London Hotel pub boss fears new parking charge 'could damage Southampton 's economy'

Hampshire Chronicle: Co-owner of The London Hotel, David Riley Co-owner of The London Hotel, David Riley

SOUTHAMPTON’S night time economy could suffer after changes to overnight parking charges were introduced, a councillor has warned.

Motorists are now unable to rollover payments overnight for parking paid for before 6pm following the introduction of a flat £2 charge for evening parking in the city.

Parking machine users on Southampton streets could park overnight until 10am the next day – but charges for parking now starts at 8am following the flat rate introduction by Southampton City Council this month.

Southampton's opposition leader Cllr Royston Smith has criticised the move and fears city centre thriving nightspots such as Oxford Street and London Road will suffer as a result.

He added the council could potentially lose more money by people just paying £2 and collecting their car at 8am.

He said: “People will stop bringing their cars and potentially not come at all – damaging the night time economy and losing the council money.

“The Labour council’s parking policy lies in tatters. Once again they have wasted council taxpayers’ money and in doing so damaged the night time economy.

“Heads should roll for this incompetence and the first head should be that of the cabinet member. You couldn’t make it up.”

David Riley, co-owner of The London Hotel in Oxford Street, said the plan hasn’t been thought out by council chiefs.

He said: “They have only introduced this just after they increased prices.

“No one is going to look at the parking signs, especially with the appalling weather we have had.

“It’s going to affect business in the week, it’s really struggling now.

“People don’t want to go out in the week, only in the weekends, and we have to keep hold of the people that do go out, but they won’t want to be charged.

“I have always said don’t drive, leave the keys at home. We want to be responsible here but they are not allowing us to do so.

“If they are introducing charging to parking, fine, but please allow for parking overnight.”

A spokesman for Southampton City Council said: “The recent introduction of a flat £2 charge for evening parking means that it is currently not possible for parking that was paid for before 6pm to ‘roll over’ to the following day as it was previously.

“If customers wish to leave their cars parked in the council’s surface car parks (in other words not multi-storey or on-street) until the following day they can do so by paying at the end of the charging period.

“This is from midnight for surface car parks and from 8pm on-street.

“Charges for parking start from 8am so you should ensure that payment is made before this time if you’re planning to leave your car in one of our car parks overnight.”

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12:00pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Lone Ranger. says...

Does the Echo have to continually provide a Soapbox for Cllr Smith so that he can carry out his election campaign.
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His party introduced night time parking in Southampton.
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Does the Echo have to continually provide a Soapbox for Cllr Smith so that he can carry out his election campaign. . His party introduced night time parking in Southampton. . Lone Ranger.
  • Score: -8

12:03pm Tue 14 Jan 14

solentsunseeker says...

Shame, I think the nighttime economy is making enough profit, mainly from our student population, who in the main don't drive into town.
Shame, I think the nighttime economy is making enough profit, mainly from our student population, who in the main don't drive into town. solentsunseeker
  • Score: -7

12:21pm Tue 14 Jan 14

sotongirlie says...

I've written to SCC regarding poor lighting around ticket machines and the fact that in London Road, if you park at 5.45pm it only gives you until 6pm for £2!
I've written to SCC regarding poor lighting around ticket machines and the fact that in London Road, if you park at 5.45pm it only gives you until 6pm for £2! sotongirlie
  • Score: 11

12:24pm Tue 14 Jan 14

sotonbusdriver says...

The council may change the parking times, and charges,,,, But people returning at 8am to avoid more costs instead of 10am, may well be more likely to be under the influence,,,
Also causing additional traffic at the 8-9am rush hour,,,
But then although the council may lose parking charges as people avoid using town, it could be cost effective as there will be a lot less drunks, so Policing will be reduced too....
Swings and roundabouts...
The council may change the parking times, and charges,,,, But people returning at 8am to avoid more costs instead of 10am, may well be more likely to be under the influence,,, Also causing additional traffic at the 8-9am rush hour,,, But then although the council may lose parking charges as people avoid using town, it could be cost effective as there will be a lot less drunks, so Policing will be reduced too.... Swings and roundabouts... sotonbusdriver
  • Score: -3

12:30pm Tue 14 Jan 14

S!monOn says...

