innocent buyers, as long as they are ripping people off and living in luxury that is all they care about, he looks a bloody bully. ive experienced being ripped off buying a car and it is so upsetting . whilst the scum bags are laughing all the way to the bank, i dont know how they sleep at night..... a long prison sentence for these people is what they need[/p][/quote]Unlike all those other ethical car dealers that really care about their customers. gilbertratchet
  • Score: -15

2:34pm Mon 10 Mar 14

SotonNorth says...

Well, there's no smoke without fire, and once a rogue always a rogue. I don't think for one moment that Burbage has suddenly become an angel in the car sales industry.
Well, there's no smoke without fire, and once a rogue always a rogue. I don't think for one moment that Burbage has suddenly become an angel in the car sales industry. SotonNorth
  • Score: 8

2:44pm Mon 10 Mar 14

charrlee says...

gilbertratchet wrote:
charrlee wrote:
gilbertratchet wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
gilbertratchet wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Well done Daily Echo, a madman has named you as his enemy, probably getting too close to the truth for his liking.... Keep going, get to the truth.
The truth? We already know the truth! He's a low-level rip-off merchant. There's no grand conspiracy here, he isn't Keizer Soze or anything. Jebus.
Probably more to it, like some dodgy dealings with some even shadier characters, who knows, could be wrong and he just hates hearing the truth.
Perhaps he's a rapist and a child abuser, too, eh?

You're reading WAY too much into this. Too much TV, I suspect.
Gingercyclist takes a great deal of interest in what goes on in our city, and likes to contribute to discussions. He usually confines himself to his special interest, which, as most of the regular readers know, is cycling. OTT speculation is indulged in by many of the forum readers. I often totally disagree with what G-cyclist says, and challenge him over it, but respect his right to comment. You are criticising his over-zealous speculation then offering some of your own. Not sure that is the best way to make your point, as it smacks of sarcasm and condescention, tactics you would normally reserve for his rebuff to your observation.

The Echo, like any tabloid, has investigated this story with the intention of presenting an exciting, paper-selling read, rather than a fair, balanced view. When you know that they spend much of their time in discussion with their legal department, finding out how far they can push their luck, how can anyone here make a fair comment?
The endless wild speculation people make on this site is depressing. I'm gonna call it out when I see it, and I don't need your seal of approval to do so, thanks.
Look, Ratchet, people are not gathered here to witness your latest proclaimations. We are here to argue or agree. Discuss the topic, not the commenter.
[quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]charrlee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: Well done Daily Echo, a madman has named you as his enemy, probably getting too close to the truth for his liking.... Keep going, get to the truth.[/p][/quote]The truth? We already know the truth! He's a low-level rip-off merchant. There's no grand conspiracy here, he isn't Keizer Soze or anything. Jebus.[/p][/quote]Probably more to it, like some dodgy dealings with some even shadier characters, who knows, could be wrong and he just hates hearing the truth.[/p][/quote]Perhaps he's a rapist and a child abuser, too, eh? You're reading WAY too much into this. Too much TV, I suspect.[/p][/quote]Gingercyclist takes a great deal of interest in what goes on in our city, and likes to contribute to discussions. He usually confines himself to his special interest, which, as most of the regular readers know, is cycling. OTT speculation is indulged in by many of the forum readers. I often totally disagree with what G-cyclist says, and challenge him over it, but respect his right to comment. You are criticising his over-zealous speculation then offering some of your own. Not sure that is the best way to make your point, as it smacks of sarcasm and condescention, tactics you would normally reserve for his rebuff to your observation. The Echo, like any tabloid, has investigated this story with the intention of presenting an exciting, paper-selling read, rather than a fair, balanced view. When you know that they spend much of their time in discussion with their legal department, finding out how far they can push their luck, how can anyone here make a fair comment?[/p][/quote]The endless wild speculation people make on this site is depressing. I'm gonna call it out when I see it, and I don't need your seal of approval to do so, thanks.[/p][/quote]Look, Ratchet, people are not gathered here to witness your latest proclaimations. We are here to argue or agree. Discuss the topic, not the commenter. charrlee
  • Score: 12

2:52pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Santa Retfordia says...

egghead65 wrote:
mugs.lol
HI RICH!
[quote][p][bold]egghead65[/bold] wrote: mugs.lol[/p][/quote]HI RICH! Santa Retfordia
  • Score: 4

3:11pm Mon 10 Mar 14

gilbertratchet says...

charrlee wrote:
gilbertratchet wrote:
charrlee wrote:
gilbertratchet wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
gilbertratchet wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Well done Daily Echo, a madman has named you as his enemy, probably getting too close to the truth for his liking.... Keep going, get to the truth.
The truth? We already know the truth! He's a low-level rip-off merchant. There's no grand conspiracy here, he isn't Keizer Soze or anything. Jebus.
Probably more to it, like some dodgy dealings with some even shadier characters, who knows, could be wrong and he just hates hearing the truth.
Perhaps he's a rapist and a child abuser, too, eh?

You're reading WAY too much into this. Too much TV, I suspect.
Gingercyclist takes a great deal of interest in what goes on in our city, and likes to contribute to discussions. He usually confines himself to his special interest, which, as most of the regular readers know, is cycling. OTT speculation is indulged in by many of the forum readers. I often totally disagree with what G-cyclist says, and challenge him over it, but respect his right to comment. You are criticising his over-zealous speculation then offering some of your own. Not sure that is the best way to make your point, as it smacks of sarcasm and condescention, tactics you would normally reserve for his rebuff to your observation.

The Echo, like any tabloid, has investigated this story with the intention of presenting an exciting, paper-selling read, rather than a fair, balanced view. When you know that they spend much of their time in discussion with their legal department, finding out how far they can push their luck, how can anyone here make a fair comment?
The endless wild speculation people make on this site is depressing. I'm gonna call it out when I see it, and I don't need your seal of approval to do so, thanks.
Look, Ratchet, people are not gathered here to witness your latest proclaimations. We are here to argue or agree. Discuss the topic, not the commenter.
I see. So people are allowed to say whatever they like, under the guise of "discuss the topic", but any attempt whatsoever to explore that any further is not allowed? Well in that case, I see the car dealer in question has been sticking it in charrlee's backside for years now. Nobody is allowed to gainsay my wild speculation, so that's ok.

