5,000 wasps found in St Cross bedroom

Pest controller John Birkett said he had

Pest controller John Birkett said he had "never seen anything like it"

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IN decades of pest control John Birkett has seen many things, but nothing like this.

This giant wasps' nest had eaten into the bed of a spare bedroom at a Winchester house.

Mr Birkett said: “In 45 years I have never seen anything like it. There must have been 5,000 wasps.”

The homeowner, who asked to remain anonymous, lives alone in the five-bedroom house in St Cross and had not been in the spare room for three months before her son opened the door and saw the huge nest. The window had been left open.

The wasps were chewing through the pillows and into the mattress to expand their home. The nest measured about three feet wide by two-and-a-half feet deep.

“I opened the door and I just couldn’t bloody believe it," Mr Birkett said. "It was the most incredible thing I've seen.

“I got dressed up like a spaceman and tried to destroy as many as I could with the workers flying around the room."

The nest split in half during the struggle, releasing 2,000 wasps. "I was covered in them," he said. "The room was completely full of wasps."

Mr Birkett, of Owslebury-based Longwood Services, used chemical spray to kill the insects during the two-hour operation on Sunday (August 24).

But he had mixed feelings about putting so many creatures to death. “It is amazing how they build it, by chewing the wood off gates and things. Although they are a pest in homes, they are a friend of the gardener by killing aphids.

“People think we’re out-and-out killers but I looked at that and thought ‘what a shame’ – it was a work of art and they worked so hard, but she looked at it and said ‘no no no – you’ve got to get rid of it’.

"The client was terrified."

Mr Birkett was able to save a hand-made blanket under the nest at his client's request.

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9:01am Wed 27 Aug 14

Francis1991 says...

"The client lives alone in the five-bedroom house in St Cross and had not been in the spare room for several months "

Maybe it's time to downsize and let a young family move in, I mean it's not like we are in the middle of a housing shortage or anything...
"The client lives alone in the five-bedroom house in St Cross and had not been in the spare room for several months " Maybe it's time to downsize and let a young family move in, I mean it's not like we are in the middle of a housing shortage or anything... Francis1991
  • Score: -90

9:12am Wed 27 Aug 14

dreamcatcher74 says...

Francis1991 wrote:
"The client lives alone in the five-bedroom house in St Cross and had not been in the spare room for several months "

Maybe it's time to downsize and let a young family move in, I mean it's not like we are in the middle of a housing shortage or anything...
He probably owns the house himself I very much doubt a 5 bedroom house in St Cross is local authority!!
But back to the real point of the story im glad no one was hurt and that they didn't try to deal with it themselves! What an impressive nest!
[quote][p][bold]Francis1991[/bold] wrote: "The client lives alone in the five-bedroom house in St Cross and had not been in the spare room for several months " Maybe it's time to downsize and let a young family move in, I mean it's not like we are in the middle of a housing shortage or anything...[/p][/quote]He probably owns the house himself I very much doubt a 5 bedroom house in St Cross is local authority!! But back to the real point of the story im glad no one was hurt and that they didn't try to deal with it themselves! What an impressive nest! dreamcatcher74
  • Score: 72

9:33am Wed 27 Aug 14

s&k says...

That's not a Tracey Emin installation is it?
That's not a Tracey Emin installation is it? s&k
  • Score: 19

10:10am Wed 27 Aug 14

tabby-avalon says...

poor wasps, was it really necessary to kill them all. :(
poor wasps, was it really necessary to kill them all. :( tabby-avalon
  • Score: -57

10:35am Wed 27 Aug 14

rozmister says...

dreamcatcher74 wrote:
Francis1991 wrote:
"The client lives alone in the five-bedroom house in St Cross and had not been in the spare room for several months "