I've never driven into town and left my car overnight.... so don't understand why people do. Is it to save on taxi fare?
I've never driven into town and left my car overnight.... so don't understand why people do. Is it to save on taxi fare? S!monOn
  • Score: 0

12:38pm Tue 14 Jan 14

StevenGalton says...

I totally disagree with this local tax by Labour, but it really is a joke to introduce these charges and then have non illuminated payment machines!

I used the one in the guildhall carpark yesterday just before 7pm and I couldn't see a thing.
I totally disagree with this local tax by Labour, but it really is a joke to introduce these charges and then have non illuminated payment machines! I used the one in the guildhall carpark yesterday just before 7pm and I couldn't see a thing. StevenGalton
  • Score: 22

12:48pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Twinkle58 says...

Southampton City Council has always been so short sighted when it comes to dealing with problems involving our City as a whole. Do they actually care?
Southampton City Council has always been so short sighted when it comes to dealing with problems involving our City as a whole. Do they actually care? Twinkle58
  • Score: 14

12:53pm Tue 14 Jan 14

sotonboy84 says...

If you can afford the London Hotel's drink prices, you won't be worried about a parking charge!
If you can afford the London Hotel's drink prices, you won't be worried about a parking charge! sotonboy84
  • Score: 7

1:14pm Tue 14 Jan 14

squirel1975 says...

S!monOn wrote:
I've never driven into town and left my car overnight.... so don't understand why people do. Is it to save on taxi fare?
Yes, that's right. But also think about people who live in the centre who may have someone from outside of town come over to stay. It means that that person, who is supporting the City by bringing their custom to the restaurants and bars (and by paying for parking!) is forced to get up befeore 8am to feed the meter - it makes no sense. That person probably ain't going to come back too often, or will go home early.
[quote][p][bold]S!monOn[/bold] wrote: I've never driven into town and left my car overnight.... so don't understand why people do. Is it to save on taxi fare?[/p][/quote]Yes, that's right. But also think about people who live in the centre who may have someone from outside of town come over to stay. It means that that person, who is supporting the City by bringing their custom to the restaurants and bars (and by paying for parking!) is forced to get up befeore 8am to feed the meter - it makes no sense. That person probably ain't going to come back too often, or will go home early. squirel1975
  • Score: 13

1:28pm Tue 14 Jan 14

squirel1975 says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
Does the Echo have to continually provide a Soapbox for Cllr Smith so that he can carry out his election campaign.
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His party introduced night time parking in Southampton.
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This is a real problem for me personally (sorry for being so selfish). I live in town and finish work very late sometimes and sometimes I need to bring a work vehicle back. Previously I parked up at 2am, paid the parking through to 1pm the next day and all was good. Now I have to get up again at 7:30am. Not best pleased. Especially with the response from the Council (to a paying Customer) which is basically 'tough - get up early, we don't care'.
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: Does the Echo have to continually provide a Soapbox for Cllr Smith so that he can carry out his election campaign. . His party introduced night time parking in Southampton. .[/p][/quote]This is a real problem for me personally (sorry for being so selfish). I live in town and finish work very late sometimes and sometimes I need to bring a work vehicle back. Previously I parked up at 2am, paid the parking through to 1pm the next day and all was good. Now I have to get up again at 7:30am. Not best pleased. Especially with the response from the Council (to a paying Customer) which is basically 'tough - get up early, we don't care'. squirel1975
  • Score: 19

1:37pm Tue 14 Jan 14

brent clifton says...

Every sympathy for the owners of the restaurants and bars who are always the first to suffer in a recession - barrens of empty street parking spaces clearly demostrate that during the day and weekday evenings which are also indicative of the council hugely overpricing street parking so it just doesn't get used. Hence, the council look for other ludicrous fund-raising routes rather than optimise what they have.