Good grief, this is pretty basic stuff. You're all for "free speech", right up until someone speaks out against you. Interesting.
[quote][p][bold]charrlee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]charrlee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: Well done Daily Echo, a madman has named you as his enemy, probably getting too close to the truth for his liking.... Keep going, get to the truth.[/p][/quote]The truth? We already know the truth! He's a low-level rip-off merchant. There's no grand conspiracy here, he isn't Keizer Soze or anything. Jebus.[/p][/quote]Probably more to it, like some dodgy dealings with some even shadier characters, who knows, could be wrong and he just hates hearing the truth.[/p][/quote]Perhaps he's a rapist and a child abuser, too, eh? You're reading WAY too much into this. Too much TV, I suspect.[/p][/quote]Gingercyclist takes a great deal of interest in what goes on in our city, and likes to contribute to discussions. He usually confines himself to his special interest, which, as most of the regular readers know, is cycling. OTT speculation is indulged in by many of the forum readers. I often totally disagree with what G-cyclist says, and challenge him over it, but respect his right to comment. You are criticising his over-zealous speculation then offering some of your own. Not sure that is the best way to make your point, as it smacks of sarcasm and condescention, tactics you would normally reserve for his rebuff to your observation. The Echo, like any tabloid, has investigated this story with the intention of presenting an exciting, paper-selling read, rather than a fair, balanced view. When you know that they spend much of their time in discussion with their legal department, finding out how far they can push their luck, how can anyone here make a fair comment?[/p][/quote]The endless wild speculation people make on this site is depressing. I'm gonna call it out when I see it, and I don't need your seal of approval to do so, thanks.[/p][/quote]Look, Ratchet, people are not gathered here to witness your latest proclaimations. We are here to argue or agree. Discuss the topic, not the commenter.[/p][/quote]I see. So people are allowed to say whatever they like, under the guise of "discuss the topic", but any attempt whatsoever to explore that any further is not allowed? Well in that case, I see the car dealer in question has been sticking it in charrlee's backside for years now. Nobody is allowed to gainsay my wild speculation, so that's ok. Good grief, this is pretty basic stuff. You're all for "free speech", right up until someone speaks out against you. Interesting. gilbertratchet
  • Score: 1

3:20pm Mon 10 Mar 14

foresthorse says...

gilbertratchet wrote:
charrlee wrote:
gilbertratchet wrote:
charrlee wrote:
gilbertratchet wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
gilbertratchet wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote: Well done Daily Echo, a madman has named you as his enemy, probably getting too close to the truth for his liking.... Keep going, get to the truth.
The truth? We already know the truth! He's a low-level rip-off merchant. There's no grand conspiracy here, he isn't Keizer Soze or anything. Jebus.
Probably more to it, like some dodgy dealings with some even shadier characters, who knows, could be wrong and he just hates hearing the truth.
Perhaps he's a rapist and a child abuser, too, eh? You're reading WAY too much into this. Too much TV, I suspect.
Gingercyclist takes a great deal of interest in what goes on in our city, and likes to contribute to discussions. He usually confines himself to his special interest, which, as most of the regular readers know, is cycling. OTT speculation is indulged in by many of the forum readers. I often totally disagree with what G-cyclist says, and challenge him over it, but respect his right to comment. You are criticising his over-zealous speculation then offering some of your own. Not sure that is the best way to make your point, as it smacks of sarcasm and condescention, tactics you would normally reserve for his rebuff to your observation. The Echo, like any tabloid, has investigated this story with the intention of presenting an exciting, paper-selling read, rather than a fair, balanced view. When you know that they spend much of their time in discussion with their legal department, finding out how far they can push their luck, how can anyone here make a fair comment?
The endless wild speculation people make on this site is depressing. I'm gonna call it out when I see it, and I don't need your seal of approval to do so, thanks.
Look, Ratchet, people are not gathered here to witness your latest proclaimations. We are here to argue or agree. Discuss the topic, not the commenter.
I see. So people are allowed to say whatever they like, under the guise of "discuss the topic", but any attempt whatsoever to explore that any further is not allowed? Well in that case, I see the car dealer in question has been sticking it in charrlee's backside for years now. Nobody is allowed to gainsay my wild speculation, so that's ok. Good grief, this is pretty basic stuff. You're all for "free speech", right up until someone speaks out against you. Interesting.
Jeez Gilbert, how many more pedantic replies. You really are the dullest of ars*s, aren't you?
[quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]charrlee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]charrlee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: Well done Daily Echo, a madman has named you as his enemy, probably getting too close to the truth for his liking.... Keep going, get to the truth.[/p][/quote]The truth? We already know the truth! He's a low-level rip-off merchant. There's no grand conspiracy here, he isn't Keizer Soze or anything. Jebus.[/p][/quote]Probably more to it, like some dodgy dealings with some even shadier characters, who knows, could be wrong and he just hates hearing the truth.[/p][/quote]Perhaps he's a rapist and a child abuser, too, eh? You're reading WAY too much into this. Too much TV, I suspect.[/p][/quote]Gingercyclist takes a great deal of interest in what goes on in our city, and likes to contribute to discussions. He usually confines himself to his special interest, which, as most of the regular readers know, is cycling. OTT speculation is indulged in by many of the forum readers. I often totally disagree with what G-cyclist says, and challenge him over it, but respect his right to comment. You are criticising his over-zealous speculation then offering some of your own. Not sure that is the best way to make your point, as it smacks of sarcasm and condescention, tactics you would normally reserve for his rebuff to your observation. The Echo, like any tabloid, has investigated this story with the intention of presenting an exciting, paper-selling read, rather than a fair, balanced view. When you know that they spend much of their time in discussion with their legal department, finding out how far they can push their luck, how can anyone here make a fair comment?[/p][/quote]The endless wild speculation people make on this site is depressing. I'm gonna call it out when I see it, and I don't need your seal of approval to do so, thanks.[/p][/quote]Look, Ratchet, people are not gathered here to witness your latest proclaimations. We are here to argue or agree. Discuss the topic, not the commenter.[/p][/quote]I see. So people are allowed to say whatever they like, under the guise of "discuss the topic", but any attempt whatsoever to explore that any further is not allowed? Well in that case, I see the car dealer in question has been sticking it in charrlee's backside for years now. Nobody is allowed to gainsay my wild speculation, so that's ok. Good grief, this is pretty basic stuff. You're all for "free speech", right up until someone speaks out against you. Interesting.[/p][/quote]Jeez Gilbert, how many more pedantic replies. You really are the dullest of ars*s, aren't you? foresthorse
  • Score: 10

3:23pm Mon 10 Mar 14

charrlee says...

gilbertratchet wrote:
charrlee wrote:
gilbertratchet wrote:
charrlee wrote:
gilbertratchet wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
gilbertratchet wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Well done Daily Echo, a madman has named you as his enemy, probably getting too close to the truth for his liking.... Keep going, get to the truth.
The truth? We already know the truth! He's a low-level rip-off merchant. There's no grand conspiracy here, he isn't Keizer Soze or anything. Jebus.
Probably more to it, like some dodgy dealings with some even shadier characters, who knows, could be wrong and he just hates hearing the truth.
Perhaps he's a rapist and a child abuser, too, eh?