Maybe it's time to downsize and let a young family move in, I mean it's not like we are in the middle of a housing shortage or anything...
He probably owns the house himself I very much doubt a 5 bedroom house in St Cross is local authority!!
But back to the real point of the story im glad no one was hurt and that they didn't try to deal with it themselves! What an impressive nest!
Whether they own it or it's local authority isn't relevant. If they downsized a family could move into it - either as council housing or by buying it. Large properties are made more expensive to buy because there's not many on the market and there's so few available because lots of big houses are lived in by one or two people who don't fancy moving.
[quote][p][bold]dreamcatcher74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Francis1991[/bold] wrote: "The client lives alone in the five-bedroom house in St Cross and had not been in the spare room for several months " Maybe it's time to downsize and let a young family move in, I mean it's not like we are in the middle of a housing shortage or anything...[/p][/quote]He probably owns the house himself I very much doubt a 5 bedroom house in St Cross is local authority!! But back to the real point of the story im glad no one was hurt and that they didn't try to deal with it themselves! What an impressive nest![/p][/quote]Whether they own it or it's local authority isn't relevant. If they downsized a family could move into it - either as council housing or by buying it. Large properties are made more expensive to buy because there's not many on the market and there's so few available because lots of big houses are lived in by one or two people who don't fancy moving. rozmister
  • Score: -100

10:47am Wed 27 Aug 14

s&k says...

tabby-avalon wrote:
poor wasps, was it really necessary to kill them all. :(
As Tommy Saxondale said: "wasps are b*st*rds."
[quote][p][bold]tabby-avalon[/bold] wrote: poor wasps, was it really necessary to kill them all. :([/p][/quote]As Tommy Saxondale said: "wasps are b*st*rds." s&k
  • Score: 31

11:08am Wed 27 Aug 14

tinkerbell101 says...

I can't believe she hasn't been in there for months! That room must be terribly dusty!
I can't believe she hasn't been in there for months! That room must be terribly dusty! tinkerbell101
  • Score: -16

11:20am Wed 27 Aug 14

JackJohnson says...

Francis1991 wrote:
"The client lives alone in the five-bedroom house in St Cross and had not been in the spare room for several months "

Maybe it's time to downsize and let a young family move in, I mean it's not like we are in the middle of a housing shortage or anything...
If you can't afford what you haven't got, and are envious of those that can, perhaps it's time you got off your backside and earned it. ;-)
[quote][p][bold]Francis1991[/bold] wrote: "The client lives alone in the five-bedroom house in St Cross and had not been in the spare room for several months " Maybe it's time to downsize and let a young family move in, I mean it's not like we are in the middle of a housing shortage or anything...[/p][/quote]If you can't afford what you haven't got, and are envious of those that can, perhaps it's time you got off your backside and earned it. ;-) JackJohnson
  • Score: 139

12:57pm Wed 27 Aug 14

Bibliomancer says...

JackJohnson wrote:
Francis1991 wrote:
"The client lives alone in the five-bedroom house in St Cross and had not been in the spare room for several months "

Maybe it's time to downsize and let a young family move in, I mean it's not like we are in the middle of a housing shortage or anything...
If you can't afford what you haven't got, and are envious of those that can, perhaps it's time you got off your backside and earned it. ;-)
If you can't afford what you haven't got, and are envious of those that can, perhaps it's time you got off your backside and earned it. ;-)


I think we're straying from the point, which is GIANT HORROR MOVIE WASP NEST IN THE BLOODY BEDROOM!
[quote][p][bold]JackJohnson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Francis1991[/bold] wrote: "The client lives alone in the five-bedroom house in St Cross and had not been in the spare room for several months " Maybe it's time to downsize and let a young family move in, I mean it's not like we are in the middle of a housing shortage or anything...[/p][/quote]If you can't afford what you haven't got, and are envious of those that can, perhaps it's time you got off your backside and earned it. ;-)[/p][/quote][quote]If you can't afford what you haven't got, and are envious of those that can, perhaps it's time you got off your backside and earned it. ;-)[/quote] I think we're straying from the point, which is GIANT HORROR MOVIE WASP NEST IN THE BLOODY BEDROOM! Bibliomancer
  • Score: 73

1:06pm Wed 27 Aug 14

whitchurchwhinger says...