But equal victims are inner-city local residents who tend not to be the richest demographic and now need to find £3 each day (and feed the meter!) to park from 6pm to 9am..

What a disgrace.
Every sympathy for the owners of the restaurants and bars who are always the first to suffer in a recession - barrens of empty street parking spaces clearly demostrate that during the day and weekday evenings which are also indicative of the council hugely overpricing street parking so it just doesn't get used. Hence, the council look for other ludicrous fund-raising routes rather than optimise what they have. But equal victims are inner-city local residents who tend not to be the richest demographic and now need to find £3 each day (and feed the meter!) to park from 6pm to 9am.. What a disgrace. brent clifton
  • Score: 11

2:47pm Tue 14 Jan 14

aldermoorboy says...

Labour are destroying this town vote them out asap.
Labour are destroying this town vote them out asap. aldermoorboy
  • Score: 15

2:48pm Tue 14 Jan 14

jackois says...

Twinkle58 wrote:
Southampton City Council has always been so short sighted when it comes to dealing with problems involving our City as a whole. Do they actually care?
Yes they care... they have cared for ages about introducing parking charges in the evening... they have cared so much that they have consistently ignored public opinion on this... they do care... about money.

Not to worry though. The day will arrive where their pals at Westminster will cut their funding enough that they have to start getting rid of the twerps at the top instead of lollipop ladies and librarians, as they do now.
[quote][p][bold]Twinkle58[/bold] wrote: Southampton City Council has always been so short sighted when it comes to dealing with problems involving our City as a whole. Do they actually care?[/p][/quote]Yes they care... they have cared for ages about introducing parking charges in the evening... they have cared so much that they have consistently ignored public opinion on this... they do care... about money. Not to worry though. The day will arrive where their pals at Westminster will cut their funding enough that they have to start getting rid of the twerps at the top instead of lollipop ladies and librarians, as they do now. jackois
  • Score: 11

3:41pm Tue 14 Jan 14

LadySam says...

I live in Shirley and to avoid paying parking charges people park all along suburban roads for the day. I can't blame them for trying to save money but using our streets as an all day car park is not on. The dust carts can barely get down the streets as many cars park on both sides of the road and we can't park outside our own homes. Charging more and more will only increase the problem.
I live in Shirley and to avoid paying parking charges people park all along suburban roads for the day. I can't blame them for trying to save money but using our streets as an all day car park is not on. The dust carts can barely get down the streets as many cars park on both sides of the road and we can't park outside our own homes. Charging more and more will only increase the problem. LadySam
  • Score: 10

3:46pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Lone Ranger. says...

aldermoorboy wrote:
Labour are destroying this town vote them out asap.
No Tories did that over the last 8 years ....... where have you been .... on a cruise again
[quote][p][bold]aldermoorboy[/bold] wrote: Labour are destroying this town vote them out asap.[/p][/quote]No Tories did that over the last 8 years ....... where have you been .... on a cruise again Lone Ranger.
  • Score: -9

3:59pm Tue 14 Jan 14

03alpe01 says...

When will the congestion charge come in? It's what all this is leading to. So we can have the 'business is booming in Southampton just like it is in London, look at us, we have so many people wanting to come and work here, investment in the City blablablablala' baloney from the Council.
When will the congestion charge come in? It's what all this is leading to. So we can have the 'business is booming in Southampton just like it is in London, look at us, we have so many people wanting to come and work here, investment in the City blablablablala' baloney from the Council. 03alpe01
  • Score: 7

4:10pm Tue 14 Jan 14

bigfella777 says...

sotonboy84 wrote:
If you can afford the London Hotel's drink prices, you won't be worried about a parking charge!
I second that, it's about 4 quid a beer, would never go in there, this is the real issue why people don't go out anymore. me and 3 mates went out for a few beers in Oxford St and then a curry in Kutis at Crimbo. I spent £80 in 3 hours, I'm still p1ssed off about it now £17 for 4 pints, forget it.
[quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: If you can afford the London Hotel's drink prices, you won't be worried about a parking charge![/p][/quote]I second that, it's about 4 quid a beer, would never go in there, this is the real issue why people don't go out anymore. me and 3 mates went out for a few beers in Oxford St and then a curry in Kutis at Crimbo. I spent £80 in 3 hours, I'm still p1ssed off about it now £17 for 4 pints, forget it. bigfella777
  • Score: 3

7:13pm Tue 14 Jan 14

kevinchandler100@talktalk.net says...