You're reading WAY too much into this. Too much TV, I suspect.
Gingercyclist takes a great deal of interest in what goes on in our city, and likes to contribute to discussions. He usually confines himself to his special interest, which, as most of the regular readers know, is cycling. OTT speculation is indulged in by many of the forum readers. I often totally disagree with what G-cyclist says, and challenge him over it, but respect his right to comment. You are criticising his over-zealous speculation then offering some of your own. Not sure that is the best way to make your point, as it smacks of sarcasm and condescention, tactics you would normally reserve for his rebuff to your observation.

The Echo, like any tabloid, has investigated this story with the intention of presenting an exciting, paper-selling read, rather than a fair, balanced view. When you know that they spend much of their time in discussion with their legal department, finding out how far they can push their luck, how can anyone here make a fair comment?
The endless wild speculation people make on this site is depressing. I'm gonna call it out when I see it, and I don't need your seal of approval to do so, thanks.
Look, Ratchet, people are not gathered here to witness your latest proclaimations. We are here to argue or agree. Discuss the topic, not the commenter.
I see. So people are allowed to say whatever they like, under the guise of "discuss the topic", but any attempt whatsoever to explore that any further is not allowed? Well in that case, I see the car dealer in question has been sticking it in charrlee's backside for years now. Nobody is allowed to gainsay my wild speculation, so that's ok.

Good grief, this is pretty basic stuff. You're all for "free speech", right up until someone speaks out against you. Interesting.
What bullsh*t you talk! By discuss the topic, I MEAN explore it further. That's what you do when you discuss a topic - you explore it further.

Your thinking processes seem odd. I'm going to ignore you like most of the other commenters here do.
[quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]charrlee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]charrlee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: Well done Daily Echo, a madman has named you as his enemy, probably getting too close to the truth for his liking.... Keep going, get to the truth.[/p][/quote]The truth? We already know the truth! He's a low-level rip-off merchant. There's no grand conspiracy here, he isn't Keizer Soze or anything. Jebus.[/p][/quote]Probably more to it, like some dodgy dealings with some even shadier characters, who knows, could be wrong and he just hates hearing the truth.[/p][/quote]Perhaps he's a rapist and a child abuser, too, eh? You're reading WAY too much into this. Too much TV, I suspect.[/p][/quote]Gingercyclist takes a great deal of interest in what goes on in our city, and likes to contribute to discussions. He usually confines himself to his special interest, which, as most of the regular readers know, is cycling. OTT speculation is indulged in by many of the forum readers. I often totally disagree with what G-cyclist says, and challenge him over it, but respect his right to comment. You are criticising his over-zealous speculation then offering some of your own. Not sure that is the best way to make your point, as it smacks of sarcasm and condescention, tactics you would normally reserve for his rebuff to your observation. The Echo, like any tabloid, has investigated this story with the intention of presenting an exciting, paper-selling read, rather than a fair, balanced view. When you know that they spend much of their time in discussion with their legal department, finding out how far they can push their luck, how can anyone here make a fair comment?[/p][/quote]The endless wild speculation people make on this site is depressing. I'm gonna call it out when I see it, and I don't need your seal of approval to do so, thanks.[/p][/quote]Look, Ratchet, people are not gathered here to witness your latest proclaimations. We are here to argue or agree. Discuss the topic, not the commenter.[/p][/quote]I see. So people are allowed to say whatever they like, under the guise of "discuss the topic", but any attempt whatsoever to explore that any further is not allowed? Well in that case, I see the car dealer in question has been sticking it in charrlee's backside for years now. Nobody is allowed to gainsay my wild speculation, so that's ok. Good grief, this is pretty basic stuff. You're all for "free speech", right up until someone speaks out against you. Interesting.[/p][/quote]What bullsh*t you talk! By discuss the topic, I MEAN explore it further. That's what you do when you discuss a topic - you explore it further. Your thinking processes seem odd. I'm going to ignore you like most of the other commenters here do. charrlee
  • Score: 6

3:52pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Mary80 says...

gilbertratchet wrote:
Mary80 wrote:
He'd change his nasty tune if one of his dodgy cars KILLED someone
Doubtful.
Probably correct even if the car ploughed into a field full of babies he'd deny the car was bad
[quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mary80[/bold] wrote: He'd change his nasty tune if one of his dodgy cars KILLED someone[/p][/quote]Doubtful.[/p][/quote]Probably correct even if the car ploughed into a field full of babies he'd deny the car was bad Mary80
  • Score: -5

3:55pm Mon 10 Mar 14

rossi 46 says...

terry tibbs
terry tibbs rossi 46
  • Score: 4

4:29pm Mon 10 Mar 14

mickey01 says...

he could fill in for the mitchell bros
he could fill in for the mitchell bros mickey01
  • Score: 1

4:53pm Mon 10 Mar 14

camerajuan says...

gilbertratchet wrote:
charrlee wrote:
gilbertratchet wrote:
charrlee wrote:
gilbertratchet wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
gilbertratchet wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Well done Daily Echo, a madman has named you as his enemy, probably getting too close to the truth for his liking.... Keep going, get to the truth.
The truth? We already know the truth! He's a low-level rip-off merchant. There's no grand conspiracy here, he isn't Keizer Soze or anything. Jebus.
Probably more to it, like some dodgy dealings with some even shadier characters, who knows, could be wrong and he just hates hearing the truth.
Perhaps he's a rapist and a child abuser, too, eh?

You're reading WAY too much into this. Too much TV, I suspect.
Gingercyclist takes a great deal of interest in what goes on in our city, and likes to contribute to discussions. He usually confines himself to his special interest, which, as most of the regular readers know, is cycling. OTT speculation is indulged in by many of the forum readers. I often totally disagree with what G-cyclist says, and challenge him over it, but respect his right to comment. You are criticising his over-zealous speculation then offering some of your own. Not sure that is the best way to make your point, as it smacks of sarcasm and condescention, tactics you would normally reserve for his rebuff to your observation.