I think you're all missing the most important part of the article;

"Mr Birkett was able to save the crocheted blanket under the nest."
I think you're all missing the most important part of the article; "Mr Birkett was able to save the crocheted blanket under the nest." whitchurchwhinger
  • Score: 117

1:25pm Wed 27 Aug 14

grumpy om says...

i have had a look at pick and i can only make it 4999 !!
i have had a look at pick and i can only make it 4999 !! grumpy om
  • Score: 23

1:34pm Wed 27 Aug 14

JackJohnson says...

For sale: Confetti. May contain dead wasps.
For sale: Confetti. May contain dead wasps. JackJohnson
  • Score: 12

1:55pm Wed 27 Aug 14

jetecos88 says...

Francis1991 get a life. Judging is terrible. And so you should feel ashamed of your self. I will buy a house in a country and live alone if I want to and can afford it. Everyone is out for themselves and everyone should have freedom and rights. Government and housing schemes provides those who can't afford housing it's great and i approve but they also take away our freedom and rights. Don't leave a message again regarding this. It's an attack and I may report it.
As for the story I don't have and clue what if do in this situation. Wasps terrify me. Mostly because they loved me since I was and child and my mum told me to avoid them because they can put you in hospital or worse kill you. I guess the fear of them never left need since then. But I wasn't afraid of any creature back then. Lol ask my sister about the snails. Lol
Anyway one side of this story is Woah!!!!
And yes she does not need to go in the spare room in months it's her home and her life so just grow up. But Woah if I walked in there instead as a guest to find this. But on the other hand it's good on the wasps to be killed they can't be relocated. And it's best for the family. But on the other hand. It is amazing that they built this nest in some ways. Creepy. Some ways fascinated. And some ways necessary. But I couldn't have the crochet after it all. Creepy horror and guilt would spring to mind everytime I see it. But would make a nice memorial and story telling passed down her families generations. Lol. Or to creep out any guest who stay there in that room. Sleep tight
Francis1991 get a life. Judging is terrible. And so you should feel ashamed of your self. I will buy a house in a country and live alone if I want to and can afford it. Everyone is out for themselves and everyone should have freedom and rights. Government and housing schemes provides those who can't afford housing it's great and i approve but they also take away our freedom and rights. Don't leave a message again regarding this. It's an attack and I may report it. As for the story I don't have and clue what if do in this situation. Wasps terrify me. Mostly because they loved me since I was and child and my mum told me to avoid them because they can put you in hospital or worse kill you. I guess the fear of them never left need since then. But I wasn't afraid of any creature back then. Lol ask my sister about the snails. Lol Anyway one side of this story is Woah!!!! And yes she does not need to go in the spare room in months it's her home and her life so just grow up. But Woah if I walked in there instead as a guest to find this. But on the other hand it's good on the wasps to be killed they can't be relocated. And it's best for the family. But on the other hand. It is amazing that they built this nest in some ways. Creepy. Some ways fascinated. And some ways necessary. But I couldn't have the crochet after it all. Creepy horror and guilt would spring to mind everytime I see it. But would make a nice memorial and story telling passed down her families generations. Lol. Or to creep out any guest who stay there in that room. Sleep tight jetecos88
  • Score: -18

2:03pm Wed 27 Aug 14

SpinningJenny says...

whitchurchwhinger wrote:
I think you're all missing the most important part of the article;

"Mr Birkett was able to save the crocheted blanket under the nest."
Speaking as a knitter and crocheter, I can tell you that a blanket that size would have taken upwards of a hundred hours - definitely worth saving!
[quote][p][bold]whitchurchwhinger[/bold] wrote: I think you're all missing the most important part of the article; "Mr Birkett was able to save the crocheted blanket under the nest."[/p][/quote]Speaking as a knitter and crocheter, I can tell you that a blanket that size would have taken upwards of a hundred hours - definitely worth saving! SpinningJenny
  • Score: 41

2:50pm Wed 27 Aug 14

speedy231278 says...

Winchester, that well-known suburb of Bournemouth....
Winchester, that well-known suburb of Bournemouth.... speedy231278
  • Score: 1

2:52pm Wed 27 Aug 14

speedy231278 says...