It's not only at night that hurt's the daytime parking is scandalous to park at the back of the wall by the west quay for one hour, it's £1.60p if you want to park just for 1.5 minutes, it's £3.00 it's a rip off to park on a meter 20 minuets is 80p and the meters DO NOT GIVE CHANGE so you are out of pocket before you have gone shopping. As you don't all ways have the right change.
It's not only at night that hurt's the daytime parking is scandalous to park at the back of the wall by the west quay for one hour, it's £1.60p if you want to park just for 1.5 minutes, it's £3.00 it's a rip off to park on a meter 20 minuets is 80p and the meters DO NOT GIVE CHANGE so you are out of pocket before you have gone shopping. As you don't all ways have the right change. kevinchandler100@talktalk.net
  • Score: 5

9:38pm Tue 14 Jan 14

squirel1975 says...

03alpe01 wrote:
When will the congestion charge come in? It's what all this is leading to. So we can have the 'business is booming in Southampton just like it is in London, look at us, we have so many people wanting to come and work here, investment in the City blablablablala' baloney from the Council.
What we need first is a proper park and ride just off the M27 to service all the out of town people coming shopping, coming to work and coming to watch the football.
[quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: When will the congestion charge come in? It's what all this is leading to. So we can have the 'business is booming in Southampton just like it is in London, look at us, we have so many people wanting to come and work here, investment in the City blablablablala' baloney from the Council.[/p][/quote]What we need first is a proper park and ride just off the M27 to service all the out of town people coming shopping, coming to work and coming to watch the football. squirel1975
  • Score: 5

9:39pm Tue 14 Jan 14

biggus2 says...

the council are nothing more than a money grabbing bunch of B*******ds. As far as how much time you get. The machines can be programmed to calculate the amount of time you get for the amount of money you put in ie 50p for 20 mins but the council don't want that they want you to put in £2 and only stay for 20 mins. Well they should have charged all the cruise liner traffic for parking on the highway which is what the did for hours. Now if I am going to any town for the day I get the bus or the train its cheaper than parking. I bet Council Officials don't have to pay for parking.
the council are nothing more than a money grabbing bunch of B*******ds. As far as how much time you get. The machines can be programmed to calculate the amount of time you get for the amount of money you put in ie 50p for 20 mins but the council don't want that they want you to put in £2 and only stay for 20 mins. Well they should have charged all the cruise liner traffic for parking on the highway which is what the did for hours. Now if I am going to any town for the day I get the bus or the train its cheaper than parking. I bet Council Officials don't have to pay for parking. biggus2
  • Score: 2

10:08pm Tue 14 Jan 14

SOULJACKER says...

I hate this useless council, we need a revolution & kick them out!
They ride 'roughshot' over our points of view & they never listen to us.
Kick all these scum bags out now & be done with it!
I hate this useless council, we need a revolution & kick them out! They ride 'roughshot' over our points of view & they never listen to us. Kick all these scum bags out now & be done with it! SOULJACKER
  • Score: 5

11:01pm Tue 14 Jan 14

03alpe01 says...

SOULJACKER wrote:
I hate this useless council, we need a revolution & kick them out!
They ride 'roughshot' over our points of view & they never listen to us.
Kick all these scum bags out now & be done with it!
I'm in when's the revolution?
[quote][p][bold]SOULJACKER[/bold] wrote: I hate this useless council, we need a revolution & kick them out! They ride 'roughshot' over our points of view & they never listen to us. Kick all these scum bags out now & be done with it![/p][/quote]I'm in when's the revolution? 03alpe01
  • Score: 3

1:16am Wed 15 Jan 14

WalkingOnAWire says...