The Echo, like any tabloid, has investigated this story with the intention of presenting an exciting, paper-selling read, rather than a fair, balanced view. When you know that they spend much of their time in discussion with their legal department, finding out how far they can push their luck, how can anyone here make a fair comment?
The endless wild speculation people make on this site is depressing. I'm gonna call it out when I see it, and I don't need your seal of approval to do so, thanks.
Look, Ratchet, people are not gathered here to witness your latest proclaimations. We are here to argue or agree. Discuss the topic, not the commenter.
I see. So people are allowed to say whatever they like, under the guise of "discuss the topic", but any attempt whatsoever to explore that any further is not allowed? Well in that case, I see the car dealer in question has been sticking it in charrlee's backside for years now. Nobody is allowed to gainsay my wild speculation, so that's ok.

Good grief, this is pretty basic stuff. You're all for "free speech", right up until someone speaks out against you. Interesting.
Now who's overthinking things!
[quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]charrlee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]charrlee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: Well done Daily Echo, a madman has named you as his enemy, probably getting too close to the truth for his liking.... Keep going, get to the truth.[/p][/quote]The truth? We already know the truth! He's a low-level rip-off merchant. There's no grand conspiracy here, he isn't Keizer Soze or anything. Jebus.[/p][/quote]Probably more to it, like some dodgy dealings with some even shadier characters, who knows, could be wrong and he just hates hearing the truth.[/p][/quote]Perhaps he's a rapist and a child abuser, too, eh? You're reading WAY too much into this. Too much TV, I suspect.[/p][/quote]Gingercyclist takes a great deal of interest in what goes on in our city, and likes to contribute to discussions. He usually confines himself to his special interest, which, as most of the regular readers know, is cycling. OTT speculation is indulged in by many of the forum readers. I often totally disagree with what G-cyclist says, and challenge him over it, but respect his right to comment. You are criticising his over-zealous speculation then offering some of your own. Not sure that is the best way to make your point, as it smacks of sarcasm and condescention, tactics you would normally reserve for his rebuff to your observation. The Echo, like any tabloid, has investigated this story with the intention of presenting an exciting, paper-selling read, rather than a fair, balanced view. When you know that they spend much of their time in discussion with their legal department, finding out how far they can push their luck, how can anyone here make a fair comment?[/p][/quote]The endless wild speculation people make on this site is depressing. I'm gonna call it out when I see it, and I don't need your seal of approval to do so, thanks.[/p][/quote]Look, Ratchet, people are not gathered here to witness your latest proclaimations. We are here to argue or agree. Discuss the topic, not the commenter.[/p][/quote]I see. So people are allowed to say whatever they like, under the guise of "discuss the topic", but any attempt whatsoever to explore that any further is not allowed? Well in that case, I see the car dealer in question has been sticking it in charrlee's backside for years now. Nobody is allowed to gainsay my wild speculation, so that's ok. Good grief, this is pretty basic stuff. You're all for "free speech", right up until someone speaks out against you. Interesting.[/p][/quote]Now who's overthinking things! camerajuan
  • Score: 0

5:05pm Mon 10 Mar 14

shuv says...

I think he is feeling intimidated with the truth the echo is printing and by threatening people makes him feel better...it's all he knows... Nothing but a playground bully... It's not nice being on the receiving end is it!! But that's how you have made at least 60 customers feel...
If you think the echo is harassing you feel free to go to court as I for one and I'm sure many more would love to see you in court!!
Well done daily echo keep printing the truth as I for one can't think of a better way to out the bad ones that give decent car traders a bad name..
I think he is feeling intimidated with the truth the echo is printing and by threatening people makes him feel better...it's all he knows... Nothing but a playground bully... It's not nice being on the receiving end is it!! But that's how you have made at least 60 customers feel... If you think the echo is harassing you feel free to go to court as I for one and I'm sure many more would love to see you in court!! Well done daily echo keep printing the truth as I for one can't think of a better way to out the bad ones that give decent car traders a bad name.. shuv
  • Score: 7

5:18pm Mon 10 Mar 14

hantslass says...

shuv wrote:
I think he is feeling intimidated with the truth the echo is printing and by threatening people makes him feel better...it's all he knows... Nothing but a playground bully... It's not nice being on the receiving end is it!! But that's how you have made at least 60 customers feel...
If you think the echo is harassing you feel free to go to court as I for one and I'm sure many more would love to see you in court!!
Well done daily echo keep printing the truth as I for one can't think of a better way to out the bad ones that give decent car traders a bad name..
well said shuv..... they say 60 people but i bet there are a lot more who just accepted there losses and vowed not to be ripped off again
[quote][p][bold]shuv[/bold] wrote: I think he is feeling intimidated with the truth the echo is printing and by threatening people makes him feel better...it's all he knows... Nothing but a playground bully... It's not nice being on the receiving end is it!! But that's how you have made at least 60 customers feel... If you think the echo is harassing you feel free to go to court as I for one and I'm sure many more would love to see you in court!! Well done daily echo keep printing the truth as I for one can't think of a better way to out the bad ones that give decent car traders a bad name..[/p][/quote]well said shuv..... they say 60 people but i bet there are a lot more who just accepted there losses and vowed not to be ripped off again hantslass
  • Score: 6

6:15pm Mon 10 Mar 14

SouthamptonLegend says...

To be fair... he's got the whole 'big-fat-bald-ugly-b
ully look' down to a tee!!
To be fair... he's got the whole 'big-fat-bald-ugly-b ully look' down to a tee!! SouthamptonLegend
  • Score: 5

6:16pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Mugsey2 says...

He looks a right Arfur Daley, a little look into his VAT payments might get a better result with his companies goin belly up every 5 minutes
He looks a right Arfur Daley, a little look into his VAT payments might get a better result with his companies goin belly up every 5 minutes Mugsey2
  • Score: 6

6:37pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Charlie Bucket says...

Mugsey2 wrote:
He looks a right Arfur Daley, a little look into his VAT payments might get a better result with his companies goin belly up every 5 minutes
The VAT payments will be his companies' rather than his. Same problem.
[quote][p][bold]Mugsey2[/bold] wrote: He looks a right Arfur Daley, a little look into his VAT payments might get a better result with his companies goin belly up every 5 minutes[/p][/quote]The VAT payments will be his companies' rather than his. Same problem. Charlie Bucket
  • Score: 3

6:52pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Hiram Abiff says...