Francis1991 wrote:
"The client lives alone in the five-bedroom house in St Cross and had not been in the spare room for several months "

Maybe it's time to downsize and let a young family move in, I mean it's not like we are in the middle of a housing shortage or anything...
Perhaps he/she worked to acquire a house, rather that pop out a couple of sprogs and claim it from the state?
[quote][p][bold]Francis1991[/bold] wrote: "The client lives alone in the five-bedroom house in St Cross and had not been in the spare room for several months " Maybe it's time to downsize and let a young family move in, I mean it's not like we are in the middle of a housing shortage or anything...[/p][/quote]Perhaps he/she worked to acquire a house, rather that pop out a couple of sprogs and claim it from the state? speedy231278
  • Score: 58

2:53pm Wed 27 Aug 14

speedy231278 says...

*than
*than speedy231278
  • Score: 0

3:49pm Wed 27 Aug 14

nothingtofear says...

jetecos88 wrote:
Francis1991 get a life. Judging is terrible. And so you should feel ashamed of your self. I will buy a house in a country and live alone if I want to and can afford it. Everyone is out for themselves and everyone should have freedom and rights. Government and housing schemes provides those who can't afford housing it's great and i approve but they also take away our freedom and rights. Don't leave a message again regarding this. It's an attack and I may report it.
As for the story I don't have and clue what if do in this situation. Wasps terrify me. Mostly because they loved me since I was and child and my mum told me to avoid them because they can put you in hospital or worse kill you. I guess the fear of them never left need since then. But I wasn't afraid of any creature back then. Lol ask my sister about the snails. Lol
Anyway one side of this story is Woah!!!!
And yes she does not need to go in the spare room in months it's her home and her life so just grow up. But Woah if I walked in there instead as a guest to find this. But on the other hand it's good on the wasps to be killed they can't be relocated. And it's best for the family. But on the other hand. It is amazing that they built this nest in some ways. Creepy. Some ways fascinated. And some ways necessary. But I couldn't have the crochet after it all. Creepy horror and guilt would spring to mind everytime I see it. But would make a nice memorial and story telling passed down her families generations. Lol. Or to creep out any guest who stay there in that room. Sleep tight
'It's an attack and I may report it'.

An attack on whom precisely? And whom do you think you may be able to report it to? Pathetic
[quote][p][bold]jetecos88[/bold] wrote: Francis1991 get a life. Judging is terrible. And so you should feel ashamed of your self. I will buy a house in a country and live alone if I want to and can afford it. Everyone is out for themselves and everyone should have freedom and rights. Government and housing schemes provides those who can't afford housing it's great and i approve but they also take away our freedom and rights. Don't leave a message again regarding this. It's an attack and I may report it. As for the story I don't have and clue what if do in this situation. Wasps terrify me. Mostly because they loved me since I was and child and my mum told me to avoid them because they can put you in hospital or worse kill you. I guess the fear of them never left need since then. But I wasn't afraid of any creature back then. Lol ask my sister about the snails. Lol Anyway one side of this story is Woah!!!! And yes she does not need to go in the spare room in months it's her home and her life so just grow up. But Woah if I walked in there instead as a guest to find this. But on the other hand it's good on the wasps to be killed they can't be relocated. And it's best for the family. But on the other hand. It is amazing that they built this nest in some ways. Creepy. Some ways fascinated. And some ways necessary. But I couldn't have the crochet after it all. Creepy horror and guilt would spring to mind everytime I see it. But would make a nice memorial and story telling passed down her families generations. Lol. Or to creep out any guest who stay there in that room. Sleep tight[/p][/quote]'It's an attack and I may report it'. An attack on whom precisely? And whom do you think you may be able to report it to? Pathetic nothingtofear
  • Score: 5

4:06pm Wed 27 Aug 14

Dorset Logic says...

tabby-avalon wrote:
poor wasps, was it really necessary to kill them all. :(
I think they kept 10 for the wasp rehabilitation program. So don't take it so hard.

Those 10 will be encouraged to make nests in garden shed's and will hopefully spread the word to less fortunate wasps who sadly have to resort to nesting in beds in Winchester.