As an Oxford Street resident this makes no sense to me. I would like to see someone from the council present the financial case for this. It must be hurting all the local businesses, and driving diners in particular to simply decide to spend their money outside the city - for example Winchester where evening and Sunday parking is free. It also directly impacts residents whose guests can no longer park on the street and pay after 6pm to rollover into the next day. All for what must be a miniscule amount of incremental revenue.
As an Oxford Street resident this makes no sense to me. I would like to see someone from the council present the financial case for this. It must be hurting all the local businesses, and driving diners in particular to simply decide to spend their money outside the city - for example Winchester where evening and Sunday parking is free. It also directly impacts residents whose guests can no longer park on the street and pay after 6pm to rollover into the next day. All for what must be a miniscule amount of incremental revenue. WalkingOnAWire
  • Score: 5

9:58am Wed 15 Jan 14

sotonboy84 says...

biggus2 wrote:
the council are nothing more than a money grabbing bunch of B*******ds. As far as how much time you get. The machines can be programmed to calculate the amount of time you get for the amount of money you put in ie 50p for 20 mins but the council don't want that they want you to put in £2 and only stay for 20 mins. Well they should have charged all the cruise liner traffic for parking on the highway which is what the did for hours. Now if I am going to any town for the day I get the bus or the train its cheaper than parking. I bet Council Officials don't have to pay for parking.
It's just like the machines over the Itchen Bridge. The council have admitted that the machines can give change but they have programmed them not to as they feel it would cause congestion if a driver dropped their change when picking it up from the machine. I can't see the difference between this pathetic excuse and the human being that worked on the toll booths for over 30 years that handed back the change. Pathetic excuse to riase even more revenue.
[quote][p][bold]biggus2[/bold] wrote: the council are nothing more than a money grabbing bunch of B*******ds. As far as how much time you get. The machines can be programmed to calculate the amount of time you get for the amount of money you put in ie 50p for 20 mins but the council don't want that they want you to put in £2 and only stay for 20 mins. Well they should have charged all the cruise liner traffic for parking on the highway which is what the did for hours. Now if I am going to any town for the day I get the bus or the train its cheaper than parking. I bet Council Officials don't have to pay for parking.[/p][/quote]It's just like the machines over the Itchen Bridge. The council have admitted that the machines can give change but they have programmed them not to as they feel it would cause congestion if a driver dropped their change when picking it up from the machine. I can't see the difference between this pathetic excuse and the human being that worked on the toll booths for over 30 years that handed back the change. Pathetic excuse to riase even more revenue. sotonboy84
  • Score: 2

10:52am Wed 15 Jan 14

Ronnie G says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
Does the Echo have to continually provide a Soapbox for Cllr Smith so that he can carry out his election campaign.
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His party introduced night time parking in Southampton.
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And Labour agreed to it, without even reading what they were agreeing to!!
Then came the cries from Labour's Matt Stevens, with claims of 'we've been tricked'!
Nothing to do with the fact they were not really interested at that time, and they didn't have a clue then of what they were doing, so, relying totally on Tories, they agreed to sign without reading!
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: Does the Echo have to continually provide a Soapbox for Cllr Smith so that he can carry out his election campaign. . His party introduced night time parking in Southampton. .[/p][/quote]And Labour agreed to it, without even reading what they were agreeing to!! Then came the cries from Labour's Matt Stevens, with claims of 'we've been tricked'! Nothing to do with the fact they were not really interested at that time, and they didn't have a clue then of what they were doing, so, relying totally on Tories, they agreed to sign without reading! Ronnie G
  • Score: 2

12:42pm Wed 15 Jan 14

Ronnie G says...