Does the little baby boy think he can frighten off everyone by his bad behaviour?

Oh dum dum!

He'd fair a lot worse if he ever crossed us!
Does the little baby boy think he can frighten off everyone by his bad behaviour? Oh dum dum! He'd fair a lot worse if he ever crossed us! Hiram Abiff
  • Score: -5

7:39pm Mon 10 Mar 14

wwozzer says...

bigfella777 wrote:
Looks like they will have to find new careers now. Why can't car dealers just buy decent low mileage stock, sell people a nice reliable car and build up a reputable business? I will never understand this trade.
Plenty of car dealers do buy decent low mileage stock. Unfortunately in these hard economic times a lot of people want more bang for their buck and end up buying high mileage **** from con men who give the rest of the trade a bad name.
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Looks like they will have to find new careers now. Why can't car dealers just buy decent low mileage stock, sell people a nice reliable car and build up a reputable business? I will never understand this trade.[/p][/quote]Plenty of car dealers do buy decent low mileage stock. Unfortunately in these hard economic times a lot of people want more bang for their buck and end up buying high mileage **** from con men who give the rest of the trade a bad name. wwozzer
  • Score: 1

8:00pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Jrpc10 says...

I have met these guys on several occasions over the years, luckily not through buying cars. They like to think of themselves as "faces", but are laughed at by most. I'm amazed, considering their stupidity that either of them have made any success in anything. The lights seem on but no one home with both!! Simple to say the least!!
I have met these guys on several occasions over the years, luckily not through buying cars. They like to think of themselves as "faces", but are laughed at by most. I'm amazed, considering their stupidity that either of them have made any success in anything. The lights seem on but no one home with both!! Simple to say the least!! Jrpc10
  • Score: 3

8:06pm Mon 10 Mar 14

S!monOn says...

Charlie Bucket wrote:
Mugsey2 wrote:
He looks a right Arfur Daley, a little look into his VAT payments might get a better result with his companies goin belly up every 5 minutes
The VAT payments will be his companies' rather than his. Same problem.
And companies are run by directors. If HMRC feel that a company is run so that they are deliberately committing a fraud against Her Majesty they have every right to sue the directors.
[quote][p][bold]Charlie Bucket[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mugsey2[/bold] wrote: He looks a right Arfur Daley, a little look into his VAT payments might get a better result with his companies goin belly up every 5 minutes[/p][/quote]The VAT payments will be his companies' rather than his. Same problem.[/p][/quote]And companies are run by directors. If HMRC feel that a company is run so that they are deliberately committing a fraud against Her Majesty they have every right to sue the directors. S!monOn
  • Score: 3

9:12pm Mon 10 Mar 14

CarFraudster says...

"Mr Burbage told us that he still sees Mr Rudgley – despite previously claiming they had parted company – because he is paying money back to him. "

Stan knows enough to get what he wants from you RBurbage. You were forced to risk selling cars ,that can be connected to the good old days in Woolston, from your own yard.

Infamy, infamy they have all got in for me. Ha bloody ha.
"Mr Burbage told us that he still sees Mr Rudgley – despite previously claiming they had parted company – because he is paying money back to him. " Stan knows enough to get what he wants from you RBurbage. You were forced to risk selling cars ,that can be connected to the good old days in Woolston, from your own yard. Infamy, infamy they have all got in for me. Ha bloody ha. CarFraudster
  • Score: 3

9:17pm Mon 10 Mar 14

CarFraudster says...

Charlie Bucket wrote:
Mugsey2 wrote:
He looks a right Arfur Daley, a little look into his VAT payments might get a better result with his companies goin belly up every 5 minutes
The VAT payments will be his companies' rather than his. Same problem.
Liability can be transferred to officers of company
Section 61(3) of the VAT Act 1994
[quote][p][bold]Charlie Bucket[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mugsey2[/bold] wrote: He looks a right Arfur Daley, a little look into his VAT payments might get a better result with his companies goin belly up every 5 minutes[/p][/quote]The VAT payments will be his companies' rather than his. Same problem.[/p][/quote]Liability can be transferred to officers of company Section 61(3) of the VAT Act 1994 CarFraudster
  • Score: 2

9:25pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Bobs Your Uncle ? says...

Mugsey2 wrote:
He looks a right Arfur Daley, a little look into his VAT payments might get a better result with his companies goin belly up every 5 minutes
little dodgy maybe ,but underneath hes alright .so hes got a few nelson riddles going.
[quote][p][bold]Mugsey2[/bold] wrote: He looks a right Arfur Daley, a little look into his VAT payments might get a better result with his companies goin belly up every 5 minutes[/p][/quote]little dodgy maybe ,but underneath hes alright .so hes got a few nelson riddles going. Bobs Your Uncle ?
  • Score: -5

9:49pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Huey says...

I hope he lives the rest of his life in poverty and gets the kind of diabetes fat people get
I hope he lives the rest of his life in poverty and gets the kind of diabetes fat people get Huey
  • Score: -17

9:54pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Reality-man says...

We buy any Bra.com
We buy any Bra.com Reality-man
  • Score: 6

9:56pm Mon 10 Mar 14

burbagehunter1 says...

CarFraudster wrote:
Charlie Bucket wrote:
Mugsey2 wrote:
He looks a right Arfur Daley, a little look into his VAT payments might get a better result with his companies goin belly up every 5 minutes
The VAT payments will be his companies' rather than his. Same problem.
Liability can be transferred to officers of company
Section 61(3) of the VAT Act 1994
And that's where the Fatboy walks away as his name is not on the company registration.
Rudgeley's is (and he either doesn't have a clue how much of the smelly stuff he's sinking into - or doesn't care)
Thankfully ignorance is not a defence in the eyes of the court.
Mind your fingers Stan old son when the steel door slams............
[quote][p][bold]CarFraudster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Charlie Bucket[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mugsey2[/bold] wrote: He looks a right Arfur Daley, a little look into his VAT payments might get a better result with his companies goin belly up every 5 minutes[/p][/quote]The VAT payments will be his companies' rather than his. Same problem.[/p][/quote]Liability can be transferred to officers of company Section 61(3) of the VAT Act 1994[/p][/quote]And that's where the Fatboy walks away as his name is not on the company registration. Rudgeley's is (and he either doesn't have a clue how much of the smelly stuff he's sinking into - or doesn't care) Thankfully ignorance is not a defence in the eyes of the court. Mind your fingers Stan old son when the steel door slams............ burbagehunter1
  • Score: 7

10:08pm Mon 10 Mar 14

burbagehunter1 says...