Good will come out of this. Keep the upper lip firm.
[quote][p][bold]tabby-avalon[/bold] wrote: poor wasps, was it really necessary to kill them all. :([/p][/quote]I think they kept 10 for the wasp rehabilitation program. So don't take it so hard. Those 10 will be encouraged to make nests in garden shed's and will hopefully spread the word to less fortunate wasps who sadly have to resort to nesting in beds in Winchester. Good will come out of this. Keep the upper lip firm. Dorset Logic
  • Score: 25

6:16pm Wed 27 Aug 14

old buffer says...

Can't believe the number of waspish comments that have come out of this.
Can't believe the number of waspish comments that have come out of this. old buffer
  • Score: 23

7:07pm Wed 27 Aug 14

twynhamob says...

Was this the same bunch that attacked a car at Castlepoint recently. Just shows what happens when Bournemouth Justices let the naughties of this town go free, they just move to another town. Well at least this is the only reason I can see as to why the story from Winchester is in the Bournemouth Echo.
Was this the same bunch that attacked a car at Castlepoint recently. Just shows what happens when Bournemouth Justices let the naughties of this town go free, they just move to another town. Well at least this is the only reason I can see as to why the story from Winchester is in the Bournemouth Echo. twynhamob
  • Score: 1

7:27pm Wed 27 Aug 14

JackJohnson says...

I like a good mystery story. I'm hoping this one has a sting in it.
I like a good mystery story. I'm hoping this one has a sting in it. JackJohnson
  • Score: 4

9:52pm Wed 27 Aug 14

kane iyer says...

The article does not say tenant -- rather, it says homeowner, which implies that the person *owns* the home (i.e., they bought and paid for it).

So how is it anyone's business how many people live in their own home?

Has the UK turned into that much of a socialist welfare state?
The article does not say tenant -- rather, it says homeowner, which implies that the person *owns* the home (i.e., they bought and paid for it). So how is it anyone's business how many people live in their own home? Has the UK turned into that much of a socialist welfare state? kane iyer
  • Score: 36

11:02pm Wed 27 Aug 14

JackJohnson says...

kane iyer wrote:
The article does not say tenant -- rather, it says homeowner, which implies that the person *owns* the home (i.e., they bought and paid for it).

So how is it anyone's business how many people live in their own home?

Has the UK turned into that much of a socialist welfare state?
It has become a very intolerant state. The 'living in a house that's too big' one is a mystery, though, as any council tenant with a spare room will be paying for it by way of reduced housing benefit.
[quote][p][bold]kane iyer[/bold] wrote: The article does not say tenant -- rather, it says homeowner, which implies that the person *owns* the home (i.e., they bought and paid for it). So how is it anyone's business how many people live in their own home? Has the UK turned into that much of a socialist welfare state?[/p][/quote]It has become a very intolerant state. The 'living in a house that's too big' one is a mystery, though, as any council tenant with a spare room will be paying for it by way of reduced housing benefit. JackJohnson
  • Score: 10

11:45pm Wed 27 Aug 14

Knitty says...

What kind of yarn was used for the crochet blanket? Useful to know they are wasp-proof
What kind of yarn was used for the crochet blanket? Useful to know they are wasp-proof Knitty
  • Score: 6

1:53am Thu 28 Aug 14

sergeant pepper says...

i read the news today o boy, 5000 wasps in st cross Winchester. and though the wasps were rather small, pest control just had to kill them all all. poor wasps we wondered where they'd gone. sergeant pepper
i read the news today o boy, 5000 wasps in st cross Winchester. and though the wasps were rather small, pest control just had to kill them all all. poor wasps we wondered where they'd gone. sergeant pepper sergeant pepper
  • Score: 5

7:00am Thu 28 Aug 14

hamworthygirl says...