WalkingOnAWire wrote:
As an Oxford Street resident this makes no sense to me. I would like to see someone from the council present the financial case for this. It must be hurting all the local businesses, and driving diners in particular to simply decide to spend their money outside the city - for example Winchester where evening and Sunday parking is free. It also directly impacts residents whose guests can no longer park on the street and pay after 6pm to rollover into the next day. All for what must be a miniscule amount of incremental revenue.
Agreed.
Just To make matters even worse, no-one outside of our Labour Council will benefit from any extra revenue they estimate to collect from raising car parking charges in our city. Remember they have miscalculated the estimated income of revenue 'needed 'on 2 previous occasions. This money will never see council coffers, nor will it be seen by anyone outside our corrupt Southampton Labour /Union Council members. With the hike in parking charges and the changes having now been applied to parking meters in our city, the damage IS done.

But hang on, Wonderful news!, The revenue raised is to be deposited into the Council restoration pot!
Oops, sorry false alarm :(
No, sadly, this is nothin to do with improvements to or keeping hold of our City's Leisure, Culture or Heritage assets.........
Oh No, get a load of this,
It appears the revenue that is raised from Labour hiking the Southampton City car parking charges and damaging the city's economy in the meantime, will be in fact deposited into a restoration pot.....
The Unions Pay Restoration Pot!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]WalkingOnAWire[/bold] wrote: As an Oxford Street resident this makes no sense to me. I would like to see someone from the council present the financial case for this. It must be hurting all the local businesses, and driving diners in particular to simply decide to spend their money outside the city - for example Winchester where evening and Sunday parking is free. It also directly impacts residents whose guests can no longer park on the street and pay after 6pm to rollover into the next day. All for what must be a miniscule amount of incremental revenue.[/p][/quote]Agreed. Just To make matters even worse, no-one outside of our Labour Council will benefit from any extra revenue they estimate to collect from raising car parking charges in our city. Remember they have miscalculated the estimated income of revenue 'needed 'on 2 previous occasions. This money will never see council coffers, nor will it be seen by anyone outside our corrupt Southampton Labour /Union Council members. With the hike in parking charges and the changes having now been applied to parking meters in our city, the damage IS done. But hang on, Wonderful news!, The revenue raised is to be deposited into the Council restoration pot! Oops, sorry false alarm :( No, sadly, this is nothin to do with improvements to or keeping hold of our City's Leisure, Culture or Heritage assets......... Oh No, get a load of this, It appears the revenue that is raised from Labour hiking the Southampton City car parking charges and damaging the city's economy in the meantime, will be in fact deposited into a restoration pot..... The Unions Pay Restoration Pot!!!!! Ronnie G
  • Score: -1

1:30pm Thu 16 Jan 14

Jesus_02 says...

The cost of parking in southampton is scandleous ( ~ £6 per day) as is the cost of public (privitised) transport (~£4-£5) a day. Nevemind the nighttime economy...is £100+ per month fair just to get to work? How does that effect the everyday economy?
The cost of parking in southampton is scandleous ( ~ £6 per day) as is the cost of public (privitised) transport (~£4-£5) a day. Nevemind the nighttime economy...is £100+ per month fair just to get to work? How does that effect the everyday economy? Jesus_02
  • Score: 1

9:11pm Mon 27 Jan 14

sk98765 says...

People are now starting to rent out their parking spaces, with more people doing this it will reduce parking charges and renters can earn a living too. www.parkinglodgers.c
om offers good advise
People are now starting to rent out their parking spaces, with more people doing this it will reduce parking charges and renters can earn a living too. www.parkinglodgers.c om offers good advise sk98765
  • Score: 1

9:14pm Mon 27 Jan 14

sk98765 says...

sk98765 wrote:
People are now starting to rent out their parking spaces, with more people doing this it will reduce parking charges and renters can earn a living too. www.parkinglodgers.c

om offers good advise
People are now starting to rent out their parking spaces, with more people doing this it will reduce parking charges and renters can earn a living too. www.parkinglodgers.c
om offers good advise
[quote][p][bold]sk98765[/bold] wrote: People are now starting to rent out their parking spaces, with more people doing this it will reduce parking charges and renters can earn a living too. www.parkinglodgers.c om offers good advise[/p][/quote]People are now starting to rent out their parking spaces, with more people doing this it will reduce parking charges and renters can earn a living too. www.parkinglodgers.c om offers good advise sk98765
  • Score: 0

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