Selena Melbourne-Crumpet wrote:
Hey Loverboy,
Roses are red, Violets are Blue
I am 12,000 miles away........... and so are you!

Call me!
I think he's got other things on his mind at the moment love, but I like your style.........
[quote][p][bold]Selena Melbourne-Crumpet[/bold] wrote: Hey Loverboy, Roses are red, Violets are Blue I am 12,000 miles away........... and so are you! Call me![/p][/quote]I think he's got other things on his mind at the moment love, but I like your style......... burbagehunter1
  • Score: 2

10:16pm Mon 10 Mar 14

CarFraudster says...

burbagehunter1 wrote:
CarFraudster wrote:
Charlie Bucket wrote:
Mugsey2 wrote:
He looks a right Arfur Daley, a little look into his VAT payments might get a better result with his companies goin belly up every 5 minutes
The VAT payments will be his companies' rather than his. Same problem.
Liability can be transferred to officers of company
Section 61(3) of the VAT Act 1994
And that's where the Fatboy walks away as his name is not on the company registration.
Rudgeley's is (and he either doesn't have a clue how much of the smelly stuff he's sinking into - or doesn't care)
Thankfully ignorance is not a defence in the eyes of the court.
Mind your fingers Stan old son when the steel door slams............
Directors and those acting as if they were directors. Stan has that evidence to prove that RB was "directing" the show.

The burglaries and problems could well be all part of the story of a car dealership collapsed through bad luck.

MrsB rant about roofs falling down tie in with the story they hoped to stick with.

My guess is the split at FWCS was MrB gets the £5k plus cars sold for a song and StandaMan gets the rest of the cars . He believed he would just sweat out his hard luck story at WCSLtd and be set up as a car dealer.

Now they are both facing the can and Stan is not going down without MrB.

Of course the Ozzies might want MrB before then.

For sure the show ends when two fat lads sing.
[quote][p][bold]burbagehunter1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CarFraudster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Charlie Bucket[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mugsey2[/bold] wrote: He looks a right Arfur Daley, a little look into his VAT payments might get a better result with his companies goin belly up every 5 minutes[/p][/quote]The VAT payments will be his companies' rather than his. Same problem.[/p][/quote]Liability can be transferred to officers of company Section 61(3) of the VAT Act 1994[/p][/quote]And that's where the Fatboy walks away as his name is not on the company registration. Rudgeley's is (and he either doesn't have a clue how much of the smelly stuff he's sinking into - or doesn't care) Thankfully ignorance is not a defence in the eyes of the court. Mind your fingers Stan old son when the steel door slams............[/p][/quote]Directors and those acting as if they were directors. Stan has that evidence to prove that RB was "directing" the show. The burglaries and problems could well be all part of the story of a car dealership collapsed through bad luck. MrsB rant about roofs falling down tie in with the story they hoped to stick with. My guess is the split at FWCS was MrB gets the £5k plus cars sold for a song and StandaMan gets the rest of the cars . He believed he would just sweat out his hard luck story at WCSLtd and be set up as a car dealer. Now they are both facing the can and Stan is not going down without MrB. Of course the Ozzies might want MrB before then. For sure the show ends when two fat lads sing. CarFraudster
  • Score: 3

10:28pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Mary80 says...

Hiram Abiff wrote:
Does the little baby boy think he can frighten off everyone by his bad behaviour?

Oh dum dum!

He'd fair a lot worse if he ever crossed us!
even my hamster is more intimidating
[quote][p][bold]Hiram Abiff[/bold] wrote: Does the little baby boy think he can frighten off everyone by his bad behaviour? Oh dum dum! He'd fair a lot worse if he ever crossed us![/p][/quote]even my hamster is more intimidating Mary80
  • Score: 4

10:57pm Mon 10 Mar 14

honest jack says...

shuv wrote:
I think he is feeling intimidated with the truth the echo is printing and by threatening people makes him feel better...it's all he knows... Nothing but a playground bully... It's not nice being on the receiving end is it!! But that's how you have made at least 60 customers feel...
If you think the echo is harassing you feel free to go to court as I for one and I'm sure many more would love to see you in court!!
Well done daily echo keep printing the truth as I for one can't think of a better way to out the bad ones that give decent car traders a bad name..

totally agree shuv - there are a lot of hardworking car traders selling honest cars local to wherever these rats decide to make a nest - its about time the police and the tax man move in and expose them including the shop that's only a smokescreen to move money around
shuv wrote: I think he is feeling intimidated with the truth the echo is printing and by threatening people makes him feel better...it's all he knows... Nothing but a playground bully... It's not nice being on the receiving end is it!! But that's how you have made at least 60 customers feel... If you think the echo is harassing you feel free to go to court as I for one and I'm sure many more would love to see you in court!! Well done daily echo keep printing the truth as I for one can't think of a better way to out the bad ones that give decent car traders a bad name.. totally agree shuv - there are a lot of hardworking car traders selling honest cars local to wherever these rats decide to make a nest - its about time the police and the tax man move in and expose them including the shop that's only a smokescreen to move money around honest jack
  • Score: 5

11:30pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Scum buster says...

hulla baloo wrote:
Seems like a 'nice man'.
Wonder if his wife still sticks up for him, or will turn when his ill gotten gains have run out.
What a horrible looking man, "40".... stone maybe, years surely not! Hate to think what his wife looks like and feel physically sick at the thought of her in lingerie. Hope he can lose some weight during his time in Prison.
[quote][p][bold]hulla baloo[/bold] wrote: Seems like a 'nice man'. Wonder if his wife still sticks up for him, or will turn when his ill gotten gains have run out.[/p][/quote]What a horrible looking man, "40".... stone maybe, years surely not! Hate to think what his wife looks like and feel physically sick at the thought of her in lingerie. Hope he can lose some weight during his time in Prison. Scum buster
  • Score: 4

3:30am Tue 11 Mar 14

Old Boscombe Lad says...

Mr. Burbage if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen.
Mr. Burbage if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen. Old Boscombe Lad
  • Score: 5

9:21am Tue 11 Mar 14

CarFraudster says...

This has cured my Eastenders habit. We even get a weekend episodes on Hedgendenders!
This has cured my Eastenders habit. We even get a weekend episodes on Hedgendenders! CarFraudster
  • Score: 4

12:45pm Tue 11 Mar 14

crabbit says...