Francis1991 wrote:
"The client lives alone in the five-bedroom house in St Cross and had not been in the spare room for several months "

Maybe it's time to downsize and let a young family move in, I mean it's not like we are in the middle of a housing shortage or anything...
Its highly likely its her own house, maybe she is elderly and doesnt want to move from her family home. We own a 3 bed semi and there is just the 2 of us should i move now then so you can buy it? Possibly if she is elderly shes isnt able to clean all the rooms and just hasnt opened the door.
[quote][p][bold]Francis1991[/bold] wrote: "The client lives alone in the five-bedroom house in St Cross and had not been in the spare room for several months " Maybe it's time to downsize and let a young family move in, I mean it's not like we are in the middle of a housing shortage or anything...[/p][/quote]Its highly likely its her own house, maybe she is elderly and doesnt want to move from her family home. We own a 3 bed semi and there is just the 2 of us should i move now then so you can buy it? Possibly if she is elderly shes isnt able to clean all the rooms and just hasnt opened the door. hamworthygirl
  • Score: 13

11:13am Thu 28 Aug 14

tototoner says...

the most shocking part of that article is that someone lives alone in a 5 bedroom house in one of the most expensive cities in England when young families are struggling for affordable housing
the most shocking part of that article is that someone lives alone in a 5 bedroom house in one of the most expensive cities in England when young families are struggling for affordable housing tototoner
  • Score: -25

12:05pm Thu 28 Aug 14

JackJohnson says...

tototoner wrote:
the most shocking part of that article is that someone lives alone in a 5 bedroom house in one of the most expensive cities in England when young families are struggling for affordable housing
This is not the USSR. This is a capitalist democracy where we are are free to choose whether we want to live in a large property, or a small one. The only things that prevent those that would prefer a large one from getting what they want is the size of their bank balance and their earning potential.

Since the advent of contraception we are also free to choose the size of our families.

If you have reached the limit of your family's living space and cannot afford to buy more I recommend a trip to your local chemist, or your local family planning clinic. You might even choose 'the unkindest cut of all'. That's not malicious or offensive. It's just life and living within your means.
[quote][p][bold]tototoner[/bold] wrote: the most shocking part of that article is that someone lives alone in a 5 bedroom house in one of the most expensive cities in England when young families are struggling for affordable housing[/p][/quote]This is not the USSR. This is a capitalist democracy where we are are free to choose whether we want to live in a large property, or a small one. The only things that prevent those that would prefer a large one from getting what they want is the size of their bank balance and their earning potential. Since the advent of contraception we are also free to choose the size of our families. If you have reached the limit of your family's living space and cannot afford to buy more I recommend a trip to your local chemist, or your local family planning clinic. You might even choose 'the unkindest cut of all'. That's not malicious or offensive. It's just life and living within your means. JackJohnson
  • Score: 26

2:02pm Thu 28 Aug 14

tototoner says...

JackJohnson wrote:
tototoner wrote: the most shocking part of that article is that someone lives alone in a 5 bedroom house in one of the most expensive cities in England when young families are struggling for affordable housing
This is not the USSR. This is a capitalist democracy where we are are free to choose whether we want to live in a large property, or a small one. The only things that prevent those that would prefer a large one from getting what they want is the size of their bank balance and their earning potential. Since the advent of contraception we are also free to choose the size of our families. If you have reached the limit of your family's living space and cannot afford to buy more I recommend a trip to your local chemist, or your local family planning clinic. You might even choose 'the unkindest cut of all'. That's not malicious or offensive. It's just life and living within your means.
I've been married for 10 years and have owned a house for longer - in a sleepy village not far from Winchester, I don't have any children and don't want any either and between myself and my wife we earn well over £ 100 k a year yet we only have a 2 bed terrace - which is quite adequate for the 2 of us.

Anyone can choose to live where they like and in what type of property, dream on, probably majority of people reading this article during the day are those retired who made all their money through the 1980's property boom and couldn't care less for those less vulnerable, not that I am surprised with the non-society state that the UK currently promotes.

Young people have no chance of getting on the property market anymore unless born with a sliver spoon in their mouths.
[quote][p][bold]JackJohnson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tototoner[/bold] wrote: the most shocking part of that article is that someone lives alone in a 5 bedroom house in one of the most expensive cities in England when young families are struggling for affordable housing[/p][/quote]This is not the USSR. This is a capitalist democracy where we are are free to choose whether we want to live in a large property, or a small one. The only things that prevent those that would prefer a large one from getting what they want is the size of their bank balance and their earning potential. Since the advent of contraception we are also free to choose the size of our families. If you have reached the limit of your family's living space and cannot afford to buy more I recommend a trip to your local chemist, or your local family planning clinic. You might even choose 'the unkindest cut of all'. That's not malicious or offensive. It's just life and living within your means.[/p][/quote]I've been married for 10 years and have owned a house for longer - in a sleepy village not far from Winchester, I don't have any children and don't want any either and between myself and my wife we earn well over £ 100 k a year yet we only have a 2 bed terrace - which is quite adequate for the 2 of us. Anyone can choose to live where they like and in what type of property, dream on, probably majority of people reading this article during the day are those retired who made all their money through the 1980's property boom and couldn't care less for those less vulnerable, not that I am surprised with the non-society state that the UK currently promotes. Young people have no chance of getting on the property market anymore unless born with a sliver spoon in their mouths. tototoner
  • Score: -1

2:26pm Fri 29 Aug 14

jonone says...

tototoner wrote:
JackJohnson wrote:
tototoner wrote: the most shocking part of that article is that someone lives alone in a 5 bedroom house in one of the most expensive cities in England when young families are struggling for affordable housing
This is not the USSR. This is a capitalist democracy where we are are free to choose whether we want to live in a large property, or a small one. The only things that prevent those that would prefer a large one from getting what they want is the size of their bank balance and their earning potential. Since the advent of contraception we are also free to choose the size of our families. If you have reached the limit of your family's living space and cannot afford to buy more I recommend a trip to your local chemist, or your local family planning clinic. You might even choose 'the unkindest cut of all'. That's not malicious or offensive. It's just life and living within your means.
I've been married for 10 years and have owned a house for longer - in a sleepy village not far from Winchester, I don't have any children and don't want any either and between myself and my wife we earn well over £ 100 k a year yet we only have a 2 bed terrace - which is quite adequate for the 2 of us. Anyone can choose to live where they like and in what type of property, dream on, probably majority of people reading this article during the day are those retired who made all their money through the 1980's property boom and couldn't care less for those less vulnerable, not that I am surprised with the non-society state that the UK currently promotes. Young people have no chance of getting on the property market anymore unless born with a sliver spoon in their mouths.
Who cares about your circumstances - much less the "ooh, look how rich I am" comments you make.

Perhaps the person in the article had a number of children that justified a 5 bed house and has since paid off the mortgage - therefore taking ownership of the property.
[quote][p][bold]tototoner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JackJohnson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tototoner[/bold] wrote: the most shocking part of that article is that someone lives alone in a 5 bedroom house in one of the most expensive cities in England when young families are struggling for affordable housing[/p][/quote]This is not the USSR. This is a capitalist democracy where we are are free to choose whether we want to live in a large property, or a small one. The only things that prevent those that would prefer a large one from getting what they want is the size of their bank balance and their earning potential. Since the advent of contraception we are also free to choose the size of our families. If you have reached the limit of your family's living space and cannot afford to buy more I recommend a trip to your local chemist, or your local family planning clinic. You might even choose 'the unkindest cut of all'. That's not malicious or offensive. It's just life and living within your means.[/p][/quote]I've been married for 10 years and have owned a house for longer - in a sleepy village not far from Winchester, I don't have any children and don't want any either and between myself and my wife we earn well over £ 100 k a year yet we only have a 2 bed terrace - which is quite adequate for the 2 of us. Anyone can choose to live where they like and in what type of property, dream on, probably majority of people reading this article during the day are those retired who made all their money through the 1980's property boom and couldn't care less for those less vulnerable, not that I am surprised with the non-society state that the UK currently promotes. Young people have no chance of getting on the property market anymore unless born with a sliver spoon in their mouths.[/p][/quote]Who cares about your circumstances - much less the "ooh, look how rich I am" comments you make. Perhaps the person in the article had a number of children that justified a 5 bed house and has since paid off the mortgage - therefore taking ownership of the property. jonone
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4:23pm Fri 29 Aug 14