Burbage has always been a useless shower of sh!te, from school days to present day. Leopards and spots ....

Named and shamed, excellent!
Burbage has always been a useless shower of sh!te, from school days to present day. Leopards and spots .... Named and shamed, excellent! crabbit
  • Score: 8

3:10pm Tue 11 Mar 14

Bob Barnes says...

Good job I never bought a car from this cu*t, if I had & had problems he would have been dealt with in a manner that would have left him in a wheel chair for the rest of his life, I previously have done this myself or paid others to do it, he is Scum, if you want me to take care of him have a whip round for my return flight from Thailand, come on you Guys there are ways to Sort him it's easy all I see are rubbish comments
Good job I never bought a car from this cu*t, if I had & had problems he would have been dealt with in a manner that would have left him in a wheel chair for the rest of his life, I previously have done this myself or paid others to do it, he is Scum, if you want me to take care of him have a whip round for my return flight from Thailand, come on you Guys there are ways to Sort him it's easy all I see are rubbish comments Bob Barnes
  • Score: -6

7:36pm Tue 11 Mar 14

shareaboutdodgycarsales.blogspot.com says...

Another good story Daily Echo. The truth hurts and he/they have bitten. Let's just hope Trading Standards and the Police do the right thing. I wonder if they are still trading under Service 4 Life Ltd from the PO Box in Manchester. shareaboutdodgycarsa
les.blogsot.com
Another good story Daily Echo. The truth hurts and he/they have bitten. Let's just hope Trading Standards and the Police do the right thing. I wonder if they are still trading under Service 4 Life Ltd from the PO Box in Manchester. shareaboutdodgycarsa les.blogsot.com shareaboutdodgycarsales.blogspot.com
  • Score: 1

7:52pm Tue 11 Mar 14

CarFraudster says...

shareaboutdodgycarsa
les.blogspot.com
wrote:
Another good story Daily Echo. The truth hurts and he/they have bitten. Let's just hope Trading Standards and the Police do the right thing. I wonder if they are still trading under Service 4 Life Ltd from the PO Box in Manchester. shareaboutdodgycarsa

les.blogsot.com
Lee Hassell connection as being the name used to register the website with Autotrader. Nothing showing up in regards trading name being linked to a Limited Company. There is a MGM AutoHaus Ltd using the same postcode and location I believe they are honest traders and not connected to the Dipstick Duo.
[quote][p][bold]shareaboutdodgycarsa les.blogspot.com[/bold] wrote: Another good story Daily Echo. The truth hurts and he/they have bitten. Let's just hope Trading Standards and the Police do the right thing. I wonder if they are still trading under Service 4 Life Ltd from the PO Box in Manchester. shareaboutdodgycarsa les.blogsot.com[/p][/quote]Lee Hassell connection as being the name used to register the website with Autotrader. Nothing showing up in regards trading name being linked to a Limited Company. There is a MGM AutoHaus Ltd using the same postcode and location I believe they are honest traders and not connected to the Dipstick Duo. CarFraudster
  • Score: 1

8:14pm Tue 11 Mar 14

honest jack says...

shareaboutdodgycarsa

les.blogspot.com wrote:
Another good story Daily Echo. The truth hurts and he/they have bitten. Let's just hope Trading Standards and the Police do the right thing. I wonder if they are still trading under Service 4 Life Ltd from the PO Box in Manchester. shareaboutdodgycarsa


les.blogsot.com
Lee Hassell connection as being the name used to register the website with Autotrader. Nothing showing up in regards trading name being linked to a Limited Company. There is a MGM AutoHaus Ltd using the same postcode and location I believe they are honest traders and not connected to the Dipstick Duo

I can confirm that MGM Autohaus Ltd is not connected in any way to these low lifes..This car trader has built up a solid business and is 100% genuine he trades in low mileage quality cars and prides themselves on excellent customer service I should know I have brought two cars from them and would highly recommend this company.....which is more than can be said about burbage his sidekick and delusional wife they should hold thier heads in shame
shareaboutdodgycarsa les.blogspot.com wrote: Another good story Daily Echo. The truth hurts and he/they have bitten. Let's just hope Trading Standards and the Police do the right thing. I wonder if they are still trading under Service 4 Life Ltd from the PO Box in Manchester. shareaboutdodgycarsa les.blogsot.com Lee Hassell connection as being the name used to register the website with Autotrader. Nothing showing up in regards trading name being linked to a Limited Company. There is a MGM AutoHaus Ltd using the same postcode and location I believe they are honest traders and not connected to the Dipstick Duo I can confirm that MGM Autohaus Ltd is not connected in any way to these low lifes..This car trader has built up a solid business and is 100% genuine he trades in low mileage quality cars and prides themselves on excellent customer service I should know I have brought two cars from them and would highly recommend this company.....which is more than can be said about burbage his sidekick and delusional wife they should hold thier heads in shame honest jack
  • Score: 2

8:55pm Tue 11 Mar 14

CarFraudster says...

honest jack wrote:
shareaboutdodgycarsa


les.blogspot.com wrote:
Another good story Daily Echo. The truth hurts and he/they have bitten. Let's just hope Trading Standards and the Police do the right thing. I wonder if they are still trading under Service 4 Life Ltd from the PO Box in Manchester. shareaboutdodgycarsa



les.blogsot.com
Lee Hassell connection as being the name used to register the website with Autotrader. Nothing showing up in regards trading name being linked to a Limited Company. There is a MGM AutoHaus Ltd using the same postcode and location I believe they are honest traders and not connected to the Dipstick Duo

I can confirm that MGM Autohaus Ltd is not connected in any way to these low lifes..This car trader has built up a solid business and is 100% genuine he trades in low mileage quality cars and prides themselves on excellent customer service I should know I have brought two cars from them and would highly recommend this company.....which is more than can be said about burbage his sidekick and delusional wife they should hold thier heads in shame
Thank you.

So unless you want holes in ya knickers, wallets and in the cars you buy goto MGM AutoHaus and wave ya money at DickStips as you WALK ON BY.
[quote][p][bold]honest jack[/bold] wrote: shareaboutdodgycarsa les.blogspot.com wrote: Another good story Daily Echo. The truth hurts and he/they have bitten. Let's just hope Trading Standards and the Police do the right thing. I wonder if they are still trading under Service 4 Life Ltd from the PO Box in Manchester. shareaboutdodgycarsa les.blogsot.com Lee Hassell connection as being the name used to register the website with Autotrader. Nothing showing up in regards trading name being linked to a Limited Company. There is a MGM AutoHaus Ltd using the same postcode and location I believe they are honest traders and not connected to the Dipstick Duo I can confirm that MGM Autohaus Ltd is not connected in any way to these low lifes..This car trader has built up a solid business and is 100% genuine he trades in low mileage quality cars and prides themselves on excellent customer service I should know I have brought two cars from them and would highly recommend this company.....which is more than can be said about burbage his sidekick and delusional wife they should hold thier heads in shame[/p][/quote]Thank you. So unless you want holes in ya knickers, wallets and in the cars you buy goto MGM AutoHaus and wave ya money at DickStips as you WALK ON BY. CarFraudster
  • Score: 1

11:59pm Tue 11 Mar 14

MGM Autohaus Ltd says...

Hello Guys,

I am Managing Director and sole owner of MGM Autohaus Ltd which is located at Botley Mills.

Whilst I sincerley appreciate the comments above i would like to make it quite clear that i am in no way associated with any person or business mentioned in this or any other posts.

As such I would kindly ask that my company be left out of this story and not be mentioned in any further posts.

Many thanks,
Martyn
Hello Guys, I am Managing Director and sole owner of MGM Autohaus Ltd which is located at Botley Mills. Whilst I sincerley appreciate the comments above i would like to make it quite clear that i am in no way associated with any person or business mentioned in this or any other posts. As such I would kindly ask that my company be left out of this story and not be mentioned in any further posts. Many thanks, Martyn MGM Autohaus Ltd
  • Score: 3

2:33pm Wed 12 Mar 14

lowe esteem says...

Reality-man wrote:
We buy any Bra.com
All vehicles come with Cup-holders, but the Air Bags have been doctored.
Don't expect any support from after-sales either, as I think they're bust.
[quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: We buy any Bra.com[/p][/quote]All vehicles come with Cup-holders, but the Air Bags have been doctored. Don't expect any support from after-sales either, as I think they're bust. lowe esteem
  • Score: 1

4:22pm Fri 14 Mar 14

wwozzer says...

Bob Barnes wrote:
Good job I never bought a car from this cu*t, if I had & had problems he would have been dealt with in a manner that would have left him in a wheel chair for the rest of his life, I previously have done this myself or paid others to do it, he is Scum, if you want me to take care of him have a whip round for my return flight from Thailand, come on you Guys there are ways to Sort him it's easy all I see are rubbish comments
You'd put someone in a wheelchair for the rest of his life for selling you a dud car?

Bob, I think you have some serious anger issues.
[quote][p][bold]Bob Barnes[/bold] wrote: Good job I never bought a car from this cu*t, if I had & had problems he would have been dealt with in a manner that would have left him in a wheel chair for the rest of his life, I previously have done this myself or paid others to do it, he is Scum, if you want me to take care of him have a whip round for my return flight from Thailand, come on you Guys there are ways to Sort him it's easy all I see are rubbish comments[/p][/quote]You'd put someone in a wheelchair for the rest of his life for selling you a dud car? Bob, I think you have some serious anger issues. wwozzer
  • Score: 0

8:39am Sun 16 Mar 14

CarFraudster says...

Report the Fraud

http://www.ebay.co.u
k/sch/stanl_rudgl/m.
html?item=2514684135
24&pt=Automobiles_UK
&hash=item3a8caf7a54
&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047
675.l2562
Report the Fraud http://www.ebay.co.u k/sch/stanl_rudgl/m. html?item=2514684135 24&pt=Automobiles_UK &hash=item3a8caf7a54 &rt=nc&_trksid=p2047 675.l2562 CarFraudster
  • Score: 1

9:05am Sun 16 Mar 14

CarFraudster says...

Stanley Rudgley
Still at b000000 road
southampton
southampton
Hampshire
so19
United Kingdom

Phone:08446631104
Email:stanrudgley@ic
loud.com
VAT number: GB 171 4375 13
Stanley Rudgley Still at b000000 road southampton southampton Hampshire so19 United Kingdom Phone:08446631104 Email:stanrudgley@ic loud.com VAT number: GB 171 4375 13 CarFraudster
  • Score: 3

8:40pm Mon 17 Mar 14

shareaboutdodgycarsales.blogspot.com says...

It appears cars are being sold yet again from Fort Wallington Car Sales or should I say Service 4 Life or may be now I should be saying The Elite Car Company. Trading under it's from the same address as Fort Wallington Car Sales under Service 4 Life Ltd it appears not a lot has changed apart from it's now not an open show room but appointment only. May be they don't want The Southern Daily Echo tourning up on their doorstep again.

Please be aware in case this is another scam, sorry company under a new name.

Here are a couple of links, two to Ebay and one to gumtree where the vehicles are being sold. It appears that currently cars are not being sold on autotrader but if anyone knows different?

Please share this to stop them in their tracks.

http://www.ebay.co.u
k/usr/stanl_rudgl

http://ebayshowroom.
ebaymotorspro.co.uk/
emp/showroom.html?ci
d=FKacEijrWGQmzjLaZz
zHqg%3D%3D&adId=1200
0000013023633

http://www.gumtree.c
om/sellerads/1052837
288
It appears cars are being sold yet again from Fort Wallington Car Sales or should I say Service 4 Life or may be now I should be saying The Elite Car Company. Trading under it's from the same address as Fort Wallington Car Sales under Service 4 Life Ltd it appears not a lot has changed apart from it's now not an open show room but appointment only. May be they don't want The Southern Daily Echo tourning up on their doorstep again. Please be aware in case this is another scam, sorry company under a new name. Here are a couple of links, two to Ebay and one to gumtree where the vehicles are being sold. It appears that currently cars are not being sold on autotrader but if anyone knows different? Please share this to stop them in their tracks. http://www.ebay.co.u k/usr/stanl_rudgl http://ebayshowroom. ebaymotorspro.co.uk/ emp/showroom.html?ci d=FKacEijrWGQmzjLaZz zHqg%3D%3D&adId=1200 0000013023633 http://www.gumtree.c om/sellerads/1052837 288 shareaboutdodgycarsales.blogspot.com
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5:10pm Wed 19 Mar 14

CarFraudster says...

Links now changed has cars readvertised .

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facebook.com/fortwal
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Links now changed has cars readvertised . Upto date stuff on woolstoncarcomplaint s and facebook.com/fortwal lingtoncarsales and shareaboutdodgycarsa les CarFraudster
  • Score: 1

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