JackJohnson says...

tototoner wrote:
JackJohnson wrote:
tototoner wrote: the most shocking part of that article is that someone lives alone in a 5 bedroom house in one of the most expensive cities in England when young families are struggling for affordable housing
This is not the USSR. This is a capitalist democracy where we are are free to choose whether we want to live in a large property, or a small one. The only things that prevent those that would prefer a large one from getting what they want is the size of their bank balance and their earning potential. Since the advent of contraception we are also free to choose the size of our families. If you have reached the limit of your family's living space and cannot afford to buy more I recommend a trip to your local chemist, or your local family planning clinic. You might even choose 'the unkindest cut of all'. That's not malicious or offensive. It's just life and living within your means.
I've been married for 10 years and have owned a house for longer - in a sleepy village not far from Winchester, I don't have any children and don't want any either and between myself and my wife we earn well over £ 100 k a year yet we only have a 2 bed terrace - which is quite adequate for the 2 of us.

Anyone can choose to live where they like and in what type of property, dream on, probably majority of people reading this article during the day are those retired who made all their money through the 1980's property boom and couldn't care less for those less vulnerable, not that I am surprised with the non-society state that the UK currently promotes.

Young people have no chance of getting on the property market anymore unless born with a sliver spoon in their mouths.
Perhaps if I got of my backside I could upgrade from my 5 bed hovel in the sticks. Just the two of us. No kids. Our choice. And never any silver spoon. If the son of a long-term disabled (and therefore long-term unemployed) coal miner, with just a craft education (no university degrees) can earn it, I don't see the youth of today having much of a problem.

Young people have the same difficulties they had in the 80s. Getting a job when everything the government does appears to obstruct that, getting training or education, getting a deposit together for a mortgage. Believe me, I was there.

I wouldn't advocate making things too easy for anyone. Would we really want to build a weak society where everything is there for the taking? I'd rather live in one where everything is there for the earning.
[quote][p][bold]tototoner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JackJohnson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tototoner[/bold] wrote: the most shocking part of that article is that someone lives alone in a 5 bedroom house in one of the most expensive cities in England when young families are struggling for affordable housing[/p][/quote]This is not the USSR. This is a capitalist democracy where we are are free to choose whether we want to live in a large property, or a small one. The only things that prevent those that would prefer a large one from getting what they want is the size of their bank balance and their earning potential. Since the advent of contraception we are also free to choose the size of our families. If you have reached the limit of your family's living space and cannot afford to buy more I recommend a trip to your local chemist, or your local family planning clinic. You might even choose 'the unkindest cut of all'. That's not malicious or offensive. It's just life and living within your means.[/p][/quote]I've been married for 10 years and have owned a house for longer - in a sleepy village not far from Winchester, I don't have any children and don't want any either and between myself and my wife we earn well over £ 100 k a year yet we only have a 2 bed terrace - which is quite adequate for the 2 of us. Anyone can choose to live where they like and in what type of property, dream on, probably majority of people reading this article during the day are those retired who made all their money through the 1980's property boom and couldn't care less for those less vulnerable, not that I am surprised with the non-society state that the UK currently promotes. Young people have no chance of getting on the property market anymore unless born with a sliver spoon in their mouths.[/p][/quote]Perhaps if I got of my backside I could upgrade from my 5 bed hovel in the sticks. Just the two of us. No kids. Our choice. And never any silver spoon. If the son of a long-term disabled (and therefore long-term unemployed) coal miner, with just a craft education (no university degrees) can earn it, I don't see the youth of today having much of a problem. Young people have the same difficulties they had in the 80s. Getting a job when everything the government does appears to obstruct that, getting training or education, getting a deposit together for a mortgage. Believe me, I was there. I wouldn't advocate making things too easy for anyone. Would we really want to build a weak society where everything is there for the taking? I'd rather live in one where everything is there for the earning. JackJohnson
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